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InfinityWardrobe wrote
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Jinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.

This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?


Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God



You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe

1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?

2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?

What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?

No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.

I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.


You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.

The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.


Ah, I see what this argument is doing.

Cherry picking the meaning of 'God'.

So you would agree that God must be murderous, cruel, unforgiving, torturous and genocidal?

These are all aspects of humanity, by your logic, God must fulfill these in order to exist.

The meaning of God doesn't say that it must exist. A fictional character can be omnipotent without entering reality.

In Marvel, there is a super hero called The One Above All.
This super hero is equal in description to that of the Judeo Christian God.
Does this mean that he must exist?
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StoopidMonkie0 wrote
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Higuain wrote What a load of ****.

You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.

It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Evolution makes no since. Were did the first cell come from? How are there so many plants and animals since cross mating won't work? How were we made?


Evolution is a theory that's accepted by most science organazings and schools. Just because you are not educated on the subjuct doesn't mean it makes no sense. If you really want to know the answers to these questions simply google them.

I personally couldn't answer these questions because I dropped biology for pre-cal last year.


Really did you just suggest googling the answers to the creation of the universe...
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read what i posted back on page 2!
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InfinityWardrobe wrote
Higuain wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.

This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?


Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God



You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe

1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?

2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?

What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?

No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.

I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.


You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.

The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.


"so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject."

I'm an atheist, and we believe the **** opposite. GOD IS NOT THE PERFECT BEING WHICH YOU STATE, YOU'RE MAKING ME SLAM MY HEAD INTO MY KEYBOARD. HUGUHGUHGUFDWFQUIHVUIC\S-0RT34I0GIFJIEDWQJIJIFEHT3UI9J8ID


hahaha. If you hadn't tried a tomato before you wouldnt be able to know if you liked it or not. Without knowing the definition of God, and by definition, god is the all powerful being of omnipotence and perfection, you wouldnt be able to judge your opinion. So by knowing what God is, you still openly oppose it which is fine im just saying you need to accept that what you dont believe in is an omnipotent being of ultimate perfection. that you cannot deny.



Wait so.. if i don't believe in something then it's true?

So if i don't believe that it was right for The Nazis to kill millions of people, that makes it right?

You disgust me you "livebythebible" boy.
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Higuain wrote What a load of ****.

You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.

It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.



Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.

You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
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Higuain wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Higuain wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.

This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?


Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God



You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe

1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?

2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?

What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?

No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.

I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.


You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.

The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.


"so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject."

I'm an atheist, and we believe the **** opposite. GOD IS NOT THE PERFECT BEING WHICH YOU STATE, YOU'RE MAKING ME SLAM MY HEAD INTO MY KEYBOARD. HUGUHGUHGUFDWFQUIHVUIC\S-0RT34I0GIFJIEDWQJIJIFEHT3UI9J8ID


hahaha. If you hadn't tried a tomato before you wouldnt be able to know if you liked it or not. Without knowing the definition of God, and by definition, god is the all powerful being of omnipotence and perfection, you wouldnt be able to judge your opinion. So by knowing what God is, you still openly oppose it which is fine im just saying you need to accept that what you dont believe in is an omnipotent being of ultimate perfection. that you cannot deny.



Wait so.. if i don't believe in something then it's true?

So if i don't believe that it was right for The Nazis to kill millions of people, that makes it right?

You disgust me you "livebythebible" boy.


Are you going to be able to see behind your big headedness. I didnt say any of that at all did I ? Also how about you read what i said in my second post. Im not a Christian i just believe in a creator. The bible is a load of misconstrued shite which is closely related to your head at the moment. Im not doing anything wrong just stating my opinion and yet i disgust you? Its people like you that are the main reason for religious wars, a belief so strong they refuse to accept other people having different ones. If you dont have anything actually valuable to say then just piss off you cretin
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InfinityWardrobe wrote
StoopidMonkie0 wrote
Cellcom wrote
Higuain wrote What a load of ****.

You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.

It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Evolution makes no since. Were did the first cell come from? How are there so many plants and animals since cross mating won't work? How were we made?


Evolution is a theory that's accepted by most science organazings and schools. Just because you are not educated on the subjuct doesn't mean it makes no sense. If you really want to know the answers to these questions simply google them.

I personally couldn't answer these questions because I dropped biology for pre-cal last year.


Really did you just suggest googling the answers to the creation of the universe...


Yup, I sure did. And heres what I found from a quick google search.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Oh look at that an entire website about evolution from Berkeley College. Plenty of resources and they even have a teaching center. Have fun.
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Higuain wrote
HAXINATOR_HD wrote
Higuain wrote What a load of ****.

You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.

It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
You sir are the idiot, if evolution is the answer, what created something for evoution? You were going to say, the big bang theory created everything. But what created the big bang? Something had to create something to create the big bang. There was NOTHING, no gases, molecules, or anything, what could have "sparked" (sparking requires energy and gases which there was none of) the big bang? God. How did god get here? No one but him knows. Something had to create something that would create another thing which later on would cause evolution in the primorial ooze to being evolution. Let me guess, you believe that everything was just here and nothing created it? Impossible. If your gonna ask about that last statement, refer to what I said at the beginning and read it again.



Read my post and tell me where i mention the big bang.

You're just looking for something to pick at. Mind **** off? i didn't say a word about the big bang.
well sir, i for one dont have to **** off, i have a right to free speech, and yea, what created evolution? what created what to create evolution, what created the world so that evolution could occur, what created the space that the world is in with the gasses and molecules, what created anything? You believe this was all just "Bam!" were here! . NO. God was here to create everything in 6 days. What created god? No one knows but him.
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StoopidMonkie0 wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
StoopidMonkie0 wrote
Cellcom wrote
Higuain wrote What a load of ****.

You're using rhetorical questions to seem like you're correct.

It is CLEAR that evolution is the answer, if you think otherwise, Sure, go for it, But you're an idiot.
Evolution makes no since. Were did the first cell come from? How are there so many plants and animals since cross mating won't work? How were we made?


Evolution is a theory that's accepted by most science organazings and schools. Just because you are not educated on the subjuct doesn't mean it makes no sense. If you really want to know the answers to these questions simply google them.

I personally couldn't answer these questions because I dropped biology for pre-cal last year.


Really did you just suggest googling the answers to the creation of the universe...


Yup, I sure did. And heres what I found from a quick google search.

[ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

Oh look at that an entire website about evolution from Berkeley College. Plenty of resources and they even have a teaching center. Have fun.


You still suggested i look up the greatest question known to mankind on the interent where opinions of other people like Higuain are so strong its hard to see the difference between legitimate and piles of shite
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InfinityWardrobe wrote
Higuain wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Higuain wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote
InfinityWardrobe wrote
Jinx wrote Super Mario is also in my mind.

This is one of the most incoherent arguments for Gods existence I have ever read, or it's late and i'm not understanding what you're insinuating.

Please correct me if i'm wrong, but are you stating that because something exists within your mind it exists within reality?


Super Mario need not be the greatest thing in existence so it doesnt need to hold the quality of existence. By God being the Greatest idea of the universe it must hold the quality of Existence. There are more powerful things than Mario but not more powerful things than God



You also agree that to exist is better than not existing. Because God is all powerful and in order to claim the "title" of the creator of the universe

1) How does me believing that existing is better than not existing make God all powerful?

2) How does something being the greatest thing imaginable make it exist? or hold the quality of existence?

What if I were to make the greatest car ever up in my head and because it is the greatest car ever does that mean that it holds the quality of existence?

No. That makes it a fictional thing that has no place in reality.

I'm either not understanding this argument or my mind has finally been blown.


You have slightly misunderstood the argument at hand.

The greatest car in the world. If it were to appear in your head then sure it can stay as a thought of your head but God needs to fulfil all parts of life in order to be the creator so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject. If he was perfect he would need to have every quality or attribute of life itself and one of those is existence. If God did not exist he wouldn't not be perfect and then there would therefore be a more perfect being with a higher stature than God that did exist and possessed all the qualities of everyone and thing. In order to be "God" you must be idyllic and by being a part of existence you are holding one of the potentially infinite amounts of traits a being can have.


"so if you are an atheist you know that God is the all powerful PERFECT being which you so reject."

I'm an atheist, and we believe the **** opposite. GOD IS NOT THE PERFECT BEING WHICH YOU STATE, YOU'RE MAKING ME SLAM MY HEAD INTO MY KEYBOARD. HUGUHGUHGUFDWFQUIHVUIC\S-0RT34I0GIFJIEDWQJIJIFEHT3UI9J8ID


hahaha. If you hadn't tried a tomato before you wouldnt be able to know if you liked it or not. Without knowing the definition of God, and by definition, god is the all powerful being of omnipotence and perfection, you wouldnt be able to judge your opinion. So by knowing what God is, you still openly oppose it which is fine im just saying you need to accept that what you dont believe in is an omnipotent being of ultimate perfection. that you cannot deny.



Wait so.. if i don't believe in something then it's true?

So if i don't believe that it was right for The Nazis to kill millions of people, that makes it right?

You disgust me you "livebythebible" boy.


Are you going to be able to see behind your big headedness. I didnt say any of that at all did I ? Also how about you read what i said in my second post. Im not a Christian i just believe in a creator. The bible is a load of misconstrued shite which is closely related to your head at the moment. Im not doing anything wrong just stating my opinion and yet i disgust you? Its people like you that are the main reason for religious wars, a belief so strong they refuse to accept other people having different ones. If you dont have anything actually valuable to say then just piss off you cretin


Cretin? You believe in a magical fairy pixie who can zap thin air and make gravy instantly.

You're the Cretin, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT YOU HAVE NO REASON FOR EXISTENCE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO IN LIFE, YOU ARE NOT NEEDED, YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT, THEREFORE YOU RANT ABOUT YOUR DUMB **** BULLSHIT OPINION

My Belief ^^^^^^^^

Anyways, i'm sick of arguing with an idiotic useless piece of dirt, goodbye.
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