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Hello there, as you know there's a massive difference between Console gaming and gaming on PC itself. I'm moving away from console gaming and I'm moving onto PC gaming as you can do such much with customized PC's. Here is my list and tell me what I should delete from the list, what's best with my budget etc..
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I want my pc for gaming like GTA5, CoD etc..
I want my pc to be good for rendering videos, editing videos etc.. I'm looking forward coding on my custom PC. I don't want to overclock my PC/- Should I? Budget: £1,700 - £2,000 I dont care really What should I add to make the pc parts look better on my PC
What parts should I add in general? What parts should I delete for my custom pc list? Also what applications is best to work with for my custom PC for better performance? Note: The only thing I purchased on the link which shows above is the PC Case which is the; NZXT H500i |
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Overclocking has it's benefits, but those can be completely invalid for you. In gaming overclocking can range you from 0 - 7fps in games at best. But you may see things improve like how much faster you can render, publish and edit files that could be extremely significant.
Your first real issue however is your RGB comparability. NZXT does not work with Corsair. Nor would I even consider using NZXT's GPU "Cooler" because of just how ungodly ugly the thing is. I would never recommend any PC gamer to a wifi connection, especially if you want to stream. Sound cards are a nice thing, but it's an aged relic frankly these days. More people use things like DACs, Preamps, amps, and mixers to truly tune their quality. For the SSD, frankly go for 1TB instead of 960, the price difference is not that bad. SU800 1TB goes for just about 10 pounds more. When it comes to the 9k series CPUs frankly I'd hold off and wait till we all see what AMD has in store for their 3k series CPUs. Because a 9700k vs an 8700k and a 9900k the performance you get is really not that much of a difference, sure there's tasks that the 9700k and 9900k can do the 8700k can't. But when you compare prices on them and heat you have a very different story for those few hundred points on a benchmark and a 5-15 fps difference in select games. Do you have a mouse and keyboard? Do you have any monitors? Do you understand audio? Do you have a mic already, is it USB or XLR condenser or dynamic? Looks is entirely based to you. If you want ridiculously minimalist, NZXT has some great motherboard options, cases and so on to match. If you want to be flashy corsair currently has some great looking points especially with Hydro X. And what looks good to us, may not look good to you. My ideal endgame is to have my whole PC in a black stained oak desk. With my whole 3 monitor setup and VR room. That may never be even an option for you, if for nothing but the need of power tools to make it happen. Main Questions: Do you have a mic/ is it a concern for you to have one or not? Do you have any monitor(s)? Is there information you want to know about such? Do you have a keyboard, mouse, and mouse pad? Are these something you'd like to improve? Are you partnered with youtube, twitch, libry, etc. Because it can and will effect your stream quality. Do you have any knowledge of capture cards, would you like recommendations or do you already have one? What do you use to render, edit and produce your videos in? What resolution for your gaming are you looking for and in your videos? Frame rates you're aiming for and quality? Do you care at all about RTX features? Do you have any plans for upgrades, if so when? And do you not care about current future releases of products like AMD's 3k series CPUs or Nvidia's rumored SUPER RTX line up? How much do you value your audio if at all? What is your internet connection speed? It can effect how you're able to play games, especially when it's wifi over wired. Do you understand monitor panels? The difference of a response time, refresh rate, IPS vs TN vs VA, etc. This can heavily effect you due to color accuracy. Modified list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BtZz29 RGB Controller |
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Scratched wrote Overclocking has it's benefits, but those can be completely invalid for you. In gaming overclocking can range you from 0 - 7fps in games at best. Depends. If a game is very CPU dependent, you could see a pretty significant performance increase with even a slight overclock. It depends entirely on the situation, some games/programs are more sensitive to frequency. Scratched wrote Because a 9700k vs an 8700k and a 9900k the performance you get is really not that much of a difference, sure there's tasks that the 9700k and 9900k can do the 8700k can't. But when you compare prices on them and heat you have a very different story for those few hundred points on a benchmark and a 5-15 fps difference in select games. It's not just a "few hundred points" and "5-15fps" though. If he's rendering 4k video's, he's definitely going to see a benefit with an i9-9900k over an i7-8700k/9700k. There is no task the 8700k can't do that a 9700k/9900k could do? The 8700k has 4 more threads than the 9700k. OP; Do you need a monitor? If not, what monitor(s) are you using? If you do need a monitor, any preferences? What's the external HDD for? I definitely wouldn't be paying £80 for Win10, you can use it for free or easily buy a key for ~£30. I also would not buy the NZXT H500i, it's over-priced- just grab the normal NZXT H500 or another similar $70ish case. Pls don't use a wi-fi adapter. No need for a sound card, it would make more sense to go with an external set-up if you're not happy using the motherboard's on-board audio. That RAM is silly expensive. A GTX 1660Ti really does not belong in an £1800 PC by any means. NZXT G10 is useless without an AIO for it. |
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| Not what I meant between the two 8700k and 9k series. But moreso towards price and performance, yes the 9k series chips are better in nearly all places, even can well out perform the 8700k. BUT. Run hotter typically and in GAMES don't show that much performance. I can even say that a 9900k can improve fps as high as 20. But for the price and a board to match it and overclock it to get it there outweighs the CPU alone on a lower board. But yes they can improve and even moreso for 4k, the big point being we still have no idea what AMD will put out with the 3k series chips. Speaking for myself I can't justify buying a 9900k because of how AMD is looking right now, so recommending it for me is hard especially since it'll be 2.. maybe 3 months at the most before they go for sale. |
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Scratched wrote Overclocking has it's benefits, but those can be completely invalid for you. In gaming overclocking can range you from 0 - 7fps in games at best. But you may see things improve like how much faster you can render, publish and edit files that could be extremely significant. I need to buy an Elgato capture card, right? Scratched wrote Your first real issue however is your RGB comparability. NZXT does not work with Corsair. Okay, so there's no point in having a "cooler" if only I need to overclock my PC? Mind you I don't know what the overclocking works nor how it looks like program wise. Coming into the #PCMR community is a big leap jump. Trying to take all of the basic things I need to know to run a PC. I'm not planning to stream at all it's just the points that I have made like I want the pc use for rendering, gaming and editing nothing else. SO..best thing is not to go with a sound card what's so ever? I don't use AMPS or any other technical equipment. Okay, so I understand for myself "If I don't buy a wifi adaptor I can't connect to my system?" Sorry for the nooby question, uhh this is kinda cringe writing this out while biting my lips together. Basically, I can connect to my wifi it's like buying a laptop from a system shop I can connect to my wifi, right? If I can what's the point in buying a wifi adapter in the first place? Scratched wrote When it comes to the 9k series CPUs frankly I'd hold off and wait till we all see what AMD has in store for their 3k series CPUs. Because a 9700k vs an 8700k and a 9900k the performance you get is really not that much of a difference, sure there's tasks that the 9700k and 9900k can do the 8700k can't. But when you compare prices on them and heat you have a very different story for those few hundred points on a benchmark and a 5-15 fps difference in select games. Yes, I heard wait for it off until there's a new AMD but when it the launch for the new AMD so I can buy? Yes, I have a monitor, mouse, and keyboard. Just waiting on myself to buy the things for the pc and get my friend to build the pc for me. Yes, I understand audio but what do you mean what way do you mean "audio?" Yes I have a mic which is shit. I want a GoXLR I have a shitty USB plugged in mic. (Blue) Scratched wrote Looks is entirely based to you. If you want ridiculously minimalist, NZXT has some great motherboard options, cases and so on to match. If you want to be flashy corsair currently has some great looking points especially with Hydro X. And what looks good to us, may not look good to you. My ideal endgame is to have my whole PC in a black stained oak desk. With my whole 3 monitor setup and VR room. That may never be even an option for you, if for nothing but the need for power tools to make it happen. I like white, the color white, I basically have a black and white setup. My gaming setup isn't the best right now. I have x1 BenQ monitor, White Blue Yetti Mic, Blue laptop (will exchange to my custom PC) Black razer chroma keyboard, "mouse" too! White gloss desk from Ikea. Main Questions: Do you have a mic/ is it a concern for you to have one or not? Blue Yetti Do you have any monitor(s)? Is there information you want to know about such? I have BenQ Do you have a keyboard, mouse, and mouse pad? Are these something you'd like to improve? Yes I have keyboard and mouse, do I need to improve? No! Are you partnered with youtube, twitch, libry, etc. Because it can and will effect your stream quality. No Do you have any knowledge of capture cards, would you like recommendations or do you already have one? Coming from a console gamer so no I don't know really. I know how to set one up for a console but for a PC that's a completely another ball game for me. I think I have to say no?! What do you use to render, edit and produce your videos in? Sony Vegas Pro 16 What resolution for your gaming are you looking for and in your videos? 1080p Frame rates you're aiming for and quality? No sure really what you think? I want the best if not just good to game with Do you care at all about RTX features? What's that - clueless! Do you have any plans for upgrades, if so when? And do you not care about current future releases of products like AMD's 3k series CPUs or Nvidia's rumored SUPER RTX line up? YES How much do you value your audio if at all? "Not sure to be honest, not much at all What is your internet connection speed? It can effect how you're able to play games, especially when it's wifi over wired. Internet is wireless and not wired. My upload speed is 1.25 - Yeah I know what you are thinking...YEP, it's bad. lol Do you understand monitor panels? The difference of a response time, refresh rate, IPS vs TN vs VA, etc. This can heavily effect you due to color accuracy. Not really I kinda understand the scree rate speeds etc.. Modified list: uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/BtZz29 RGB Controller[/quote][/size][/align] |
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. I will not be rendering 4k videos. I will be rendering 720p to 1080p quality videos
. I'll just wait for the new AMD to be released. . Updated the pcpartlocker link. . Deleted Win10 as I get it for free as you mentioned . TOO LATE ALREADY PURCHASED THE CASE. . WIFI has been deleted from the list. . Sound Card has been deleted from the list. . . OP; Do you need a monitor? If not, what monitor(s) are you using? Got a monitor If you do need a monitor, any preferences? No What's the external HDD for? Removed from list I definitely wouldn't be paying £80 for Win10, you can use it for free or easily buy a key for ~£30. I also would not buy the NZXT H500i, it's over-priced- just grab the normal NZXT H500 or another similar $70ish case. Pls don't use a wi-fi adapter. No need for a sound card, it would make more sense to go with an external set-up if you're not happy using the motherboard's on-board audio. That RAM is silly expensive. A GTX 1660Ti really does not belong in an £1800 PC by any means. NZXT G10 is useless without an AIO for it.[/quote] |
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The NZXT cooler you chose was a hybrid mod that allows you to use NZXT's AIO. SO IF you were going for a hybrid cooled GPU, then yes it makes some sense though I would recommend anything else over NZXT purely for design at the start and even harder for performance. It's not a bad option, but it is by no means great especially if aesthetics is an issue for you. Top it off CAM software is notorious, but NZXT does have good products, just software wise... they are below a meh.
In the case for such, then your internet connection doesn't matter so much, I'd still recommend heavily against wifi. Sound cards are...good. But if you really want your audio to be clean and clear and want to reduce all factors of noise. Deadening foam panels, XLR mics, and a heavy recommendation for a mixer. This way you can control everything from sound effects to gain, compression, aux lanes for separation of audio tracks and in my opinion the best part being hardware. Working knobs is daunting at first but comparing it to a software you need to constant alt-tab and adjust is aggravating. As for wifi. No you can connect your PC simply via ethernet. Marked in yellow is said port for your motherboard. https://i.imgur.com/ejxZ2Fh.png Wifi connection is as simple as buying a USB Adapter that is extremely cheaper and works the same. Other options are out there that can offer some better speeds, all still cheaper. And wifi vs wired connection there simply put is no comparsion. Wifi just cannot compete with a wired connection in speed and latency, genuinely there is no point to them when you can get an ethernet cable to run to your router to your PC and chances are you already have one and can do that connection for nothing but plugging in a cable the same as you would a USB. If you're mobile a lot and you need a wifi connection, then yes a USB adapter would be a great benefit and small ones like the one I linked would aid in them not getting damaged while in transit use. Of course though always be careful with cables and anything plugged in. Yes the 9700k is a good CPU and it out performs previous and Intel generations as well as all Ryzen line up currently. If you don't care about AMD then yes, go for the 9700k. It is a fantastic choice hands down. I would only advise however to at least wait until the benchmarks (performance readings) for AMD's 3k series line up to really gauge the value, and if anything.. It may drop the price to the 9700k. The GoXLR I would heavily advise against, while it does offer a lot of features make no mistake it is not a mixer in itself. You do not have the ability to actually control your audio, settings, or effects via hardware which is the difference to a mixer and mixer software. The GoXLR for what it offers is honestly is over priced and simply tagged onto Twitch streamers and the RGB is completely useless for such a product. So my question now for you is, what exactly do you want out of your audio? Do you need the customization and immediate record and playback that the GoXLR offers? Do you care about the RGB? Do you want separation of your audio track(s) and via what? Hardware or software because there are FREE options for software. But there is serious benefit in DACs, Preamps and mixers being in hardware and allowing the same features but in complete real time adjustments and more. Do you want to upgrade your mic? If so further up the chain in USB, or do you want to go XLR? What kind of XLR, Condenser (mostly used in things like vocal productions and music) or Dynamic (Mostly used in broadcasting and outdoor/indoor massive environments. Think weather channel and radio DJs.) How much do you want to spend on a mic? Do you understand the use of pop filters and how to avoid plooms as well for differences in metal, mesh, fabric and foam filters? Any ideas for stands, mounts, shock mounts? As for setting up a capture card for your PC it's virtually the same as a console, just less cable line. What I meant by frame rates and quality, 1080p at ultra everything and 144fps or 1080 low and 240fps. Because if it's quality you want that 1080p ultra will be there for sure, your frames however may not keep up with RTX features enabled. If your audio doesn't matter to you though I would stick with your USB mic. XLR will definitely jump the quality up very significantly, but if it's not something you care about, I can't in good faith recommend it. RTX Features are things like, global...Easier just to show. Towards Panels.. In the end it really comes down to how high end your budget really goes and how much this really matters. If you're say working with Pixar, you may very well not even consider an LCD monitor type and go for OLED or something far better for the absolute most accurate color reproductions, this can also extend to someone just wanting to be an artist and really make beautiful content that has depth to itself. LCD being significantly cheaper in all regards, can do some very good comparsion to LED and even some OLED you'd usually find such in IPS panels. If you're just looking for a monitor that displays 1080p at 60fps, plenty of options and I would recommend sticking exclusively to ones that are 1ms in response time to reduce latency as much as possible. But if you want to stop some blurring 120hz, 144, and 200+ are absolutely definite options and I'd spring for 140+ at a minimum to get there. |
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Scratched wrote The NZXT cooler you chose was a hybrid mod that allows you to use NZXT's AIO. SO IF you were going for a hybrid cooled GPU, then yes it makes some sense though I would recommend anything else over NZXT purely for design at the start and even harder for performance. It's not a bad option, but it is by no means great especially if aesthetics is an issue for you. Top it off CAM software is notorious, but NZXT does have good products, just software wise... they are below a meh. Okay, thanks for the detailed text documents really helped me understand the differences. Okay, so I've bookmarked Elgato HD60 Pro which I will need right? I have also bookmarked the USB wifi dongle as well thanks for that. I've edited my pc parts list and this is what I need to buy; List Would you really could help me with picking the correct GoXLR mic, the stand and everything I basically need for the XLR. I have a blue yeti and it's horrible.
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A capture card is just a means of capturing video and streaming at the same time reducing encoding work load. In your case scenario something as simple and free like OBS would do respectively fine.
Okay... let me back you up here, one. You said audio isn't a major factor for you. Correct or not? Do you actually NEED an XLR mic, yes the quality is far superior and will beat any USB mic out. BUT there is a cost and it's not JUST a mic you buy, it's a stand, shock mount, pop filter(s), XLR cable, and a preamp or mixer at basically the minimum. The cost can range from 80.00 to literally 4,000.00. My Mic Setup: Mixer - 329.99 Mic - 268.80 Pop filter - 9.99 Scissor Stand - 59.99 USB 2.0 - 3.0 Cable 4.99 Total Cost - 673.76 So I ask you, is high end audio really the route you want to go? If so, I can guide you there but you need to be deathly specific what it is in terms of audio you're looking for. By this I don't mean "USB mic in trash now." Because with XLR mics, it is NOT plug and play, a GoXLR "mixer" DOES NOT have good software and is SOFTWARE based, NOT hardware which is a HUGE difference. So, options that don't break the bank, but will provide quality would be things like.. Great USB Mics: Samson G Track Pro Rode NT-USB Mic Mixer / Audio Programs: Audacity Reaper Muxy Waves eMotion LV1 Hell OBS can do so good when it comes to audio all by itself if you give the time and dedication to learning that software. Some upgrades for your PC are not as simple as just buying one thing. And if you don't have a grasp on what you're buying you could screw yourself pretty bad. There are better mics out there, still recommend wired over wireless... |
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| We need to know what exact monitor you are using before we can assist OP. If you're using a 1080p60Hz monitor, you'll want to use some of your £2000 budget towards an upgrade. |
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