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$1 over, if you can handle, SSD for OS and some games

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Xeon>i5, 380 No SSD, Add one ASAP, CPU cooler to keep temps low

You would be fine with either build although an SSD is not need ATM but you'd be better with the build I suggested.

A Xeon would be hella unecessary. Especially for only gaming. The i5 I suggested will be just fine.

No, he would not be better off with the buid you suggested. I would take an SSD over an aftermarket cooler. He can hold off on that. The Xeon isnt MUCH of an improvement over an i5, btw. Dont tell me things I already know, aswell.

He wouldnt even be using the Xeon's HT, unless he was playing GTA 5 on ultra settings.

OP: What is your budget? $1000 or $750?

I was telling OP. Why wouldn't you get the better hardware? lol

Why? Because for his budget, it is unecessary. He isnt doing anything CPU intensive, just gaming. The Xeon would not make much of a difference in gaming over an i5. It is also almost $100 more. I'd take the SSD pl0x.

I disagree.
OP will be fine with either build. Although an SSD is not needed and can be added at another time.

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$1 over, if you can handle, SSD for OS and some games

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Xeon>i5, 380 No SSD, Add one ASAP, CPU cooler to keep temps low

You would be fine with either build although an SSD is not need ATM but you'd be better with the build I suggested.

A Xeon would be hella unecessary. Especially for only gaming. The i5 I suggested will be just fine.

No, he would not be better off with the buid you suggested. I would take an SSD over an aftermarket cooler. He can hold off on that. The Xeon isnt MUCH of an improvement over an i5, btw. Dont tell me things I already know, aswell.

He wouldnt even be using the Xeon's HT, unless he was playing GTA 5 on ultra settings.

OP: What is your budget? $1000 or $750?

I was telling OP. Why wouldn't you get the better hardware? lol

Why? Because for his budget, it is unecessary. He isnt doing anything CPU intensive, just gaming. The Xeon would not make much of a difference in gaming over an i5. It is also almost $100 more. I'd take the SSD pl0x.

I disagree.
OP will be fine with either build. Although an SSD is not needed and can be added at another time.

It would be a better investment than an aftermarket cooler since he isnt overclocking.

Would you rather take 20 mins to install a CPU Cooler later on or have to reinstall your OS and games onto an SSD later on? The SSD is more of a hassle when it comes to installing it later on. A CPU cooler is easier to install later on.

Gotta agree with dink on the SSD > Cooler.

Reinstalling the OS to the new SSD as well as programs, games, etc. is an absolute ballache compared to just mounting a new cooler.

Wouldn't fit into the budget will my build

1995 wrote Wouldn't fit into the budget will my build

Exactly. Because that Xeon is almost $300.

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1995 wrote Wouldn't fit into the budget will my build

Exactly. Because that Xeon is almost $300.

Which is worth it. Xeon>i5. An SSD is not needed so what if it's a hassle. Thats like choosing a 960 over 970.

1995 wrote

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1995 wrote Wouldn't fit into the budget will my build

Exactly. Because that Xeon is almost $300.

Which is worth it. Xeon>i5. An SSD is not needed so what if it's a hassle. Thats like choosing a 960 over 970.

An aftermarket cooler isnt needed. An SSD is almost a necessity at this point. Especially since the CPU wont get very because it wont be overclocked. The stock cooler will do until he can afford one.

It isnt worth it for just gaming. It is nothing like choosing a 960 over a 970. More like 970 to 390. Close performance, good for certain things.

PM me further for any answers. We ruined this guys topic.

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SSD and aftermarket cooler, and XFire support.

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Unlocked and can be easily overclocked with that nice cooler. Still has an SSD and still has XFire support so a 2nd 390 can be added at any point.

Forgot to put the Z170 board in lel, here;
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I like using Xeon's in builds as more games are using more threads to their advantage... But a Xeon has no place in a build of this budget. Saying "Xeon > i5" is stupid. For some applications the different ones are better, but spending a lot more money on one in this build makes no sense. The 1230 is a poor choice compared to a 1245 anyway.

ChangsITSupport wrote I like using Xeon's in builds as more games are using more threads to their advantage... But a Xeon has no place in a build of this budget. Saying "Xeon > i5" is stupid. For some applications the different ones are better, but spending a lot more money on one in this build makes no sense. The 1230 is a poor choice compared to a 1245 anyway.

The 1230 is far from a "poor choice". The 1245 is more expensive for a slightly higher clock speed. It's like the 6600, which is $20 or so more than the 6500, it's typically not worth the premium.

Saying "Xeon>i5" isn't wrong. The Xeon has a higher clock speed and thread count, it'll have better multi-threaded performance, and slightly better single core performance.

Hyperthreading has helped in AAA titles and certain games for a long time, it's not new. DX12 will bring better performance for chips with less cores, so when DX12 comes, hyperthreading should matter even less and chips like i5's will perform better.

TL;DR- HT has always helped, i5's are fine for gaming rigs.