PS4 memory and ALU are considerably faster than Xbox One, dev claims

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PlayStation 4′s memory reading and ALU is noticeably faster than Xbox One, developer sources have claimed.

The claims come from this Edge article. The site claims that developers have painted the difference between both consoles as “significant” and “obvious.”

Edge’s sources are reported to have said that the PS4 memory reads between 40-50% faster than Xbox One, and Sony’s Arithmetic Logic Unit (ALU) is around 50% faster than Microsoft’s. The example given by the site stated that a “platform-agnostic development build can run at around 30FPS in 1920×1080 on PS4, but it’ll run at “20-something” FPS in 1600×900 on Xbox One”.

One source also said that, “Xbox One is weaker and it’s a pain to use its ESRAM.” Microsoft recently said that it had upped the console’s clock speed, but another developer told the site, “the clock speed update is not significant, it does not change things that much. Of course, something is better than nothing.”

Apparently, both Sony and Microsoft have not finalised each console’s form, and that both companies are working on new graphics drivers for each respective system. Microsoft is being slow in the matter, one source suggested and added, “that has been hurting them.” Another source called the Xbox One graphic drivers, “horrible.” Drivers are said to improve right up to launch however.

It’s not all doom and gloom in the Microsoft camp however, as one source stated, “Let’s say you are using procedural generation or raytracing via parametric surfaces – that is, using a lot of memory writes and not much texturing or ALU – Xbox One will be likely be faster.”

What do you make of the above? Let us know below.

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Source: http://www.vg247.com/2013/09/13/ps4-memory-and-alu-are-considerably-faster-than-xbox-one-developers-claim/

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DNaDeePosted:

Pashtun
DlCE
Pashtun
DlCE
Katsumi
JPEG Bulls*it, they are both equal in specs.


They are not both equal in specifications, one console is bound to be better than the other, as they are using different hardware components


I can assure you that there not equal but there won't be a 10%-50% performance difference. These people act like ms dosent know what they are doing. Trust me neither company would allow any noticeable difference. They arnt stupid, it's these "developers" that most of the time no one knew about try to side with one console hoping to get a deal if they convince enough people. Only trust post from actual employees of either company as they will not lie as that is false adevertisment. Unless the use an indirect term such as side by side comparison
Oh really? Do you think people will believe some guy named DICE that says "Micorsoft Supporter" in their avatar? LOL just shut up.

Multiple devs already said that the PS4 is 40%-50% more powerful. Like the Gears of War dev, anonymous E3 devs, war thunder dev, and these devs.

You are so biased... Just because I support ms dosent mean I'm lying. Plus it's impossible for the ps4 to be 50% more powerful when it's cu's are 6.6% slower, and it's ram bandwidth is only 172 gbs while the xbox one on paper is 276 gbs. Neither one is 50% stronger, nor 30%. Ms would not let that happen. Neither would sony now grow up fanboy
You must have failed math or something. PS4's cu are 6.6% slower (which is miniscule amount) but the PS4 has 18 cu while xbox has 12.
Think of it like this. (these numbers are random and have no units)
1000 for each cu. xbox has 12 so 12,000 overall. PS4 has 900 for each. PS4 has 18 cu's so 16200. PS4 wins since it has more cu's. The PS4 is also has 1.84 TFLOPS while Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS. This is the GPU which is crucial.

And as for ram. The PS4 has GDDR5 5500 mhz while the Xbone has DDR3 2133mhz. The bandwith you stated is the 32mb ram which is 204gb/s plus the slow DDR3 68gb/s equals what you said, 276. But there is a catch. The ESram is only 32 mb. Which is too little to take on the PS4's ram. The PS4's CPU is an estimate the Xbones CPU is not faster. In fact the PS4 has a max clock of 2.75 ghz for its CPU while xbox has 1.75 ghz.

BTW I am not a fan boy I own an Xbox 360 and im getting a PS4. I bet you feel so stupid don't you?

'Nuff said. I'm out.


Oooh kill em

Career ended

TehHamburgerPosted:

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Pashtun
DlCE
Pashtun
DlCE
Katsumi
JPEG Bulls*it, they are both equal in specs.


They are not both equal in specifications, one console is bound to be better than the other, as they are using different hardware components


I can assure you that there not equal but there won't be a 10%-50% performance difference. These people act like ms dosent know what they are doing. Trust me neither company would allow any noticeable difference. They arnt stupid, it's these "developers" that most of the time no one knew about try to side with one console hoping to get a deal if they convince enough people. Only trust post from actual employees of either company as they will not lie as that is false adevertisment. Unless the use an indirect term such as side by side comparison
Oh really? Do you think people will believe some guy named DICE that says "Micorsoft Supporter" in their avatar? LOL just shut up.

Multiple devs already said that the PS4 is 40%-50% more powerful. Like the Gears of War dev, anonymous E3 devs, war thunder dev, and these devs.

You are so biased... Just because I support ms dosent mean I'm lying. Plus it's impossible for the ps4 to be 50% more powerful when it's cu's are 6.6% slower, and it's ram bandwidth is only 172 gbs while the xbox one on paper is 276 gbs. Neither one is 50% stronger, nor 30%. Ms would not let that happen. Neither would sony now grow up fanboy
You must have failed math or something. PS4's cu are 6.6% slower (which is miniscule amount) but the PS4 has 18 cu while xbox has 12.
Think of it like this. (these numbers are random and have no units)
1000 for each cu. xbox has 12 so 12,000 overall. PS4 has 900 for each. PS4 has 18 cu's so 16200. PS4 wins since it has more cu's. The PS4 is also has 1.84 TFLOPS while Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS. This is the GPU which is crucial.

And as for ram. The PS4 has GDDR5 5500 mhz while the Xbone has DDR3 2133mhz. The bandwith you stated is the 32mb ram which is 204gb/s plus the slow DDR3 68gb/s equals what you said, 276. But there is a catch. The ESram is only 32 mb. Which is too little to take on the PS4's ram. The PS4's CPU is an estimate the Xbones CPU is not faster. In fact the PS4 has a max clock of 2.75 ghz for its CPU while xbox has 1.75 ghz.

BTW I am not a fan boy I own an Xbox 360 and im getting a PS4. I bet you feel so stupid don't you?

'Nuff said. I'm out.


Wow, it goes from a console fight, to you being a fan boy?


PS4 does not clock in at 2.75GHZ sorry to say that, someone lied to you. Next 1.8 - 1.3 tflops seems like alot but to burst your bubble, no major noticeable difference. next The cu's for the xbox one arnt overal 6.6% FASTER, each ONE is 6.6% faster. That closes that gap. Next the ps4 can't clock in at 2.75 ghz or it will have serious overheating problems. The ps4 will run at 1.6ghz which was the same as the xbox one untill it was increased to 1.75ghz. The ps4 Dev kits could "MAX" out 2.75 ghz, but can not preform well under that kind of pressure, like i said earlier due to heat issues. Also most amd jaguars run at 1.6-1.9ghz. Next gddr5 maybe newer and faster, but ultimately its up to the dev how that is used. (Ps4 devs will have 4.5 GB to work with with 1 GB flexible(Devs do not like flexbile)) (Xbox one gives 5gb to devs) DDR3 is currently a dev favorite. (just being honest) Next to assist with graphical performance xbox one has Dirext X 11.2(or 1) which games like battlefield always optimize. Trust me the gap between consoles is so low, you can only notice it in exclusive games. even then still not a major difference. and just because you own a 360 does not make you a Non fanboy. Your still slandering me by saying - "Did you fail math or something", that to me when discussing this topic is being a fanboy. Both consoles have Ups and downs, but its user preference. But these devs rumoring hardware preformance are just hyping the console. I hope you understand this.

FPS_TomiPosted:

I don't care which one is faster but i still hate PlayStation controller design it's the same than on PS1 dualshock

I think i'm going to use my Xbox 360 for those 3 years that microsoft will support after Xbox One gets released then i might get Xbox One

DV8Posted:

Pashtun
DlCE
Pashtun
DlCE
Katsumi
JPEG Bulls*it, they are both equal in specs.


They are not both equal in specifications, one console is bound to be better than the other, as they are using different hardware components


I can assure you that there not equal but there won't be a 10%-50% performance difference. These people act like ms dosent know what they are doing. Trust me neither company would allow any noticeable difference. They arnt stupid, it's these "developers" that most of the time no one knew about try to side with one console hoping to get a deal if they convince enough people. Only trust post from actual employees of either company as they will not lie as that is false adevertisment. Unless the use an indirect term such as side by side comparison
Oh really? Do you think people will believe some guy named DICE that says "Micorsoft Supporter" in their avatar? LOL just shut up.

Multiple devs already said that the PS4 is 40%-50% more powerful. Like the Gears of War dev, anonymous E3 devs, war thunder dev, and these devs.

You are so biased... Just because I support ms dosent mean I'm lying. Plus it's impossible for the ps4 to be 50% more powerful when it's cu's are 6.6% slower, and it's ram bandwidth is only 172 gbs while the xbox one on paper is 276 gbs. Neither one is 50% stronger, nor 30%. Ms would not let that happen. Neither would sony now grow up fanboy
You must have failed math or something. PS4's cu are 6.6% slower (which is miniscule amount) but the PS4 has 18 cu while xbox has 12.
Think of it like this. (these numbers are random and have no units)
1000 for each cu. xbox has 12 so 12,000 overall. PS4 has 900 for each. PS4 has 18 cu's so 16200. PS4 wins since it has more cu's. The PS4 is also has 1.84 TFLOPS while Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS. This is the GPU which is crucial.

And as for ram. The PS4 has GDDR5 5500 mhz while the Xbone has DDR3 2133mhz. The bandwith you stated is the 32mb ram which is 204gb/s plus the slow DDR3 68gb/s equals what you said, 276. But there is a catch. The ESram is only 32 mb. Which is too little to take on the PS4's ram. The PS4's CPU is an estimate the Xbones CPU is not faster. In fact the PS4 has a max clock of 2.75 ghz for its CPU while xbox has 1.75 ghz.

BTW I am not a fan boy I own an Xbox 360 and im getting a PS4. I bet you feel so stupid don't you?

'Nuff said. I'm out.


Wow, it goes from a console fight, to you being a fan boy?

Bathsalt_BaboonPosted:

Pashtun
DlCE
Pashtun
DlCE
Katsumi
JPEG Bulls*it, they are both equal in specs.


They are not both equal in specifications, one console is bound to be better than the other, as they are using different hardware components


I can assure you that there not equal but there won't be a 10%-50% performance difference. These people act like ms dosent know what they are doing. Trust me neither company would allow any noticeable difference. They arnt stupid, it's these "developers" that most of the time no one knew about try to side with one console hoping to get a deal if they convince enough people. Only trust post from actual employees of either company as they will not lie as that is false adevertisment. Unless the use an indirect term such as side by side comparison
Oh really? Do you think people will believe some guy named DICE that says "Micorsoft Supporter" in their avatar? LOL just shut up.

Multiple devs already said that the PS4 is 40%-50% more powerful. Like the Gears of War dev, anonymous E3 devs, war thunder dev, and these devs.

You are so biased... Just because I support ms dosent mean I'm lying. Plus it's impossible for the ps4 to be 50% more powerful when it's cu's are 6.6% slower, and it's ram bandwidth is only 172 gbs while the xbox one on paper is 276 gbs. Neither one is 50% stronger, nor 30%. Ms would not let that happen. Neither would sony now grow up fanboy
You must have failed math or something. PS4's cu are 6.6% slower (which is miniscule amount) but the PS4 has 18 cu while xbox has 12.
Think of it like this. (these numbers are random and have no units)
1000 for each cu. xbox has 12 so 12,000 overall. PS4 has 900 for each. PS4 has 18 cu's so 16200. PS4 wins since it has more cu's. The PS4 is also has 1.84 TFLOPS while Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS. This is the GPU which is crucial.

And as for ram. The PS4 has GDDR5 5500 mhz while the Xbone has DDR3 2133mhz. The bandwith you stated is the 32mb ram which is 204gb/s plus the slow DDR3 68gb/s equals what you said, 276. But there is a catch. The ESram is only 32 mb. Which is too little to take on the PS4's ram. The PS4's CPU is an estimate the Xbones CPU is not faster. In fact the PS4 has a max clock of 2.75 ghz for its CPU while xbox has 1.75 ghz.

BTW I am not a fan boy I own an Xbox 360 and im getting a PS4. I bet you feel so stupid don't you?

'Nuff said. I'm out.


Gott'em in the bottom,woo you killed him!

PashtunPosted:

DlCE
Pashtun
DlCE
Katsumi
JPEG Bulls*it, they are both equal in specs.


They are not both equal in specifications, one console is bound to be better than the other, as they are using different hardware components


I can assure you that there not equal but there won't be a 10%-50% performance difference. These people act like ms dosent know what they are doing. Trust me neither company would allow any noticeable difference. They arnt stupid, it's these "developers" that most of the time no one knew about try to side with one console hoping to get a deal if they convince enough people. Only trust post from actual employees of either company as they will not lie as that is false adevertisment. Unless the use an indirect term such as side by side comparison
Oh really? Do you think people will believe some guy named DICE that says "Micorsoft Supporter" in their avatar? LOL just shut up.

Multiple devs already said that the PS4 is 40%-50% more powerful. Like the Gears of War dev, anonymous E3 devs, war thunder dev, and these devs.

You are so biased... Just because I support ms dosent mean I'm lying. Plus it's impossible for the ps4 to be 50% more powerful when it's cu's are 6.6% slower, and it's ram bandwidth is only 172 gbs while the xbox one on paper is 276 gbs. Neither one is 50% stronger, nor 30%. Ms would not let that happen. Neither would sony now grow up fanboy
You must have failed math or something. PS4's cu are 6.6% slower (which is miniscule amount) but the PS4 has 18 cu while xbox has 12.
Think of it like this. (these numbers are random and have no units)
1000 for each cu. xbox has 12 so 12,000 overall. PS4 has 900 for each. PS4 has 18 cu's so 16200. PS4 wins since it has more cu's. The PS4 is also has 1.84 TFLOPS while Xbone has 1.31 TFLOPS. This is the GPU which is crucial.

And as for ram. The PS4 has GDDR5 5500 mhz while the Xbone has DDR3 2133mhz. The bandwith you stated is the 32mb ram which is 204gb/s plus the slow DDR3 68gb/s equals what you said, 276. But there is a catch. The ESram is only 32 mb. Which is too little to take on the PS4's ram. The PS4's CPU is an estimate the Xbones CPU is not faster. In fact the PS4 has a max clock of 2.75 ghz for its CPU while xbox has 1.75 ghz.

BTW I am not a fan boy I own an Xbox 360 and im getting a PS4. I bet you feel so stupid don't you?

'Nuff said. I'm out.

ImpossibilityPosted:

Sony is trying to get ahead then

neboPosted:

Daw Why does this even matter ? It doesn't make much of a difference.


I mean... memory speed is pretty important to me...

ItIsSethPosted:

I'm a dev and the PS4 boils water faster! I know cause I'm a developer! You have to believe me

AlbericiPosted:

Daw Why does this even matter ? It doesn't make much of a difference.


wasnt you the one who was bragging abut Xbox being better had no proof now ps4 is saying its better???