Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 campaign can hardly hit 60fps on PS4 & Xbox

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Black Ops 3’s campaign does not adhere to the golden 60fps rule Call of Duty games have always followed.

Digital Foundry published its analysis of the campaign of Call of Duty: Black Ops 3. In it, the site reveals that the game struggles to reach 60fps most of the time.

Having tested both the PS4 and Xbox One versions of the game, Digital Foundry reveals that for most cut-scenes, Black Ops 3 mostly maintains 1080p quality. For gameplay segments, however, things get much worse.

The Xbox One version targets a resolution of 1600×900 for gameplay, but rarely hits it according to the site – running mostly at 1280×900 in= reality. The PlayStation 4 version fares better with its mostly-active 1080p lock, dropping down to 1360×1080 occasionally.

Frame-rate is a disappointment across the board, especially for a Call of Duty game. Digital Foundry reports that despite dynamic resolutions, Black Ops 3 reaches 60fps only during spots where combat is not a major component.

“On the face of it, the raw metrics we drew from our captures don’t look so bad – PS4 hands in an average frame-rate of 51fps, Xbox One is at 49fps,” the site noted.

“And it’s Xbox One where we see the most extreme scenarios where Treyarch’s precarious balancing act doesn’t really work out. A frantic shoot-out defending a control room is a low point: while PS4 sticks close to 60fps at various moments throughout the battle, Microsoft’s system frequently struggles to rise above the 35-45fps.”

Posted: Nov 12, 2015 1:17 pm
Related Forum: Call of Duty Forum

Source: http://www.vg247.com/2015/11/12/call-of-duty-black-ops-3-campaign-can-hardly-hit-60fps-on-ps4-and-xbox-one-report/

Comments

SakiPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Geekwad
Saki
Geekwad
Saki
Faux25
Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you?
-To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here.

Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance.
-Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution.

when it comes to CPU performance... A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day.
-The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid.

Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. omits an OS.. and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc.
-Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals.

Btw, I'm just gonna leave this here for you, it's based off of BO3 requirements to run off of 60fps 1080p best part is, it's only $399.3 USD, enjoy!
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Quad-Core-Processor-HDX810WFK4FGI/dp/B00DXIU09C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1470-AR/dp/B003EEMFTI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136771
http://www.amazon.com/Mattaxly-EACH-Over-ear-Headphone-Earphone/dp/B00YKF4AQG/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1447412106&sr=1-3&keywords=headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353050&cm_re=computer_case-_-11-353-050-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148051
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412227&sr=8-5&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse
https://www.thetechgame.org/microsoft-windows-8-standard-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582
http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Cat5E-Snagless-Patch/dp/B004NAOK5Y/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412467&sr=8-16&keywords=ethernet+cord

"To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here."

I didn't say everyone who plays PC is ignorant, I said people who follow the PC master race bandwagon are usually ignorant, and my comment was mainly direct toward the person I quoted.

"Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution."

Neither the Xbox One nor the PS4 cost $500 though.

-That's what I paid for mine, when they first launched. $400 for PS4. But whatever price they are at now should be able to get you industry standard otherwise why even release next gen?

"The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid."

My fault, I mean't to say GPU, not CPU. My point still stands.

-Laptops have integrated gpus with the average being 512mb, laptops aren't built for gaming, they are built for facebook, web browsing and other small applications. That's why the general laptop only has 2 core cpus because small applications wouldn't take advantage of the 4 cores and end up losing performance. So no your point has been tripped and is falling down the stairs.

"Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals."

Man you're really reaching here. No, you don't need an Ethernet cable, all current-gen consoles are wireless. The only reason I mentioned an Ethernet cable to begin with was because I said "and anything else you may need", as in extra cables, adapters or any other peripherals. As for gold, no you don't need it but you probably will end up buying it at some point. That does add up over time and in the long run will come in line with the price of a nice custom build so that's definitely something to consider.

-You do have to buy an ethernet cord unless you get a wireless modem/router. I'm not reaching I was just throwing it out there. Most games are primarily focused on having Xbox Live Gold or PS+ so in order to get the full potential out of a gaming console you have to pay for it. Where as with Steam, Origin, or Battle.net (not talking WoW) you won't have to pay for any kind of online service anywhere in the near future.

"You have to buy a TV"

Really? Who doesn't have a TV in their house that doesn't have at least ONE HDMI port to plug into?

-I have 2 PC's and one is connected to my TV, and I use a wireless keyboard and mouse. So you're point about needing a Computer monitor is not necessarily true. Btw, the GPU i listed in my post has an hdmi port so you can use that with your tv.

"controller recharge kit" Nope, batteries work fine. I bought one myself though, it's a sound investment but not a necessity.

-But you have to buy the batteries, or rechargeable batteries with a rechargeable kit. Either way still costs about the same as a recharge kit.

"And headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals"

Nope, both the Xbox One and PS4 come with a microphone with every console, you're reaching again. No, this will not cost the same as PC peripherals, I don't know where you do your shopping but an HD-TV (which again, you shouldn't have to buy -- most people have a TV) alone is more expensive than a mouse and keyboard, speakers and a monitor (unless you get a sizable one and not a generic brand.)

-LOL!!! You think the headset that I posted is crappy? I used that for about 2 years and never had a problem with it! But speaking of crappy how about the uncomfortable Xbox mic YUCK! Plus if you ever want to upgrade to a an actual headset you have to get an attachment for your controller or upgrade to a different "PRO" controller that's priced unreasonably.

I'm not even going to go into detail about that build. You had $400 to work with, so instead of getting a 500GB/1TB hard drive, you get a 250 gig drive and throw in a $10 gaming headset that's a piece of junk. Why? Six gigs of RAM? Both consoles have 8. Then there's that case, eww.

-I wasn't basing the build off of $400 actually. I just went online and made a quick build around the Black Ops 3 Requirements to play at 60fps at 1080p. If you would have read the entire post you would have seen that. That's why I put 6gb of ram in there, and btw here's a cheaper 500gb hard drive just to settle your ruffles. It's also a tad bit cheaper too, so the build actually comes out to be $384 USD. Dang, aren't I a good budgeter? :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178796&cm_re=500_gb_hard_drive-_-22-178-796-_-Product

Man I'm not trying to put you or anyone else down but that build proves my point. You're not going to build a console killer PC for the price of a console. Not unless you get some crazy sales going and cheap out on a case or a PSU (which you really shouldn't be doing anyway).

-Technically it is a console killer if it can beat a console... Have a nice day! :D

Think what you want bud. I'm trying to be civil but you continue to act pretentious and mock me so I'm done here.

SkyPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

well this is just shit isn't it ?

GeekwadPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Saki
Geekwad
Saki
Faux25
Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you?
-To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here.

Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance.
-Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution.

when it comes to CPU performance... A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day.
-The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid.

Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. omits an OS.. and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc.
-Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals.

Btw, I'm just gonna leave this here for you, it's based off of BO3 requirements to run off of 60fps 1080p best part is, it's only $399.3 USD, enjoy!
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Quad-Core-Processor-HDX810WFK4FGI/dp/B00DXIU09C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1470-AR/dp/B003EEMFTI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136771
http://www.amazon.com/Mattaxly-EACH-Over-ear-Headphone-Earphone/dp/B00YKF4AQG/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1447412106&sr=1-3&keywords=headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353050&cm_re=computer_case-_-11-353-050-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148051
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412227&sr=8-5&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse
https://www.thetechgame.org/microsoft-windows-8-standard-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582
http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Cat5E-Snagless-Patch/dp/B004NAOK5Y/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412467&sr=8-16&keywords=ethernet+cord

"To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here."

I didn't say everyone who plays PC is ignorant, I said people who follow the PC master race bandwagon are usually ignorant, and my comment was mainly direct toward the person I quoted.

"Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution."

Neither the Xbox One nor the PS4 cost $500 though.

-That's what I paid for mine, when they first launched. $400 for PS4. But whatever price they are at now should be able to get you industry standard otherwise why even release next gen?

"The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid."

My fault, I mean't to say GPU, not CPU. My point still stands.

-Laptops have integrated gpus with the average being 512mb, laptops aren't built for gaming, they are built for facebook, web browsing and other small applications. That's why the general laptop only has 2 core cpus because small applications wouldn't take advantage of the 4 cores and end up losing performance. So no your point has been tripped and is falling down the stairs.

"Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals."

Man you're really reaching here. No, you don't need an Ethernet cable, all current-gen consoles are wireless. The only reason I mentioned an Ethernet cable to begin with was because I said "and anything else you may need", as in extra cables, adapters or any other peripherals. As for gold, no you don't need it but you probably will end up buying it at some point. That does add up over time and in the long run will come in line with the price of a nice custom build so that's definitely something to consider.

-You do have to buy an ethernet cord unless you get a wireless modem/router. I'm not reaching I was just throwing it out there. Most games are primarily focused on having Xbox Live Gold or PS+ so in order to get the full potential out of a gaming console you have to pay for it. Where as with Steam, Origin, or Battle.net (not talking WoW) you won't have to pay for any kind of online service anywhere in the near future.

"You have to buy a TV"

Really? Who doesn't have a TV in their house that doesn't have at least ONE HDMI port to plug into?

-I have 2 PC's and one is connected to my TV, and I use a wireless keyboard and mouse. So you're point about needing a Computer monitor is not necessarily true. Btw, the GPU i listed in my post has an hdmi port so you can use that with your tv.

"controller recharge kit" Nope, batteries work fine. I bought one myself though, it's a sound investment but not a necessity.

-But you have to buy the batteries, or rechargeable batteries with a rechargeable kit. Either way still costs about the same as a recharge kit.

"And headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals"

Nope, both the Xbox One and PS4 come with a microphone with every console, you're reaching again. No, this will not cost the same as PC peripherals, I don't know where you do your shopping but an HD-TV (which again, you shouldn't have to buy -- most people have a TV) alone is more expensive than a mouse and keyboard, speakers and a monitor (unless you get a sizable one and not a generic brand.)

-LOL!!! You think the headset that I posted is crappy? I used that for about 2 years and never had a problem with it! But speaking of crappy how about the uncomfortable Xbox mic YUCK! Plus if you ever want to upgrade to a an actual headset you have to get an attachment for your controller or upgrade to a different "PRO" controller that's priced unreasonably.

I'm not even going to go into detail about that build. You had $400 to work with, so instead of getting a 500GB/1TB hard drive, you get a 250 gig drive and throw in a $10 gaming headset that's a piece of junk. Why? Six gigs of RAM? Both consoles have 8. Then there's that case, eww.

-I wasn't basing the build off of $400 actually. I just went online and made a quick build around the Black Ops 3 Requirements to play at 60fps at 1080p. If you would have read the entire post you would have seen that. That's why I put 6gb of ram in there, and btw here's a cheaper 500gb hard drive just to settle your ruffles. It's also a tad bit cheaper too, so the build actually comes out to be $384 USD. Dang, aren't I a good budgeter? :D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178796&cm_re=500_gb_hard_drive-_-22-178-796-_-Product

Man I'm not trying to put you or anyone else down but that build proves my point. You're not going to build a console killer PC for the price of a console. Not unless you get some crazy sales going and cheap out on a case or a PSU (which you really shouldn't be doing anyway).

-Technically it is a console killer if it can beat a console... Have a nice day! :D

SakiPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Geekwad
Saki
Faux25
Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you?
-To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here.

Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance.
-Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution.

when it comes to CPU performance... A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day.
-The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid.

Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. omits an OS.. and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc.
-Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals.

Btw, I'm just gonna leave this here for you, it's based off of BO3 requirements to run off of 60fps 1080p best part is, it's only $399.3 USD, enjoy!
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Quad-Core-Processor-HDX810WFK4FGI/dp/B00DXIU09C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1470-AR/dp/B003EEMFTI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136771
http://www.amazon.com/Mattaxly-EACH-Over-ear-Headphone-Earphone/dp/B00YKF4AQG/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1447412106&sr=1-3&keywords=headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353050&cm_re=computer_case-_-11-353-050-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148051
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412227&sr=8-5&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse
https://www.thetechgame.org/microsoft-windows-8-standard-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582
http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Cat5E-Snagless-Patch/dp/B004NAOK5Y/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412467&sr=8-16&keywords=ethernet+cord

"To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here."

I didn't say everyone who plays PC is ignorant, I said people who follow the PC master race bandwagon are usually ignorant, and my comment was mainly direct toward the person I quoted.

"Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution."

Neither the Xbox One nor the PS4 cost $500 though.

"The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid."

My fault, I mean't to say GPU, not CPU. My point still stands.

"Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals."

Man you're really reaching here. No, you don't need an Ethernet cable, all current-gen consoles are wireless. The only reason I mentioned an Ethernet cable to begin with was because I said "and anything else you may need", as in extra cables, adapters or any other peripherals. As for gold, no you don't need it but you probably will end up buying it at some point. That does add up over time and in the long run will come in line with the price of a nice custom build so that's definitely something to consider.

"You have to buy a TV"

Really? Who doesn't have a TV in their house that doesn't have at least ONE HDMI port to plug into?

"controller recharge kit" Nope, batteries work fine. I bought one myself though, it's a sound investment but not a necessity.

"And headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals"

Nope, both the Xbox One and PS4 come with a microphone with every console, you're reaching again. No, this will not cost the same as PC peripherals, I don't know where you do your shopping but an HD-TV (which again, you shouldn't have to buy -- most people have a TV) alone is more expensive than a mouse and keyboard, speakers and a monitor (unless you get a sizable one and not a generic brand.)

I'm not even going to go into detail about that build. You had $400 to work with, so instead of getting a 500GB/1TB hard drive, you get a 250 gig drive and throw in a $10 gaming headset that's a piece of junk. Why? Six gigs of RAM? Both consoles have 8. Then there's that case, eww.

Man I'm not trying to put you or anyone else down but that build proves my point. You're not going to build a console killer PC for the price of a console. Not unless you get some crazy sales going and cheap out on a case or a PSU (which you really shouldn't be doing anyway).

SakiPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

AE86
Saki
Freshwaffle
Saki
Faux25
Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you? Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance. The AMD APUs that are packed into the current-gen consoles are far from "the worst if not one of the worst" when it comes to CPU performance. Why do you think they're so bad? "its an old one". Really? Both the X0 and PS4 run off a custom Jaguar APU (hardly the worst of the worst), and they don't even have dGPUs. A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day. If you're going to boast about how great PC is and how shit consoles are at least know what you're talking about.

Not everyone can afford a nice custom PC that beats out a X0 or PS4, and even fewer know how to build and keep up with a self-built PC. Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. Every time I've seen someone link a build that costs the same as console also omits an OS because "you can just pirate it" and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc. So unless you want to pirate your OS and just so happen to have a mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor and anything else you'll need (WiFi dongle, Ethernet cables etc) lying around, your final product will be a $300+ door stop.

I play both console and PC, but I prefer using my console. Most of my friends are on Xbox, and I've spent about 6 years building my XBL profile. Could I play all my games on PC in a higher resolution than my Xbox w/ 60 FPS? Yeah sure, but I really don't want to. When I play games I just want to kick back and play with my friends on the account I've purchased all my games and DLC on over the years. Sacrificing that to play on Steam with my PC, but in a higher resolution is inane to me. Choosing to be a console gamer, whether because of ease of access, lack of money or confidence to build a PC or any other reason is fine, there's nothing wrong with playing on your Xbox 360/One or PS3/4. Play what you want to play, but don't put people down and call what platform they prefer (or can only afford) to play on shit because they don't play what you play.

tl;dr Don't be a dick and play whatever makes you happy.

You could also get the OS for free from a school, buy a code for $40 on g2a, and even get it installed through a usb drive. Also, it's 2015, just about everyone has a keyboard, mouse and monitor/hdmi compatible tv. You forgot to add a sofa, and a nice tv to the console price total.

My school didn't offer a $100 for free so I'm going to assume you mean uni or you just got lucky. As for G2A, I guess you could get it through that. That's still another $40 you can't spend bringing you to a total of $260 to build a console beating PC. A mouse and keyboard is one thing, but most people don't have monitor sized HD-TVs just lying around. Either they are in use or they're 30+ inches in size and would look ridiculous on a computer desk.

As for the sofa and TV comment, just stop. You NEED a mouse and keyboard to use a PC. You NEED a monitor to output on for a PC to be anymore than a door stop. You can play Xbox without a sofa. You have a bed right? Almost everyone has an old TV lying around, or at least a TV with a spare HDMI hook up to use a console. Most people don't have monitors just lying around and using a huge TV as your output for your PC because "lol console sucks I'll use my tv to prove a point" is asinine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing PC I have a custom rig myself. If you're going to make a point I'd appreciate if you would be professional about it and not mock me for what I said before. KB and mouse to a PC doesn't have the same relation as a sofa does to a console and you know it.

Yea but there's one big whole in your story m8, you can connect a PC to a TV, it has HDMI plug-ins, its not a big deal, and if you are planning to game then it is no problem, just grab your Xbox controller and buy a wireless Xbox Controller PC adapter for it as i did and sit back and play, you're making it more complicated than it needs to be.

I don't know what you're on about because I addressed hooking up a PC to a TV already. Not only that but the adapter is $25 (for the Xbox One controller since that's the only one I have) and for that price you can buy a mouse and keyboard. I don't know what you're trying to get at but nothing I've said is complicated.

AE86Posted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Saki
Freshwaffle
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Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you? Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance. The AMD APUs that are packed into the current-gen consoles are far from "the worst if not one of the worst" when it comes to CPU performance. Why do you think they're so bad? "its an old one". Really? Both the X0 and PS4 run off a custom Jaguar APU (hardly the worst of the worst), and they don't even have dGPUs. A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day. If you're going to boast about how great PC is and how shit consoles are at least know what you're talking about.

Not everyone can afford a nice custom PC that beats out a X0 or PS4, and even fewer know how to build and keep up with a self-built PC. Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. Every time I've seen someone link a build that costs the same as console also omits an OS because "you can just pirate it" and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc. So unless you want to pirate your OS and just so happen to have a mouse, keyboard, speakers, monitor and anything else you'll need (WiFi dongle, Ethernet cables etc) lying around, your final product will be a $300+ door stop.

I play both console and PC, but I prefer using my console. Most of my friends are on Xbox, and I've spent about 6 years building my XBL profile. Could I play all my games on PC in a higher resolution than my Xbox w/ 60 FPS? Yeah sure, but I really don't want to. When I play games I just want to kick back and play with my friends on the account I've purchased all my games and DLC on over the years. Sacrificing that to play on Steam with my PC, but in a higher resolution is inane to me. Choosing to be a console gamer, whether because of ease of access, lack of money or confidence to build a PC or any other reason is fine, there's nothing wrong with playing on your Xbox 360/One or PS3/4. Play what you want to play, but don't put people down and call what platform they prefer (or can only afford) to play on shit because they don't play what you play.

tl;dr Don't be a dick and play whatever makes you happy.

You could also get the OS for free from a school, buy a code for $40 on g2a, and even get it installed through a usb drive. Also, it's 2015, just about everyone has a keyboard, mouse and monitor/hdmi compatible tv. You forgot to add a sofa, and a nice tv to the console price total.

My school didn't offer a $100 for free so I'm going to assume you mean uni or you just got lucky. As for G2A, I guess you could get it through that. That's still another $40 you can't spend bringing you to a total of $260 to build a console beating PC. A mouse and keyboard is one thing, but most people don't have monitor sized HD-TVs just lying around. Either they are in use or they're 30+ inches in size and would look ridiculous on a computer desk.

As for the sofa and TV comment, just stop. You NEED a mouse and keyboard to use a PC. You NEED a monitor to output on for a PC to be anymore than a door stop. You can play Xbox without a sofa. You have a bed right? Almost everyone has an old TV lying around, or at least a TV with a spare HDMI hook up to use a console. Most people don't have monitors just lying around and using a huge TV as your output for your PC because "lol console sucks I'll use my tv to prove a point" is asinine.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing PC I have a custom rig myself. If you're going to make a point I'd appreciate if you would be professional about it and not mock me for what I said before. KB and mouse to a PC doesn't have the same relation as a sofa does to a console and you know it.

Yea but there's one big whole in your story m8, you can connect a PC to a TV, it has HDMI plug-ins, its not a big deal, and if you are planning to game then it is no problem, just grab your Xbox controller and buy a wireless Xbox Controller PC adapter for it as i did and sit back and play, you're making it more complicated than it needs to be.

AE86Posted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Geekwad
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Saki
Faux25
Dan- And this is the problems with consoles. It's 2015 and they can't even manage 60FPS at native 1080p.

want to know why they cant its cause they use amd(suck a bad produce for cpus since they are getting sued for false advertisement) the one and ps4 are using the worst if not one of the worst cpus as its an old one plus their consoles no big deal they should of never been 60fps anyways but yeah its sad that even for a weak game like cod/bf/bf(both battle field and battle front are bf) cant really hit that 60mark unless theirs nothing around.

lol

You PCMR kids really are blinded by your own ignorance aren't you?
-To call out all people who play on PC as ignorant really shows what kind of person you are, and also goes against what you say at the bottom of your post, but we aren't going to get into that here.

Are PCs better than consoles performance wise? Yes. But then again, you're also paying for that extra performance.
-Last I checked, $500 should be able to get you the standard fps and resolution.

when it comes to CPU performance... A similar comparison would be pitting a laptop mGPU against a desktop dGPU, night and day.
-The Jaguar has 8 cores, most laptops only have 2. So, that point is invalid.

Anyone who says they can build a PC from scratch that has everything you need and has equal if not better performance as a current-gen console for the price of an X0/PS4 is lying. omits an OS.. and only includes the mobo, gpu, cpu, hdd, ram, psu and a case. There's no keyboard, no mouse, no monitor, no speakers, no CD/DVD drive etc.
-Ok, but what about Xbox Live? You still need an ethernet cord unless you buy a wireless, and then you still have to buy XBL Gold to play online, and you have to buy a TV, controller recharge kit, and headphones all of which will cost you just about the same as PC peripherals.

Btw, I'm just gonna leave this here for you, it's based off of BO3 requirements to run off of 60fps 1080p best part is, it's only $399.3 USD, enjoy!
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-Phenom-Quad-Core-Processor-HDX810WFK4FGI/dp/B00DXIU09C
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231223
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Graphics-012-P3-1470-AR/dp/B003EEMFTI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136771
http://www.amazon.com/Mattaxly-EACH-Over-ear-Headphone-Earphone/dp/B00YKF4AQG/ref=sr_1_3?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1447412106&sr=1-3&keywords=headset
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353050&cm_re=computer_case-_-11-353-050-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817148051
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Wired-Keyboard-Mouse-Bundle/dp/B00B7GV802/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412227&sr=8-5&keywords=keyboard+and+mouse
https://www.thetechgame.org/microsoft-windows-8-standard-32-64-bit-cd-key-global.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157582
http://www.amazon.com/SF-Cable-Cat5E-Snagless-Patch/dp/B004NAOK5Y/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1447412467&sr=8-16&keywords=ethernet+cord

that build really isnt that great for that price, and why you chose the gtx 470 is beyond me, not even sure if you are being serious tbh, but if anybody does want a good pc build for $400 than can perform better than the new gen consoles, here you go: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rrqdLk

Like I said, this is based off of Black Ops 3 requirements page on Steam. Make sure to read before you post :P

I understand that but why pay the same price for lesser parts, it makes no sense to me m8, if you're gonna give someone a partlist for $400 atleast give them parts worth while

-Robert-Posted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

i dont really like blackops 3 anyway, but the thing is i dont really care about FPS and graphics as much as i do about a game being a good game. if i dont like the game and has amazing FPS and graphics its not im not going make to play it, if i enjoy the game and it has a lowere FPS and not as good graphics i will still play it

ExtaticPosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Well you will need a PC to use the better graphics I suppose

HippieSabotagePosted: Fri. Nov 13, 2015

Really hope it doesn't happen too often

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