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Okay I'm wanting to use this for VR and gaming/modding.

Mainly worried about graphics. But wanting to keep this build as cheap as possible.


CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Processor
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3200MHz
HDD: Crucial BX500 240GB SSD
PSU: Corsair CX Series 450 Watt
Motherboard: MSI ProSeries AMD Ryzen 1st and 2ND Gen AM4 M.2 USB 3 DDR4 D-Sub DVI HDMI Micro-ATX Motherboard (B450M PRO-M2 Max)


Anything I should change or opinions on how you think this would run? Shooting for mainly graphics and VR. Again this will be my first build. Is there anything else I will need? Besides chassis.

Thanks in advance!<3
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Speaking from someone with a vr headset you truly don't want to cheap out. Lower refresh rates and stutters can seriously mess with you. And if you have full body tracking, you've got even more issues to deal with.

Something a lot of people don't understand is yes you can run VR games on some low end machines, but the chances of getting sick get extremely high. Especially on your first dive and you experience a stutter it can really throw you. Even more so do you want the extra horse power in a GPU for anti aliasing because VR games are HORRIBLE for jagged lines and edges. Which most people can ignore or never notice on a normal monitor but in VR it's an extremely harsh thing you constantly notice.

Final note in, if this PC is for modding and gaming you really need to consider your storage. 240GB would cover GTA V, World of Warcraft, ESO, and that is about it. When you're building a PC you really need to factor not what is you WANT to do NOW, but LATER. And it's easier to burn money for the now and only the now and end up screwing yourself where you could have saved by going another 20 here or there.

Low End VR($767.57)
Mid Range VR Build ($1375.15)
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Scratched wroteSpeaking from someone with a vr headset you truly don't want to cheap out. Lower refresh rates and stutters can seriously mess with you. And if you have full body tracking, you've got even more issues to deal with.

Something a lot of people don't understand is yes you can run VR games on some low end machines, but the chances of getting sick get extremely high. Especially on your first dive and you experience a stutter it can really throw you. Even more so do you want the extra horse power in a GPU for anti aliasing because VR games are HORRIBLE for jagged lines and edges. Which most people can ignore or never notice on a normal monitor but in VR it's an extremely harsh thing you constantly notice.

Final note in, if this PC is for modding and gaming you really need to consider your storage. 240GB would cover GTA V, World of Warcraft, ESO, and that is about it. When you're building a PC you really need to factor not what is you WANT to do NOW, but LATER. And it's easier to burn money for the now and only the now and end up screwing yourself where you could have saved by going another 20 here or there.

Low End VR($767.57)
Mid Range VR Build ($1375.15)


Thank you for the response honestly liking that mid range build. And will probably go with that.
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Okay, first of all, you definitely don't need to spend $1400 to play VR.

Secondly, your original system is around $600USD, right? So, that's a pretty substantial jump to go to a $1400 build? If you're able to spend $1400, then I would definitely spend more than the $600 you initially intended. However, if $600 is all you've got, it's all you've got.


What you were originally looking at is a pretty good start. I'd swap the motherboard since you can get better options in the same price range, but it might be worth looking at something in the $100 range, like an MSI B450 Tomahawk, it's a solid mobo and would let you upgrade to an R7 3800x with no problems. You'd even get away with a 3900x, and maybe a 3950x if you really wanted.

I'd also be getting a larger SSD, 240-256GB variant's almost aren't even worth it these days IMHO. 480-512GB SSD's are the minimum I'd be aiming for, but honestly 960-1TB SSD's are <$100 these days which is pretty nuts, plus Black Friday is coming up(gonna be watching 1TB SSD's myself on the BF sales probably).

Lastly, I'd at least swap the GTX 1660 for a GTX 1660 Super, similar price but the Super upgrades to GDDR6 VRAM over GDDR5 on the non Super, and the GDDR5 VRAM really bottlenecks the vanilla 1660- which is why it was always recommended IMO to overclock memory on vanilla GTX 1660's. That said, I'd personally be looking at something more substantial than any of the GTX 1660 variants. An RX 5700 would be a really solid option IMO since you can find decent ones for $350/360 easily. RX 5700XT's are also good options at $410ish, really just up to you if you wanna spend the extra $50 at that point.
Obviously, even the 5700(non XT) is a tier above the 1660's, in both performance and price so if all you can afford/justify is something like a GTX 1660 Super, it will still allow you to play VR, I'd just be a little more concerned about the 'longevity' of the system/GPU- you'd likely be upgrading GPU earlier if you go with a GTX 1660/1660S/1660Ti instead of an RX 5700/5700XT.

If you clarify your budget/currency for us, we can help with a parts list.
It would also be useful if we knew what monitor(s) you'll be using with this system though.
Will you be mostly using the system for VR, or rarely?
I assume you don't need any peripherals?
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Scratched wroteSpeaking from someone with a vr headset you truly don't want to cheap out. Lower refresh rates and stutters can seriously mess with you. And if you have full body tracking, you've got even more issues to deal with.

Something a lot of people don't understand is yes you can run VR games on some low end machines, but the chances of getting sick get extremely high. Especially on your first dive and you experience a stutter it can really throw you. Even more so do you want the extra horse power in a GPU for anti aliasing because VR games are HORRIBLE for jagged lines and edges. Which most people can ignore or never notice on a normal monitor but in VR it's an extremely harsh thing you constantly notice.

Final note in, if this PC is for modding and gaming you really need to consider your storage. 240GB would cover GTA V, World of Warcraft, ESO, and that is about it. When you're building a PC you really need to factor not what is you WANT to do NOW, but LATER. And it's easier to burn money for the now and only the now and end up screwing yourself where you could have saved by going another 20 here or there.

Low End VR($767.57)
Mid Range VR Build ($1375.15)


Thank you for the response honestly liking that mid range build. And will probably go with that.


If that's the case and you're able to spend higher, like 21 said. Give us a budget to work with, because what I used as a metric was your own build's parts. Regardless, we still need the rest of the info you need to answer or else we may have to cut your options down. On another note, what VR system are you looking at getting? If the Index or Vive how many light houses are you looking into getting (2 is considered optimal, 3 is considered for best tracking, and 4 is considered overkill perfection.) Any interest in full body tracking info, keep in mind that full body requires more USB ports used which will increase motherboard price tags.


Requesting a list of parts

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