Dotted wrote No no no, we need to ask him why he got banned from /r/politics first

I accidentally called someone a shill.

Lavish wrote Forgive me for being annoying, but i'm banned from /r/politics until October 11th and the current political discussion sticky is dead, so how about some normal political discourse.

Lucritius wrote I am voting for Donald trump. This country is in need of a financial overhaul, and who better to do that than an entrepreneur? We need more people like him in politics and less actual politicians

Can I ask why you think a financial overhaul is needed? The amount of people applying for unemployment is at a 40-year low.

It's not about how many people file for unemployment, it's about how many people are below the poverty level

I'm not voting at all, as I don't need my name being put into any sort of voter registration list, jury duty or god forbid being put into some draft (don't know if you guys still do that, and I doubt a draft will even be put through in the next 20 years or so.) Holding dual citizenship's with Russia and America, working on a getting a third citizenship with the Czech Republic; it would be my best interest to not have my name being added to all these pointless things. Plus I believe I can't even vote holding a birth citizenship that is an enemy to you guys or at the least I can't vote without having something going wrong between the two.

As for what party I would be if I were going to/allowed to vote, I would probably lean more towards Republican, but easily sit on the fence between Republican and Democratic. I don't believe in what the Democrats want to do with firearms and I don't believe the Republican side of being pro-life. I lean more on the side of Republican and believe in capital punishment for extensive crimes. Yet I side more with Democrats when it comes to social programs that need government funding such as helping the families who need government benefits like welfare and food stamps. Everything else, I literally don't care for. College, health care, trade, ect, don't matter to me, let alone affect me as I have the money to get what I need done.

If I were forced to vote, it would be Trump and the only 2 reasons being, would be protection of firearms and because I would rather have a loud mouth who doesn't care what he says, doesn't care who he offends, over someone who doesn't know when to stop lying and who is apparently at the corner stone of corruption.

Lavish wrote Forgive me for being annoying, but i'm banned from /r/politics until October 11th and the current political discussion sticky is dead, so how about some normal political discourse.

Lucritius wrote I am voting for Donald trump. This country is in need of a financial overhaul, and who better to do that than an entrepreneur? We need more people like him in politics and less actual politicians

Can I ask why you think a financial overhaul is needed? The amount of people applying for unemployment is at a 40-year low.

Unemployment has to do with the job market, it really does not reflect upon the country's financial status. What does is the rising debt we occur. In 2014 we were $18 trillion in debt. At the beginning of the year, we were estimated to be at $19.3 trillion in debt at the end of the year. We are currently at almost $19.7 trillion in debt. This number though does not reflect state / local debt, agency debt, or unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs (social security, medicare, etc). If you include federal, state, and local debt, we are up to $22.4 trillion in debt. This is thanks to funding projects that can't happen, such as taking away our gun rights. There is a lot of wasteful spending in the government with very little of that spending actually making them any money back.

We need a financial backing, and so far every president knows how to spend money, but none of them have been able to spend money and recoup more than they spent on a program.

TaigaAisaka wrote I'm not voting at all, as I don't need my name being put into any sort of voter registration list, jury duty or god forbid being put into some draft (don't know if you guys still do that, and I doubt a draft will even be put through in the next 20 years or so.) Holding dual citizenship's with Russia and America, working on a getting a third citizenship with the Czech Republic; it would be my best interest to not have my name being added to all these pointless things. Plus I believe I can't even vote holding a birth citizenship that is an enemy to you guys or at the least I can't vote without having something going wrong between the two.

As for what party I would be if I were going to/allowed to vote, I would probably lean more towards Republican, but easily sit on the fence between Republican and Democratic. I don't believe in what the Democrats want to do with firearms and I don't believe the Republican side of being pro-life. I lean more on the side of Republican and believe in capital punishment for extensive crimes. Yet I side more with Democrats when it comes to social programs that need government funding such as helping the families who need government benefits like welfare and food stamps. Everything else, I literally don't care for. College, health care, trade, ect, don't matter to me, let alone affect me as I have the money to get what I need done.

If I were forced to vote, it would be Trump and the only 2 reasons being, would be protection of firearms and because I would rather have a loud mouth who doesn't care what he says, doesn't care who he offends, over someone who doesn't know when to stop lying and who is apparently at the corner stone of corruption.

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inb4: "Trump's taxes"
inb4: "Trump said this years ago and is saying this now"

I literally don't care, there is honestly a lot more floating around Hillary regarding lying and corruption

But you're all ready in the draft and on a jury duty list when you're 18.

I don't live in the US but if I did, I'd vote for Trump any day of the week.

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Lavish wrote Forgive me for being annoying, but i'm banned from /r/politics until October 11th and the current political discussion sticky is dead, so how about some normal political discourse.

Lucritius wrote I am voting for Donald trump. This country is in need of a financial overhaul, and who better to do that than an entrepreneur? We need more people like him in politics and less actual politicians

Can I ask why you think a financial overhaul is needed? The amount of people applying for unemployment is at a 40-year low.

Unemployment has to do with the job market, it really does not reflect upon the country's financial status. What does is the rising debt we occur. In 2014 we were $18 trillion in debt. At the beginning of the year, we were estimated to be at $19.3 trillion in debt at the end of the year. We are currently at almost $19.7 trillion in debt. This number though does not reflect state / local debt, agency debt, or unfunded liabilities of entitlement programs (social security, medicare, etc). If you include federal, state, and local debt, we are up to $22.4 trillion in debt. This is thanks to funding projects that can't happen, such as taking away our gun rights. There is a lot of wasteful spending in the government with very little of that spending actually making them any money back.

We need a financial backing, and so far every president knows how to spend money, but none of them have been able to spend money and recoup more than they spent on a program.

This. This couldn't be said any better. We do need a president who knows how to manage money not spend it. I do think trump is the person for that not Hillary. Trump is more of a businessman than a politician, which this time around is a good thing.

Yeah id rather have Clinton as president cause she wont **** up relations to other countries as much as Trump will

iOSx wrote I am voting for Donald trump. This country is in need of a financial overhaul, and who better to do that than an entrepreneur? We need more people like him in politics and less actual politicians

Donald Trump said that he was going to, "Eliminate the national debt over a period of 8 years."
The national debt in the US at the moment is $19 trillion. The annual budget for the federal Government in the US is around $3.8 trillion, but we'll round it up to $4 trillion for the sake of simplicity.

That means that he would have to spend over $2 trillion of the annual budget every year for 8 years to pay off holders of the debt.
This demonstrates not only a lack of financial knowledge on his part, it demonstrates a lack of knowledge, period.

When presidents say they are going to "Balance the budget" they aren't talking about eliminating the national debt. They are talking about eliminating the annual deficit.
Obama actually inherited a $1.4 trillion annual deficit and he has cut that to around $480 billion which is a big step in the right direction.
The national debt is needed to keep the economy going because public debt is equal to private surplus because whatever the Government doesn't take back in taxes the private sector gains in financial assets.

The US national debt isn't even that bad. If you look at it in terms of percentage of GDP the debt in the US today is 104%. To put that into perspective, Japan's is 229% and Italy's is 132%.
These countries aren't in the middle of having a debt crisis so there isn't anything to worry about with the national debt in the US.

If he were to take $2 trillion out of the annual budget then there would be a depression worse than the Great Depression.
Or he would have to get rid of the entire military, or all social spending and anti-poverty programmes. It's just not something that any country which has a national debt can do or would need to do.

Voting for Donald Trump because of his financial savvy when it comes to the political landscape is like buying a McDonalds for its health benefits.

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TaigaAisaka wrote I'm not voting at all, as I don't need my name being put into any sort of voter registration list, jury duty or god forbid being put into some draft (don't know if you guys still do that, and I doubt a draft will even be put through in the next 20 years or so.) Holding dual citizenship's with Russia and America, working on a getting a third citizenship with the Czech Republic; it would be my best interest to not have my name being added to all these pointless things. Plus I believe I can't even vote holding a birth citizenship that is an enemy to you guys or at the least I can't vote without having something going wrong between the two.

As for what party I would be if I were going to/allowed to vote, I would probably lean more towards Republican, but easily sit on the fence between Republican and Democratic. I don't believe in what the Democrats want to do with firearms and I don't believe the Republican side of being pro-life. I lean more on the side of Republican and believe in capital punishment for extensive crimes. Yet I side more with Democrats when it comes to social programs that need government funding such as helping the families who need government benefits like welfare and food stamps. Everything else, I literally don't care for. College, health care, trade, ect, don't matter to me, let alone affect me as I have the money to get what I need done.

If I were forced to vote, it would be Trump and the only 2 reasons being, would be protection of firearms and because I would rather have a loud mouth who doesn't care what he says, doesn't care who he offends, over someone who doesn't know when to stop lying and who is apparently at the corner stone of corruption.

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inb4: "Trump's taxes"
inb4: "Trump said this years ago and is saying this now"

I literally don't care, there is honestly a lot more floating around Hillary regarding lying and corruption

But you're all ready in the draft and on a jury duty list when you're 18.

Listed for a draft through that Selective Service System bullshit? I never signed up for it and I won't do so. I don't need any benefits such as federal loans or college benefits that would require me to do so and I renewed my license back in May no problem. I already have my passports which won't have to be renewed for another 7 years, so I'll worry about it at that time, but I doubt I'll even still be here within in that time.

As for jury duty, I was assuming it was pulled from a voter registration list; either way, I don't want to be on any voter registration list or a draft. If I'm on a jury list, so be it, haven't been called for jury since turning 18 so more than likely won't be happening anytime soon.