Xbox 720 will have movie quality graphics. Is that a good thing?

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In a recent interview AMD director of ISV relationships, Neal Robison, hinted that the next gen Xbox (Xbox 720) would have graphics like Avatar, and very advanced physics and AI capabilities. He mentioned that in a game like Grand Theft Auto, every character in a crowd could have their own mentality and individual response to a situation. Impressive indeed. PC's of today, eat your hearts out.

But at what cost?

Estimates put the cost of Avatar at about $280–310 million to produce (with an estimated $150 million for marketing on top). Compare that to the predictions by M2 Research back in 2009, when they predicted the average 7th gen game development cost was $10 million for one platform and $18-$28 million for multiple platforms. That puts the cost of Avatar at more than 10x the cost of your average multiplatform title.

My point is that quality doesn't come cheap... and it is more than using more powerful hardware. AI with every character in a crowd having a unique personality and response it great. But someone needs to code it. Someone needs to debug it so that people don't bump into each other or run in circles. That takes time. That takes money. The more complexity you add, the more time and money it will take. Who has that kind of time and money? Activision does. EA too.

Halo 5, Modern Warfare 4 and Battlefield 4 with be out of this world, no doubt. But what about the rest? Where will the little guys be left? In the cut-throat world of gaming, who will be able to front 200+ million to develop a single game? One failed title could sink most game developers. So what happens to them? Will we have a few huge titles that look and sell great... and everyone else sinks? Will developers save costs by producing shorter games? Will game retail costs go up? Or will game engines like Unreal 5/Frostbite 7.0/Cryengine 4 make developing Avatar-like games a piece of cake?

Maybe my examples are a little too extreme compared to what will eventually become reality, but my point is that with time, games will technically get better in just about every way (graphics, AI, physics), but it will come at a cost. Next gen we can expect shorter games, more expensive retail prices, fewer independent developers, and less titles that deviate from past formulas of success (translation: I hope you like Call of duty/Halo).

With the success of a game as simple as Angry Birds, we should reflect on what makes a great game, and if we really need, or want what the next gen Xbox has to offer. How do you think the next gen game offerings will pan out? Will games be bigger/better/cheaper or will the gaming nation collapse under it's development weight?

Your opinions are always welcome.

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EradicationXPosted:

Dear God. For the 5th time. IT'S NOT CALLED THE XBOX 720. ffs.

ShifePosted:

If you think about it though, that "new" technology will become obsolete at a rapid pace. There will always be better technology than what comes out right now. It's like me buying a new alienware laptop for $3000. A few months later, I can buy that SAME laptop on ebay for probably $1000. Technology always updates and there will always be a better hardware.

CosherBoyPosted:

I'm thinking that the next gen will be able to maintain game length and price at the cost of more places to charge for playing games. These include tactics such as the "nickle and dime" technique that Microsoft uses on xbox live subscribers. If console users had to pay just $1 or $2 a month to play their console, a developer could earn big, especially if that was charged per game.

reed1234500Posted:

ZBrush "PC's of today, eat your hearts out" Ehhh no,
The Xbox may have avatar graphics when we get it in 2014 but it cant be upgraded, also PC's of today are already near this mark.

I still dont see the silver lining though, Buying a console is basically buying a PC with locked specs and no third party content.


100% Agree, built my new rig yesterday :D

Jordan355Posted:

TheBlackCops
TTG-JasonV Its Realy great that they would do this but I know im not the only one worrying about the price of this thing?

You definitely aren't... I imagine seeing 500+ for a decent sized hard drive...
I'm not paying more than 500, gaming is a decent part of my life, but that's a lot of money to put into something I don't play more than an hour a day of.


You say gaming is a decent part of your life, but you only play it less than 1 hour? okay...

kevinaw21892Posted:

I don't really like this idea. Just my opinion but I think it is going to make the gaming industry just horrible. People will play this and its just not going to be the same. It wont even feel like your playing a game. For example look at NFS Most Wanted and how they made the video clip graphics. They tried to make them look to good and it didn't work out. Movie graphics and games just don't work out together.

nmballPosted:

The cost will definitely be an issue here, but another thing I would worry about is how hard it will make the consoles run to display these graphics. I am worried that adding powerful graphics will reduce the lifetime of the xbox's, which are already low(most 360 owners have gotten at least 1 repair, and some even 2 or 3).

iiR4nD0MxSc0p3ZPosted:

TTG-JasonV Its Realy great that they would do this but I know im not the only one worrying about the price of this thing?


Yea im with you the cost of this will be insane. If the cost of making the system and making the games is that great they are going to eventually have to jack up game prices regardless. All the game companies want is to get ahead of the competition and if microsoft does push the 720 out before sony puts out their next-gen gaming system sony can just start packing up now and go home.


SAY NO TO THE RROD!!!!!!!!

ZBrushPosted:

"PC's of today, eat your hearts out" Ehhh no,
The Xbox may have avatar graphics when we get it in 2014 but it cant be upgraded, also PC's of today are already near this mark.

I still dont see the silver lining though, Buying a console is basically buying a PC with locked specs and no third party content.

The-RoachPosted:

Well my opinion is that this is just another way for big name companies to eat up little up and coming ones, because not only could they not develop enough to compete but only big companies could make games and the market would almost be that of a monopol,being they set the price for everything. Also if I have to pay 500 for a consoul then
80+ for a game then I will find a different way to pass the time, or I will be buying only game I know I will like cod,halo,gta, or just games made by certain companies.