AdviceMultiple Camera Streaming & Bannerlord Game PC
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Okay so looking to spend around £1000. But fairly flexible to whatever is good value. Don't need anything bar the PC tower with Windows. Not going to overclock. I'm not going to build it myself, so some money will go there.

The PC is partly for gaming, I suspect Bannerlord or possibly Cyberpunk 2077 will be the most onerous game (I mostly play strategy/RPG) - I'd want them to run smoothly but nothing flash, stable 60FPS moderate detail is fine. The big unknown is streaming with multiple cameras. I don't stream video gaming, just Scrabble. The most onerous streaming comes from tournaments where people are physically playing on a board - so there's an overhead camera, two rack cameras, then ideally 1-2 side shot cameras. And something like Skype for remote commentary. Cameras are nothing special, just regular HD basically.

My fairly crap PC [AMD A8-7600 Radeon R7, 8GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti] bottlenecks on the third camera, as well as lagging pretty badly. It's very difficult to figure out what I'd need because almost everyone is streaming FPS type games with one camera so it's comparing apples and oranges with what I do.
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If anyone just has more general advice on purely what they'd look to get for a gaming in that sort of price range that'd be a great help as well. I realise the multiple camera thing is something people don't tend to have experience of.
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I can't imagine you'd need to spend anywhere close to a grand for a system capable of what you need to be honest. At least not the streaming. Gaming will be far more demanding than your streaming I expect.

So a system for 1080p60Hz with a £1k budget, I'd do this;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£158.63 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£104.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory (£92.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB OC Video Card (£219.99 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.98 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Currys PC World Business)
Total: £826.53

If you were going to spend any more than this, I'd put the money towards a better monitor before anything else to be honest.
Not sure how much storage you require, so if you need more than 1TB add a 7200RPM HDD in whatever capacity you need/want.

If you really want to spend a grand, you can add 16GB RAM, a nice aftermarket cooler and get an RTX 2060 instead of the 1660 Super;
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£158.63 @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£104.97 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£143.03 @ SmartTeck.co.uk)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB MINI ITX OC Video Card (£301.48 @ Box Limited)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case (£63.99 @ Box Limited)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£69.98 @ Currys PC World Business)
Total: £1007.06
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Thanks for the reply. I'm honestly not too bothered about graphics, latency with monitors and all that - I grew up with a Spectrum 48k from an early age. Bannerlord is a pretty skewed game because it's moderately demanding in general, apart from CPU. Basically you can have 1000 (or more with mods) characters fighting it out with bows, swords etc. so very CPU intensive and that is the limiting factor for how many are fighting in one battle. The game claims to be well optimised for lots of CPU cores.

I understand that for instance 12 cores v 6 cores isn't going to double the performance - not even close. How would people compare something like AMD RYZEN 9 3900X 3.8Ghz 12 core to a similar specced 6 or 8 core CPU? This is something I find difficult to find any tangible data for comparisons.
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