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2016, Democrats riot in protest. 2008, Democrats riot in celebration. Maybe Democrats just really like rioting.

I'm glad that you posted the picture proving the fact that the majority of voters didn't vote for Trump.

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Trump told the election is rigged, Democrats kept saying its not. He won, they have to accept the result.

I don't know how much easier I can phrase this.

They accept that he won the vote.
They don't like that he won the vote.
There is a difference between not liking that he won and not accepting the official result. It really isn't that difficult to understand.

And you think people annoyed that he didn't win the popular vote are just cry babies?
Well it's good to know how you feel about Donald Trump considering that in 2012 he posted a barrage of tweets denouncing the electoral college vote as a 'disaster for democracy' and called for a revolution because the candidate with the popular vote lost? Even though Obama did win both the popular vote and electoral vote in 2012. He even said "We should march on Washington."
So Donald Trump should agree wholeheartedly with the protestors outside his tower.

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By Donald Trump's own logic he should have not accepted the presidency, stepped down, and let Clinton take the white house because she did win the popular vote.
But he's not principled so why would we expect him to do something like that?

Let me guess though... Trumpitty trump trump blah blah blah? Ignore facts, love Trump.

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People don't want to accept the vote and protests have started in places like Portland. And all these people crying that Trump won. Lmao get over yourself.

Oh my goodness. No. People don't want to accept the man. Not the vote.
But even so let's say you're right. They hate that he won by the electoral college and are protesting just about the vote. Let's say that's true.

Donald Trump should agree with them.

-> Donald Trump says he hates the electoral college system.
-> Protesters don't want to accept the vote because he only won by the electoral college
-> Donald Trump should agree with them.

That is as simply as I can put it for you. I am truly sorry for you if you can't understand that.

It's funny to see how people are switching up the narrative. People are not protesting Trump's policies. If this was the case, all this rioting would have been done all through the primaries, and when he won the nomination officially, while he was advocating his agenda. Yes, I'm aware there were isolated incidents of protesting during the primaries, but practically irrelevant compared to what's going on now. All these people are protesting that Trump won and they are refusing to accept the outcome of the election, even trending the hashtag "#NotMyPresident". Google searches of "how to impeach Trump" are surging...

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Feel free to watch the video in the link above, where you'll hear protesters saying "F--- Trump" and "Not my President". Yeah, totally "accepting the vote".

It makes for a good defense to claim they're protesting his policy, but no. That's not at all what's happening. People are upset and can't handle the fact that Trump won democratically.

I'm all for people's right to protest, but it's completely hypocritical to whine about the election results when you (as in protesters, not yourself) called out Trump for not accepting them if he lost. Many of these protesters more than likely didn't bother to vote in primaries or the general election itself. Hillary had an embarrassingly low turnout. People simply didn't care enough to bother showing up to the polls. If only these protesters were as adamant about voting for Hillary than they are at posting.

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Continuous wrote Obviously the majority of people wanted trump to be president other wise they would not vote to elect him.

Not only did Donald lose the popular vote, but so did senate Republicans.
The majority didn't want Trump to be President.

I guess that I could have worded that better. The better way to put it, is that Trump won the majority of states. Trump won most of the states with less population where as Killary won the states with high populations. Killary did not care about the small states because they had a small population and that is why Trump won, he went after the smaller states. There is a reason that we an electoral college. If there was not an electoral college, then it would be unfair. For example take California for example, there state would have a lot more impact than a state like Delaware. Each state should have around the same amount of voting power as each others. That would mean somebody would have to literally win over the votes of the country. Instead of doing what Killary did and just go for the places where she knew that there would be a lot of people and just try to get a lot of votes from them and ignore other states that she thought was not important.

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Unless you live under a rock, you'll be fully aware that the United States have elected Donald Trump to be their 45th President come January.

The news, as expected, isn't what everyone was hoping for and as a result a series of demonstrations across the nation have broken out. Check out the 'Spoiler' sections below to find out where, and what has happened!

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New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Oakland, Seattle, Portland and Washington DC have all seen large demonstrations over the last 24 hours with 'Not My President' being the slogan.

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As a result of the protests, security has been increased outside of all Trump buildings, including his home and even the White House.

The NYPD have been especially quick to react, bringing in large concrete barriers and heavily armed Officers outside of Trump's New York Tower.

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2016, Democrats riot in protest. 2008, Democrats riot in celebration. Maybe Democrats just really like rioting.

I'm glad that you posted the picture proving the fact that the majority of voters didn't vote for Trump.

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Trump told the election is rigged, Democrats kept saying its not. He won, they have to accept the result.

I don't know how much easier I can phrase this.

They accept that he won the vote.
They don't like that he won the vote.
There is a difference between not liking that he won and not accepting the official result. It really isn't that difficult to understand.

And you think people annoyed that he didn't win the popular vote are just cry babies?
Well it's good to know how you feel about Donald Trump considering that in 2012 he posted a barrage of tweets denouncing the electoral college vote as a 'disaster for democracy' and called for a revolution because the candidate with the popular vote lost? Even though Obama did win both the popular vote and electoral vote in 2012. He even said "We should march on Washington."
So Donald Trump should agree wholeheartedly with the protestors outside his tower.

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By Donald Trump's own logic he should have not accepted the presidency, stepped down, and let Clinton take the white house because she did win the popular vote.
But he's not principled so why would we expect him to do something like that?

Let me guess though... Trumpitty trump trump blah blah blah? Ignore facts, love Trump.

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People don't want to accept the vote and protests have started in places like Portland. And all these people crying that Trump won. Lmao get over yourself.

Oh my goodness. No. People don't want to accept the man. Not the vote.
But even so let's say you're right. They hate that he won by the electoral college and are protesting just about the vote. Let's say that's true.

Donald Trump should agree with them.

-> Donald Trump says he hates the electoral college system.
-> Protesters don't want to accept the vote because he only won by the electoral college
-> Donald Trump should agree with them.

That is as simply as I can put it for you. I am truly sorry for you if you can't understand that.

It's funny to see how people are switching up the narrative. People are not protesting Trump's policies. If this was the case, all this rioting would have been done all through the primaries, and when he won the nomination officially, while he was advocating his agenda. Yes, I'm aware there were isolated incidents of protesting during the primaries, but practically irrelevant compared to what's going on now. All these people are protesting that Trump won and they are refusing to accept the outcome of the election, even trending the hashtag "#NotMyPresident". Google searches of "how to impeach Trump" are surging...

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Feel free to watch the video in the link above, where you'll hear protesters saying "F--- Trump" and "Not my President". Yeah, totally "accepting the vote".

It makes for a good defense to claim they're protesting his policy, but no. That's not at all what's happening. People are upset and can't handle the fact that Trump won democratically.

I'm all for people's right to protest, but it's completely hypocritical to whine about the election results when you (as in protesters, not yourself) called out Trump for not accepting them if he lost. Many of these protesters more than likely didn't bother to vote in primaries or the general election itself. Hillary had an embarrassingly low turnout. People simply didn't care enough to bother showing up to the polls. If only these protesters were as adamant about voting for Hillary than they are at posting.

So why are the protesters holding signs which call him a racist bigoted homophobe instead of signs which say, "the election was rigged" or "the electoral vote should be abolished" ?

When asked why he was protesting, 20-year-old Alex Hariri said, "Trump does not support anyone in the community I know. I'm a gay Middle Eastern man. He's against everything I am."

"I can't support someone who supports so much bigotry and hatred. It's heart-breaking," said Joe Daniels, 25, of suburban Alexandria, Virginia.

"I wanted to show the rest of the world that not everyone in this country supports a fascist," said local Audrey Lava.

Because they are protesting against the man. Not the official voting process.

This is like when ISIS published a magazine laying out their reasons for committing terrorist attacks.
"We hate how unislamic you people are, the Quran orders us to" and then people said, "Mmmmm no. You're doing this because you are economically depressed. Religion doesn't motivate you."

They are literally telling us why they are protesting.

And like I said, even if they were protesting the electoral college voting system Trump should agree with them.

The term, "Not my president" doesn't automatically mean that they think he was undemocratically elected.
If you watch interviews with these protesters none of them, even when given the chance to, bring up anything about the actual vote.


Republicans frame the US through a lens of patriotism. Standing for the national anthem, supporting the veterans, flying the flag proudly, and accepting the outcome of a democratic election.
Liberals don't hold as much respect for patriotism. They would rather circumvent those things in protest of what they disagree with.

So Republicans can watch these protests and think, "What a bunch of cry baby morons who don't understand how our system works." Or they can listen to what they are actually saying and try to debate with them on the issues that they are bringing up.

You accused me of switching up the narrative, but I have provided plenty of evidence that these protesters are protesting because they hate Donald Trump and his policy positions. None of them - or a very small minority of them - are talking about the electoral college, none of them are talking about him not winning the popular vote.

These people are ridiculous. They obviously don't do their research. They probably just watch the main stream media. And now people are trying to say Trump made racism worse? Bullshit. Obama is the one that has caused tensions to rise between skin colors. BTW, I'm mainly responding to the protestors, not you.

Veidt wrote So why are the protesters holding signs which call him a racist bigoted homophobe instead of signs which say, "the election was rigged" or "the electoral vote should be abolished" ?

....Because they are refusing to accept the results of this election. When Trump says it's rigged against a candidate that actually did rig an election, people go crazy claiming he's being bitter but then they turn around claiming it's rigged after the election just because Trump won. It could not be more clear that these people are protesting because hey aren't accepting the results.

When asked why he was protesting, 20-year-old Alex Hariri said, "Trump does not support anyone in the community I know. I'm a gay Middle Eastern man. He's against everything I am."

Pulling out one man's quote (I know you can find more) isn't doing anything when you have #NotMyPresident trending in the US with hundreds of thousands of tweets, or have (as provided in the link) a video of thousands of protesters saying "not my president".

The term, "Not my president" doesn't automatically mean that they think he was undemocratically elected.
If you watch interviews with these protesters none of them, even when given the chance to, bring up anything about the actual vote.

To be clear, I'm not arguing about a rigged democracy at all (meaning I don't think Trump rigged this election). I'm saying It doesn't matter the reason of why these protesters are saying "Not my President", but they are, and it means one thing only: They aren't accepting the results of this election.

It doesn't matter if their reasons are because they believe this election was rigged, or because he's "racist"...they aren't accepting that the guy won. Also, it's a huge stretch to say "Not my President" means anything else than not accepting the election results, so I don't understand what's left to argue about if we disagree about semantics.

Liberals don't hold as much respect for patriotism. They would rather circumvent those things in protest of what they disagree with.

So Republicans can watch these protests and think, "What a bunch of cry baby morons who don't understand how our system works." Or they can listen to what they are actually saying and try to debate with them on the issues that they are bringing up.

You accused me of switching up the narrative, but I have provided plenty of evidence that these protesters are protesting because they hate Donald Trump and his policy positions. None of them - or a very small minority of them - are talking about the electoral college, none of them are talking about him not winning the popular vote.

First of all, I never accused you personally, but the evidence you provided is singled out interviews that you're trying to apply to all protesters while not addressing the fact that people are saying "F--- Trump", trending "NotMyPresident", and claiming the election was rigged after the guy won whilst calling him crazy for mentioning it prior.

As a note, why would any Republican want to work with people that are (at times, violently rioting) refusing to acknowledge that Trump actually won?

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Veidt wrote So why are the protesters holding signs which call him a racist bigoted homophobe instead of signs which say, "the election was rigged" or "the electoral vote should be abolished" ?

....Because they are refusing to accept the results of this election. When Trump says it's rigged against a candidate that actually did rig an election, people go crazy claiming he's being bitter but then they turn around claiming it's rigged after the election just because Trump won. It could not be more clear that these people are protesting because hey aren't accepting the results.

When asked why he was protesting, 20-year-old Alex Hariri said, "Trump does not support anyone in the community I know. I'm a gay Middle Eastern man. He's against everything I am."

Pulling out one man's quote (I know you can find more) isn't doing anything when you have #NotMyPresident trending in the US with hundreds of thousands of tweets, or have (as provided in the link) a video of thousands of protesters saying "not my president".

The term, "Not my president" doesn't automatically mean that they think he was undemocratically elected.
If you watch interviews with these protesters none of them, even when given the chance to, bring up anything about the actual vote.

To be clear, I'm not arguing about a rigged democracy at all (meaning I don't think Trump rigged this election). I'm saying It doesn't matter the reason of why these protesters are saying "Not my President", but they are, and it means one thing only: They aren't accepting the results of this election.

It doesn't matter if their reasons are because they believe this election was rigged, or because he's "racist"...they aren't accepting that the guy won. Also, it's a huge stretch to say "Not my President" means anything else than not accepting the election results, so I don't understand what's left to argue about if we disagree about semantics.

Liberals don't hold as much respect for patriotism. They would rather circumvent those things in protest of what they disagree with.

So Republicans can watch these protests and think, "What a bunch of cry baby morons who don't understand how our system works." Or they can listen to what they are actually saying and try to debate with them on the issues that they are bringing up.

You accused me of switching up the narrative, but I have provided plenty of evidence that these protesters are protesting because they hate Donald Trump and his policy positions. None of them - or a very small minority of them - are talking about the electoral college, none of them are talking about him not winning the popular vote.

First of all, I never accused you personally, but the evidence you provided is singled out interviews that you're trying to apply to all protesters while not addressing the fact that people are saying "F--- Trump", trending "NotMyPresident", and claiming the election was rigged after the guy won whilst calling him crazy for mentioning it prior.

As a note, why would any Republican want to work with people that are (at times, violently rioting) refusing to acknowledge that Trump actually won?

I have to agree with you there. This is obviously just down to semantics that we aren't going to agree on.
I do reject the claim that I didn't address the "NotMyPresident" thing. I addressed it but I didn't convince you, and I wasn't applying those quotes and beliefs to all of the protesters. I couldn't find any talking about the vote being rigged or him not winning the popular vote and I've been watching and reading stuff about this since I posted my previous response, but I know they must exist which is why I hedged my bets and said, "None of them - or a very small minority of them..." just in case you did manage to find those people.

As a note, why would any Republican want to work with people that are (at times, violently rioting) refusing to acknowledge that Trump actually won?

I understand that Trump supporters are being assaulted at these protests which is why I wouldn't expect them to walk up to a wall of protesters and strike up a debate.
The people commenting on these protests online don't have that to worry about though.

Perhaps it's because I think that changing people's minds is a valuable thing and the only way to do that is by talking to them or through violence.
If I were a Trump supporter I would not stop talking about why I don't think he's racist, why I think building a wall will work, why I think extreme vetting of Muslims is a good thing, etc.
I wouldn't just stop that now that the election is over.

-ToastinYou wrote These people are ridiculous. They obviously don't do their research. They probably just watch the main stream media. And now people are trying to say Trump made racism worse? Bullshit. Obama is the one that has caused tensions to rise between skin colors. BTW, I'm mainly responding to the protestors, not you.

I think that the main factor in rising racial tension in the US is down to the SJW crowd who think it's OK for a black person on twitter to say, "All white people should die" but not OK for Milo Yiannopoulos to criticize a black actress and that he should be banned from twitter because of it.
They point to the police, Donald Trump, the republican party in general and think "Racists" while posting something like "Black people can't be racist because racism comes from power."

The only thing that Obama has done to encourage this movement's growth is by refusing to say the words "Islamic Extremism" which I think is insane. It's just stating a fact.

So I don't know what else Obama has done to divide the country along racial lines. Feel free to enlighten me.

I would cut out the parts I'm responding to you about, and I hate to give excuses, but I don't have the energy as I'm ill and on my phone. But in responding to your part responding to me about the racial tensions. Anyways, just to give one example.. Obama hardly ever, if ever, responds to murders of police. While he has politicized acts of violence against the war on African Americans has caused the war on police. More white people are shot by police than black people - why don't you ever see white people shootings by cops on the news? Because its a hate crime or whatever you want to call it supposedly if you are a cop and shoot a black person to protect yourself from whatever they're holding or reaching for or when they're running at you. So it isn't a hate crime if a black cop shoots a white person? of coarse not as Obama has made us view it that way as that's the way he views it. Sorry f this is jumbled and there's misspellings .

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-ToastinYou wrote More white people are shot by police than black people

.....because there is more white people than black people.

Once you make up for population difference, black people are 2.5 times more likely to be shot by police than white people.

if i was in america i would shoot all the protesters with an m9 and m16