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fknvlink wrote Kinect must be connected, and functioning at all times for the system to even turn on and remain active * i hardly see how this is bad considering it comes with the xbox. Kinect is actually good

Because some people may not want kinect and actually not even be able to use Kinect because of the size of there room.

-Back and Forward Buttons missing, Replaced with View and Menu buttons, Home Button removed entirely and replaced by voice commands. *herp derp menu button will be able to take you back to dashboard. different names same basic things. remember black and white buttons?

No it won't that is why it states that "Home Button removed entirely"

-Kinect 2.0 *yer advanced kinect is bad...

Some people may not want kinect.

-Kinect built in at the start (meaning everyone will have a kinect, and MAY have more support) *whats so bad about every one having kinect. its like saying every will have a controller.

It will add to the price a lot.

-Games cannot be taken over to someone else's house and used on their console unless you log in on your account and play your account only. (Co-op permitted as long as the game owner's account is logged in and playing) *log into your account?

It is tied to the console.

-If you let youer friend borrow or buy a game off you, when they put it into their system they will have to pay a "Fee" to be able to play the game. This fee could be as much as the game is new in retail * Lets your friends use your account, also on PC we can't take our games to our friends houses. this is the future of gamming.

But for the use of praticality why should i be retricted in taking games around to my friends house?

-All games have a mandatory install *allows better quality and longer lasting dics drive.

Why should i have to install the game if i don't want to?

-Internal HD cannot be upgraded, standard model is 500GB *you can get an external hard drive.

Not confirmed.

-No backwards compatibility for Xbox, 360 or XBLA games *they are on different OS. Just like mac and windows.

They could have used a cloud storage solution like the PS4

-Internet connection required (Has to sync once every 24hrs, if the system does not sync after the 24hrs are up, it becomes unusable until it has synced. Every game you purchase MUST sync with Microsoft's servers before you're allowed to play) *plug it in for 1 minute (or how ever long it takes) then unplug and play. do same for games. If you don't have internet then you really can't afford the console anyway.

What about if you live in a rural area. or some other unforseen circustance happen where you can't connect to the intenret for example your internet goes down fore the day or you go on holiday.

I have put my counter points inside the quote.

I have read your counter points.....and you have no idea what you are talking about.

1st that is irritating me is you go on about storage.
Microsoft confirmed the USB 3 ports can be used to external drives!!

They do use cloud storage you goon.

Why would you want to install if you didnt want to.
Im sure you just said you had 2TB on your PC, so why wouldnt you.

Please, find the slightest clue of what you are trying to argue.

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Luckza wrote One of the biggest companies bringing out the most advanced home game system thus far and you think they'll hit rock bottom; I think not.

How is it advanced. Bahahah

It is more advanced than their current offering...therefore it is advanced.

Thinking they will fail because of a few minor things mentioned is ridiculous.

But it's not as good as the PS4 that will be there downfall.

How is it not as good???

I fail to see any real merit in your arguement

Less GPU power and not GDDR5 ram. You don't have to connect to the internet every 24 hours with the PS4. You have to use voice commands to go home, really... Can;t take games over to a mates house without paying for the game AGAIN. mandotory install. 500gb HDD can't be ugraded. Can't be used without Kinect. No backwards compatitbilty at all.

So...

Both are 8 Core x86 CPU
Both run AMD
GDDR5 ram is a good thing for the PS4
You dont HAVE to use voice commands
500GB HDD Cant be upgraded I never used more than that anyways, plus you could buy and external USB 3 drive
You dont have to pay for the game again, just log in.
My kinect is always connected anyways, no biggie.
PS4 is not backwards compatible either.

I suggest you go take a look at the Architecture stream that was on to show how the system will actually run.

To top it off my friend:
CPU for XBOX ONE: 1.2 TFLOPS (RUMORED
CPU for PS4: 1.84 TFLOPS
RAM? don't get me started because the RAM on ps4 was supposed to be 4GB DDR3 but then on the conference they changed it and it gave the developers a shock because they didn't know about it so it can change with MS and xbox one as well...

I'm talking about the GPU.

Is that what you're talking about? because to me it seems as if you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Lmao..
He uses a Playstation Universe blog post to argue a point over which console is better. Wow you really are deluded, aren't you?

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Jamy wrote

fknvlink wrote Kinect must be connected, and functioning at all times for the system to even turn on and remain active * i hardly see how this is bad considering it comes with the xbox. Kinect is actually good

Because some people may not want kinect and actually not even be able to use Kinect because of the size of there room.

-Back and Forward Buttons missing, Replaced with View and Menu buttons, Home Button removed entirely and replaced by voice commands. *herp derp menu button will be able to take you back to dashboard. different names same basic things. remember black and white buttons?

No it won't that is why it states that "Home Button removed entirely"

-Kinect 2.0 *yer advanced kinect is bad...

Some people may not want kinect.

-Kinect built in at the start (meaning everyone will have a kinect, and MAY have more support) *whats so bad about every one having kinect. its like saying every will have a controller.

It will add to the price a lot.

-Games cannot be taken over to someone else's house and used on their console unless you log in on your account and play your account only. (Co-op permitted as long as the game owner's account is logged in and playing) *log into your account?

It is tied to the console.

-If you let youer friend borrow or buy a game off you, when they put it into their system they will have to pay a "Fee" to be able to play the game. This fee could be as much as the game is new in retail * Lets your friends use your account, also on PC we can't take our games to our friends houses. this is the future of gamming.

But for the use of praticality why should i be retricted in taking games around to my friends house?

-All games have a mandatory install *allows better quality and longer lasting dics drive.

Why should i have to install the game if i don't want to?

-Internal HD cannot be upgraded, standard model is 500GB *you can get an external hard drive.

Not confirmed.

-No backwards compatibility for Xbox, 360 or XBLA games *they are on different OS. Just like mac and windows.

They could have used a cloud storage solution like the PS4

-Internet connection required (Has to sync once every 24hrs, if the system does not sync after the 24hrs are up, it becomes unusable until it has synced. Every game you purchase MUST sync with Microsoft's servers before you're allowed to play) *plug it in for 1 minute (or how ever long it takes) then unplug and play. do same for games. If you don't have internet then you really can't afford the console anyway.

What about if you live in a rural area. or some other unforseen circustance happen where you can't connect to the intenret for example your internet goes down fore the day or you go on holiday.

I have put my counter points inside the quote.

I have read your counter points.....and you have no idea what you are talking about.

1st that is irritating me is you go on about storage.
Microsoft confirmed the USB 3 ports can be used to external drives!!

Ahh sorry must have missed that.

They do use cloud storage you goon.

Not sure. I knwo they use it for the DVR feature and save games but do they use it for XBLA and normal games?

Why would you want to install if you didnt want to.
Im sure you just said you had 2TB on your PC, so why wouldnt you.

Because i should have the choice. Why would i waste my time with a mandotory installation.

Please, find the slightest clue of what you are trying to argue.

Again i have put it in the quote

Jamy wrote
Because some people may not want kinect and actually not even be able to use Kinect because of the size of there room.

No it won't that is why it states that "Home Button removed entirely"

Some people may not want kinect.

It will add to the price a lot.

It is tied to the console.

But for the use of praticality why should i be retricted in taking games around to my friends house?

Why should i have to install the game if i don't want to?

Not confirmed.

They could have used a cloud storage solution like the PS4


What about if you live in a rural area. or some other unforseen circustance happen where you can't connect to the intenret for example your internet goes down fore the day or you go on holiday.

I have put my counter points inside the quote.[/quote]

for the kinect. it never says you have to use it. it just has to be plugged in.
the menu button will allow you to go to dashboard. it will work like a home button.
don't want it don't use it.
its apart of the console. one could say the gpu adds to the price
no comments. con
why would you take a game to a friends house anyway if you have no intent on using your accounts. it take 2 minutes to use your account.
no comment. con
PS4 must run a similar system to ps3. the xbox 1 is obviously too different from the 360
why would you take your xbox with you on a holiday? con for the rural part or if your internet dies for a while. I think what I have said is fair aswell as some of your points. I still don't see this as a flop. these people hire marketers and engineers so this won't happen. they are not like nintendo

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Luckza wrote One of the biggest companies bringing out the most advanced home game system thus far and you think they'll hit rock bottom; I think not.

How is it advanced. Bahahah

It is more advanced than their current offering...therefore it is advanced.

Thinking they will fail because of a few minor things mentioned is ridiculous.

But it's not as good as the PS4 that will be there downfall.

How is it not as good???

I fail to see any real merit in your arguement

Less GPU power and not GDDR5 ram. You don't have to connect to the internet every 24 hours with the PS4. You have to use voice commands to go home, really... Can;t take games over to a mates house without paying for the game AGAIN. mandotory install. 500gb HDD can't be ugraded. Can't be used without Kinect. No backwards compatitbilty at all.

So...

Both are 8 Core x86 CPU
Both run AMD
GDDR5 ram is a good thing for the PS4
You dont HAVE to use voice commands
500GB HDD Cant be upgraded I never used more than that anyways, plus you could buy and external USB 3 drive
You dont have to pay for the game again, just log in.
My kinect is always connected anyways, no biggie.
PS4 is not backwards compatible either.

I suggest you go take a look at the Architecture stream that was on to show how the system will actually run.

To top it off my friend:
CPU for XBOX ONE: 1.2 TFLOPS (RUMORED
CPU for PS4: 1.84 TFLOPS
RAM? don't get me started because the RAM on ps4 was supposed to be 4GB DDR3 but then on the conference they changed it and it gave the developers a shock because they didn't know about it so it can change with MS and xbox one as well...

I'm talking about the GPU.

Is that what you're talking about? because to me it seems as if you have no idea what you're talking about.

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You are retarded. Even tho it's .6 less tflops it has ddr3 memory which basically balances out with the 1.8tflops. And with the GPU. You might have ddr5 to help out the GPU but the Xbox has 32mb of ES ram which I very small and extremely fast ram which Is dedicated to the GPU. At the end it balances out. If you have no idea what u are talking about stfu

you will still be able to take games round to friends house there will still be preowned stuff
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Jamy wrote

CMYK_ wrote

Jamy wrote

Luckza wrote One of the biggest companies bringing out the most advanced home game system thus far and you think they'll hit rock bottom; I think not.

How is it advanced. Bahahah

It is more advanced than their current offering...therefore it is advanced.

Thinking they will fail because of a few minor things mentioned is ridiculous.

But it's not as good as the PS4 that will be there downfall.

How is it not as good???

I fail to see any real merit in your arguement

Less GPU power and not GDDR5 ram. You don't have to connect to the internet every 24 hours with the PS4. You have to use voice commands to go home, really... Can;t take games over to a mates house without paying for the game AGAIN. mandotory install. 500gb HDD can't be ugraded. Can't be used without Kinect. No backwards compatitbilty at all.

So...

Both are 8 Core x86 CPU
Both run AMD
GDDR5 ram is a good thing for the PS4
You dont HAVE to use voice commands
500GB HDD Cant be upgraded I never used more than that anyways, plus you could buy and external USB 3 drive
You dont have to pay for the game again, just log in.
My kinect is always connected anyways, no biggie.
PS4 is not backwards compatible either.

I suggest you go take a look at the Architecture stream that was on to show how the system will actually run.

To top it off my friend:
CPU for XBOX ONE: 1.2 TFLOPS (RUMORED
CPU for PS4: 1.84 TFLOPS
RAM? don't get me started because the RAM on ps4 was supposed to be 4GB DDR3 but then on the conference they changed it and it gave the developers a shock because they didn't know about it so it can change with MS and xbox one as well...

I'm talking about the GPU.

Is that what you're talking about? because to me it seems as if you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Lmao..
He uses a Playstation Universe blog post to argue a point over which console is better. Wow you really are deluded, aren't you?

There are a lot more websites with the same specs. I never realised it was a PS uni site it was the first site that came up on my search

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There is another

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and anotehr

gowaddict wrote you will still be able to take games round to friends house there will still be preowned stuff
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PAR.
Counter argument at its finest.
Your biggest argument against the XO has been rendered irrelevant.

Jamy wrote

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Jamy wrote

Submit wrote

Jamy wrote

TTG_KoReKz wrote

CMYK_ wrote

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Jamy wrote

CMYK_ wrote

Jamy wrote

CMYK_ wrote

Jamy wrote

Luckza wrote One of the biggest companies bringing out the most advanced home game system thus far and you think they'll hit rock bottom; I think not.

How is it advanced. Bahahah

It is more advanced than their current offering...therefore it is advanced.

Thinking they will fail because of a few minor things mentioned is ridiculous.

But it's not as good as the PS4 that will be there downfall.

How is it not as good???

I fail to see any real merit in your arguement

Less GPU power and not GDDR5 ram. You don't have to connect to the internet every 24 hours with the PS4. You have to use voice commands to go home, really... Can;t take games over to a mates house without paying for the game AGAIN. mandotory install. 500gb HDD can't be ugraded. Can't be used without Kinect. No backwards compatitbilty at all.

So...

Both are 8 Core x86 CPU
Both run AMD
GDDR5 ram is a good thing for the PS4
You dont HAVE to use voice commands
500GB HDD Cant be upgraded I never used more than that anyways, plus you could buy and external USB 3 drive
You dont have to pay for the game again, just log in.
My kinect is always connected anyways, no biggie.
PS4 is not backwards compatible either.

I suggest you go take a look at the Architecture stream that was on to show how the system will actually run.

To top it off my friend:
CPU for XBOX ONE: 1.2 TFLOPS (RUMORED
CPU for PS4: 1.84 TFLOPS
RAM? don't get me started because the RAM on ps4 was supposed to be 4GB DDR3 but then on the conference they changed it and it gave the developers a shock because they didn't know about it so it can change with MS and xbox one as well...

I'm talking about the GPU.

Is that what you're talking about? because to me it seems as if you have no idea what you're talking about.

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Lmao..
He uses a Playstation Universe blog post to argue a point over which console is better. Wow you really are deluded, aren't you?

There are a lot more websites with the same specs. I never realised it was a PS uni site it was the first site that came up on my search

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There is another

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and anotehr

I refuse to argue with you, as we've all proven time and time again that you are in fact an idiot. have fun on your PS4 buddy, we'll all be on the Xbox.

And another thing Xbox has on its side is that it is running windows. When develpers make a game for the PC since it uses windows it can be just put on the Xbox. While on the ps4 it has to get ported which so it goes through an extra transition phase which ultimately results in a reduce of quality. A small reduction but still one that people have complained about for years