AdviceGood Pre Built PC Spec For Destiny 2
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Hi guys/girls,

Pleased to be in the forum and I really hope someone can take a short time to give me some advice on a build as I am moving from PS4 to PC.

I play Destiny 2 and would like a pre build and to use a UK comany called CCL as their systems come with a three year parts and labour warranty.

I would like a system that is more than capable of handling Destiny 2 with a little bit of future proofness if possible. I do not need an operating system as I am going to install Ubuntu as this will only be for gaming. As I said Destiny 2 but I may download some other free games from Steam.


Here athe D2 recommended specs:

Destiny 2 Recommended Requirements

CPU: Intel - Core i5-2400 / AMD - Ryzen R5 1600X
CPU SPEED: Info
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
VIDEO CARD: Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 4GB or GTX 1060 6GB / AMD - Radeon R9 390 8GB
PIXEL SHADER: 5.1
VERTEX SHADER: 5.1
FREE DISK SPACE: 68 GB
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 4 GB (AMD 8 GB)


I have a budget of around £800 but that is flexible if someone says for example, that particular component is worth paying extra for. It really is a minefield out there and I do not want to mix components that may be of no benefit or have an adverse effect on the system.

Glass side case and some lights would be nice and I intend to use a wired connection, so wireless is not a must, but given as they are so cheap then why not.

I have been told Ryzen are good and to go with at least 16gb of good memory and a good graphics card and mother board.

Given that I will not be storing anything other than my games do I really need two hard drives or better just with the one SSD?

I use a BenQ Eyecare Monitor due to my eyesight Model EW277HDR which is 4ms response and 1080P

Here is link to the one I am looking at with CCL and if someone could please take some time to advise before I make a right hash of things I would really appreciate it.You will see the customise tab where parts can be changed.

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Thanks in advance,

Scott.
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Lot to unpack here, welcome to PC Gaming. I would never recommend a prebuilt system outright unless you are dead set on not wanting to build. The price difference on building one and buying one are pretty insane, and so long as you're not doing any real overclocking your parts will still be covered by a warranty fairly safely.

Linux has come a long way for gaming, but you're still going to have some serious issues. It's by no means a bad choice, but I definitely would not be one to ever take or recommend it.

Better question though is what are you looking for? Advice on if you should buy it prebuilt or build it?

When it comes to Ryzen CPUs, memory amount isn't what matters, it's moreso speed and the sweet spot is by most 3600MHz. 16GB of RAM just means you'll be able to run a good amount of things in the background, not just the game. Chrome, discord, teamspeak, game, etc. RAM = Multitasking ability. By no means do you actually need an SSD outright, frankly the price on SSDs is still insane, though they have significantly came down, it'll still be some time before we see 1TB SSDs selling for an average of 50.00 USD and 2TB selling for less than 100.00 USD. Barracuda is well known for their product line too so it's not a bad choice. Though I can say the difference in SSD to HDD is night and day. It's really no more than an impatience meter luxury item, but it awesome to have your system and games boot in literally seconds.

If advice is what you seek, surprisingly that PC does fairly well come ahead in terms for price and performance to the point there isn't much I'd be willing to change in it myself. Things I would change though would be the CPU, motherboard, and HDD. Not much else to say there, it's very decent and I'm deeply curious how they're making any profit off of it.
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Thanks for the advice Scratch, yes they are not making a lot and other PC builders in the UK seem to be the same. I can only think they are buying parts in bulk as they are a large reputable company.

I would love to do it myself but time constraints etc and other factors. I spoke to a local PC builder who told he and others like him here in the UK cannot compete with these people as they are buying components so cheaply because they are buying in bulk. To the point where he said he was building hardly any for customers and most of his friends are in the same boat.

Ironically, he visits the US every few months to see family and he said what we pay here in the UK for components is insanely bad compared to the US.

Budget is a factor as it is my forst dip into PC gaming.

Could you explain why a Linux OS might not be a good bet as by not installing Windows I could save about £110.00

Thanks,

Scott
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scotty66 wrote Thanks for the advice Scratch, yes they are not making a lot and other PC builders in the UK seem to be the same. I can only think they are buying parts in bulk as they are a large reputable company.

I would love to do it myself but time constraints etc and other factors. I spoke to a local PC builder who told he and others like him here in the UK cannot compete with these people as they are buying components so cheaply because they are buying in bulk. To the point where he said he was building hardly any for customers and most of his friends are in the same boat.

Ironically, he visits the US every few months to see family and he said what we pay here in the UK for components is insanely bad compared to the US.

Budget is a factor as it is my forst dip into PC gaming.

Could you explain why a Linux OS might not be a good bet as by not installing Windows I could save about £110.00

Thanks,

Scott


Hey Scotty,

Just a tip about Windows you can run Windows 10 for free you don't have to buy it Microsoft offer the Windows 10 ISO for free on their website found here

microsoft.com/en-gb/software-down.../windows10

You can download and install it and it will run just fine apart from you will have a message in your settings saying the following.

https://i.imgur.com/4dOfCoo.png

I did this and then paid for a key later on from Microsoft on Amazon. You can pick up Windows 10 keys for under $10.

Just grab a USB drive use the Windows 10 tool from the Microsoft website install that to the USB drive and just grab a key later on and just keep note of it.
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Great Sean, thanks.
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What Sean said for OS is spot on, explained it better than I would have myself. That is exactly what you should do IMO.

As for PC, I'd really recommend looking in to building the system yourself. We'd be happy to help with a parts list, and you'll just get a much better quality/value system tailored to your specific needs.

That said, if you're buying an ~£800ish Ryzen pre-built from CCL, you should be looking at these specs;
R5 2600
16GB 3000/3200MHz RAM
480-512GB SSD. Intel 660p or ADATA SX8200 PRO are good NVMe options if not much more expensive than a SATA SSD.

Case and motherboard can't be changed it looks like. The case is meh, but as long as it works it'll do the job I suppose. The motherboard used in that pre-built on CCL is also kind of meh, it will work fine with an R5 2600 for sure but one of the reasons I'd prefer to build the system myself is that you can get a better motherboard.
The PSU also can't be changed and I don't see any make/model listed so that's a bit sketchy, as it could be a low quality PSU being used which is always a big no no! 650W and Gold rated seems alright, but there are plenty of 650W+ Gold rated PSUs that are absolute shit so without knowing the make and model, it's a shot in the dark really.

Last is the GPU, for an £800 pre-built, you should easily be able to get a 1660Ti. Depending on what monitor(s) you're using, you could potentially save some cash and go with an RX 570/580 or GTX 1660 instead of a 1660Ti.
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21 wrote What Sean said for OS is spot on, explained it better than I would have myself. That is exactly what you should do IMO.

As for PC, I'd really recommend looking in to building the system yourself. We'd be happy to help with a parts list, and you'll just get a much better quality/value system tailored to your specific needs.

That said, if you're buying an ~£800ish Ryzen pre-built from CCL, you should be looking at these specs;
R5 2600
16GB 3000/3200MHz RAM
480-512GB SSD. Intel 660p or ADATA SX8200 PRO are good NVMe options if not much more expensive than a SATA SSD.

Case and motherboard can't be changed it looks like. The case is meh, but as long as it works it'll do the job I suppose. The motherboard used in that pre-built on CCL is also kind of meh, it will work fine with an R5 2600 for sure but one of the reasons I'd prefer to build the system myself is that you can get a better motherboard.
The PSU also can't be changed and I don't see any make/model listed so that's a bit sketchy, as it could be a low quality PSU being used which is always a big no no! 650W and Gold rated seems alright, but there are plenty of 650W+ Gold rated PSUs that are absolute shit so without knowing the make and model, it's a shot in the dark really.

Last is the GPU, for an £800 pre-built, you should easily be able to get a 1660Ti. Depending on what monitor(s) you're using, you could potentially save some cash and go with an RX 570/580 or GTX 1660 instead of a 1660Ti.


Did you check the website he linked? Genineuly I think that company might make 2.00 quid off that prebuilt, and if they are buying in bulk it could be higher but that price tag screams of a liquidation sale.


And yeah scotty66 is right with the cracked version of windows. Why though I'd say it's worse to have Linux is more or less personal interest. I'm just not a fan of having to take extra steps to launch a game and still have issues from drivers to fps. BUT if security is and privacy are what you want, you really can't beat Linux.
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Thanks a lot guys. I got this self build priced up by a friend who does self builds and he said he would build it for me. What do you think? [Minimum post requirement for links]

Thanks,

Scott
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Scratched wrote Did you check the website he linked? Genineuly I think that company might make 2.00 quid off that prebuilt, and if they are buying in bulk it could be higher but that price tag screams of a liquidation sale.

Of course I looked, hence why I answered OP's questions. That is absolutely not a liquidation sale from CCL, and they're absolutely making more than 2 quid.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (£114.78 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard (£89.48 @ Box Limited)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£30.94 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Kingston A400 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£17.58 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£35.97 @ PC World Business)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB Phoenix OC Video Card (£199.99 @ AWD-IT)
Total: £488.74

That's the exact parts list OP linked that is £675 on CCL. Minus case and PSU obviously, but the case looks like it's worth about 25 quid, so let's say £520 for the system without PSU. Are you telling me the PSU that CCL are using in that pre-built is worth £150ish? I very much doubt it.
Also, I specifically stated that OP would be better off building himself for value reasons, as well as being able to tailor the system to his specific needs.

OP;
That system your friend put together is looking much better. Exactly why you should build yourself. However, do not touch that Vega 56 with a 10ft pole. It's a blower style cooler which will be awful, even if you undervolt. I'd also change the case/PSU, but the 2 your friend suggested aren't terrible, just over-priced for what they are IMO.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 8-Core Processor (£154.09 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard (£99.60 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory (£66.97 @ Laptops Direct)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (£102.66 @ Ebuyer)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB OC Video Card (£249.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case (£64.17 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply (£63.97 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £801.44

Better quality case and PSU, as well as a better motherboard. The B450 Tomahawk/MAX is technically a better quality mobo than the Strix B450, but the Strix B450 is also a fine option.

You can spend the extra 15 quid for a 2700x if you want, or just save 40 and grab yourself an R5 2600 if you don't need the extra 2 cores/4 threads with the R7.

For GPU, 1660Ti is a solid mid range option. It will trade blows with the Vega 56, so Vega 56 would be a decent alternative, if you could get anything other than those shitty blower style coolers.
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