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Hi there,
I am planning on building a pc for gaming with a focus on multiboxing World of Warcraft (running multiple clients of the game). I can lower the settings as low as possible for the multibox, as for regular gaming, I don't expect godlike performance but I would really like it to work well now and in the nearest future.
My budget is not really that great, around 1500$
I've asked around and got a pc example, but since I'm not that knowledgeable about PCs, I'd like to ask around more experienced people.
The set they proposed was as following:

Graphics card: XFX Radeon RX 590 FATBOY 8GB GDDR5 3xDP HDMI DVI (RX-590P8DFD6)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING
RAM: G.Skill Aegis, DDR4, 32GB,3000MHz, CL16 (F4-3000C16D-32GISB)
SSD: SSD ADATA SU800 512GB SATA3 (ASU800SS-512GT-C)
Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 GHz 20MB, BOX (YD2700BBAFBOX)
Case: SilentiumPC Regnum RG4T Pure Black (SPC178)
Power: SilentiumPC Supremo M2 Gold 550W (SPC140)
Cooling: CPU SilentiumPC Grandis 2 XE1436
I've also considered some kind of DVD drive

Is this set good enough for my needs? Do I need to add anything when buying? Any kind of additional cooling or anything.
I must say that I'm usually a intel/geforce guy, but the price is a lot smaller in this set, and it seems pretty powerful.
This set adds up to around 1300$ so I could probably spend a little bit more, but if its unnecessary I am fine with it aswell.

Thanks a lot in advance!
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Who is recommending "SilentiumPC" parts to you? Or is that part of a pre-built? Either way, an RX 590 does not belong in a $1300-1500 system, unless maybe it includes a nice 4k monitor. I definitely wouldn't go Intel for CPU, but I wouldn't be buying an AMD GPU with this kind of budget since they don't really have anything that competes on the high end.

Assuming the currency is USD? and the budget is anywhere from 1300-1500?
What monitor(s) will you be using with this system?
What else will the system be used for?
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21 wrote Who is recommending "SilentiumPC" parts to you? Or is that part of a pre-built? Either way, an RX 590 does not belong in a $1300-1500 system, unless maybe it includes a nice 4k monitor. I definitely wouldn't go Intel for CPU, but I wouldn't be buying an AMD GPU with this kind of budget since they don't really have anything that competes on the high end.

Assuming the currency is USD? and the budget is anywhere from 1300-1500?
What monitor(s) will you be using with this system?
What else will the system be used for?


For the silentium parts, they were recoommended by the guy on another forums, I guess he just picked those parts in one of the shops in my country, so I guess it is not a pre-built pc.
What do you mean by it not belonging? Is it to weak, strong or simply does not fit with other parts?

The budget is around 1500USD, since its probably the easiest to explain, but the PC will be bought in Polish shops, so the prices will be quite different from US ones. The parts that I mentioned add up to around 1300USD in here. Peripherals are a separate budget.
Monitor, for now will probably by pretty cheap one, since at the moment I can't really afford a better one. But this will ofcourse be changed in the future, 4k one is not out of the question.
The PC will be mainly used for gaming, with focus on multiboxing that is quite taxing on both processor as well as RAM. Good GPU is a plus aswell, since I'd also like to enjoy some new games from time to time. Aside from that, basic movie / internet stuff. Maybe some CAD stuff.
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Lembaspl wrote For the silentium parts, they were recoommended by the guy on another forums, I guess he just picked those parts in one of the shops in my country, so I guess it is not a pre-built pc.

Yeah, if you were in the US those parts likely wouldn't make sense. Availability of those parts will just be better in your country, as well as prices most likely.

Lembaspl wrote What do you mean by it not belonging? Is it to weak, strong or simply does not fit with other parts?

The RX 590 would be too low-end for a $1300-1500USD system, but you're not building a $1300-1500USD system since you're in Poland, so the RX 590 may actually make sense. That said, the RX 590 is an RX 580, so you might be better off going with an RX 580 as they tend to be cheaper than the 590 - at least in the UK and US.

Lembaspl wrote The budget is around 1500USD, since its probably the easiest to explain

It's not. You won't be buying parts in the US, so us recommending a US based parts list would ultimately be pointless. It's not a straight currency conversion since availability in Poland is far different to that of the US, and you'll end up paying more for the same(or very similar) components as you would in the US. So, what is your budget in your currency? It would also be useful if you could give us an idea of shops where you'd be purchasing components, in case it's a bit of a nightmare for us to find somewhere. From a quick Google though, Komputronik looks like the place to buy PC components in Poland?

Lembaspl wrote Peripherals are a separate budget.
Monitor, for now will probably by pretty cheap one, since at the moment I can't really afford a better one. But this will ofcourse be changed in the future, 4k one is not out of the question.

Well, I wouldn't really go spending $1500 on a system to pair it with a $100ish monitor. Will you be buying a monitor at the same time as the system? If so, what's the budget for the system and a monitor?
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Yeah, if you were in the US those parts likely wouldn't make sense. Availability of those parts will just be better in your country, as well as prices most likely.

The RX 590 would be too low-end for a $1300-1500USD system, but you're not building a $1300-1500USD system since you're in Poland, so the RX 590 may actually make sense. That said, the RX 590 is an RX 580, so you might be better off going with an RX 580 as they tend to be cheaper than the 590 - at least in the UK and US.


I see. I don't really know why exactly those parts were given, I just copied what they proposed.

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It's not. You won't be buying parts in the US, so us recommending a US based parts list would ultimately be pointless. It's not a straight currency conversion since availability in Poland is far different to that of the US, and you'll end up paying more for the same(or very similar) components as you would in the US. So, what is your budget in your currency? It would also be useful if you could give us an idea of shops where you'd be purchasing components, in case it's a bit of a nightmare for us to find somewhere. From a quick Google though, Komputronik looks like the place to buy PC components in Poland?


My bad. The budget in PLN is lets say 5000-6000, the less the better as long as the pc is strong enough for the multiboxing.
As for the shops, yea, Komputronik is one of them. In my case, the setup I mentioned was created on this website:
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It has pretty cheap prices and I can pick the order quite near my place so thats one of the reasons.
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Well, I wouldn't really go spending $1500 on a system to pair it with a $100ish monitor. Will you be buying a monitor at the same time as the system? If so, what's the budget for the system and a monitor?

As I said before, my main focus for the moment is the multiboxing, you can consider it as some kind of job for me, therefore it is the most important aspect, the rest can be worked out in time.. I don't really mind suffering for a while on a bad monitor, as long as the pc is up to the job. Therefore the monitor for now is not that important for me at the moment, as long as my budget is able to handle the PC.
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from Komputronik.pl.


For case, NZXT H500 is a good middle ground but it's not on stock on Komputronik's website. Morele seem to have the NZXT H500 in stock at a similar price to the P350X on Komputronik, so you can get the H500 from Morele instead if you want. The P350X is a good budget case as well, so honestly just pick whichever you prefer the look of.

For PSU, stick with the Corsair Vengeance. It's technically only rated as 80+ Bronze, but it would easily pass as Gold rated as it's a stellar quality unit. It's also very well priced.

For SSD, I'd just stick with an 860 EVO tbh. You can find some really cheap budget 480-512GB SSD's, but the 860 EVO is priced well and is a great SSD. If you want something cheaper though, I'd get a Crucial BX500;
komputronik.pl/product/547146/cru...480gb.html
I also added a 2TB HDD, since I assume you'll want more than just the 500GB SSD. You can drop the 2TB hard drive if you've already got HDD(s) or don't need more than the 500GB SSD.

For RAM, Morele have some cheaper RAM it looks like, so one of these kits might be worth it over the G.Skill kit from Komputronik;
morele.net/pamiec-g-skill-sniper-...b-1762915/
morele.net/pamiec-ballistix-tacti...k-1806433/
morele.net/pamiec-corsair-vengean...6-1792415/

For GPU, the RX 590 seems to be priced about the same as an 8GB RX 580 anyway, so if you want an 8GB variant over 4GB, then I'd just grab an RX 590 for around 1200zl. I just included a 4GB RX 580 as your baseline here really. Your next step up is an RTX 2060, which will set you back around 1600-1700zl minimum. The RTX 2060 is quite a substantial increase in performance over an RX 580/590 though.

For CPU, the R7 1700x is a good bit cheaper than an R7 2700, only reason I went with the 1700x. That said, you'll need an aftermarket cooler for the 1700x which closes the price gap. You'd end up with a better cooler than the stock one that comes with the R7 2700, but the R7 2700 is capable of slightly higher clock speeds than a 1700x if you're going to overclock. If you do decide to go with the 1700x, SilentiumPC cooler's do actually seem reasonably priced, so one of those might not be a bad shout;
komputronik.pl/product/591787/sil...tlet-.html
komputronik.pl/product/342356/sil...e1436.html
or this Be Quiet! cooer;
komputronik.pl/product/192209/be-...ock-2.html
Alternatively, if you want a cooler a little more flashy at the cost of some cooling performance;
komputronik.pl/product/585074/coo...k-rgb.html
komputronik.pl/product/454057/coo...-120l.html

Lastly, I'd definitely be aiming for pretty much anything better than a 1080p monitor at this point. If that means grabbing an RX 580/590 over an RTX 2060 or something, then it'll probably be worth it.
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For case, NZXT H500 is a good middle ground but it's not on stock on Komputronik's website. Morele seem to have the NZXT H500 in stock at a similar price to the P350X on Komputronik, so you can get the H500 from Morele instead if you want. The P350X is a good budget case as well, so honestly just pick whichever you prefer the look of.

For PSU, stick with the Corsair Vengeance. It's technically only rated as 80+ Bronze, but it would easily pass as Gold rated as it's a stellar quality unit. It's also very well priced.

For SSD, I'd just stick with an 860 EVO tbh. You can find some really cheap budget 480-512GB SSD's, but the 860 EVO is priced well and is a great SSD. If you want something cheaper though, I'd get a Crucial BX500;
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I also added a 2TB HDD, since I assume you'll want more than just the 500GB SSD. You can drop the 2TB hard drive if you've already got HDD(s) or don't need more than the 500GB SSD.

For RAM, Morele have some cheaper RAM it looks like, so one of these kits might be worth it over the G.Skill kit from Komputronik;
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For GPU, the RX 590 seems to be priced about the same as an 8GB RX 580 anyway, so if you want an 8GB variant over 4GB, then I'd just grab an RX 590 for around 1200zl. I just included a 4GB RX 580 as your baseline here really. Your next step up is an RTX 2060, which will set you back around 1600-1700zl minimum. The RTX 2060 is quite a substantial increase in performance over an RX 580/590 though.

For CPU, the R7 1700x is a good bit cheaper than an R7 2700, only reason I went with the 1700x. That said, you'll need an aftermarket cooler for the 1700x which closes the price gap. You'd end up with a better cooler than the stock one that comes with the R7 2700, but the R7 2700 is capable of slightly higher clock speeds than a 1700x if you're going to overclock. If you do decide to go with the 1700x, SilentiumPC cooler's do actually seem reasonably priced, so one of those might not be a bad shout;
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or this Be Quiet! cooer;
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Alternatively, if you want a cooler a little more flashy at the cost of some cooling performance;
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Lastly, I'd definitely be aiming for pretty much anything better than a 1080p monitor at this point. If that means grabbing an RX 580/590 over an RTX 2060 or something, then it'll probably be worth it.


Thank you for your help, I still have some questions, I hope you don't mind.

For the case, I will not lie, I don't really care that much about how it looks. Is there really such a big performance/size difference between those which you sent and the one I previously mentioned? Its over 100zl which is pretty big difference considering it is only a case.

PSU I suppose you gave me a better one which I appreciate.

For SSD, unless there is really a huge difference between the performance, I'd rather get the cheaper one. HDD will be probably added, but later I guess.

For the ram, I'd rather prefer it being in 2 modules instead of 4, since there might be a probablity that I will have to add some extra in the future. That leaves
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and the one I posted with a pretty big price difference (the one you sent is currently on sale, so it will get back to basic price pretty soon). Is the difference woth it?

I assume that the GPU that I posted should be pretty good then? From what I see it seems to be quite more powerful than the 580one, and since its one of the most expensive parts I'd rather not have to change it in the nearest future.

As for the processor, this is the part that aside from RAM I need the best performance from (based on the fact that I will focus on multiboxing). I don't really mind paying slightly more for it if the performance is there.
From what I understand with my pretty bad IT skills, R7 2700 seems to have smaller base speed than R7 1700 but can allow for higher overclocking, right? If then, the most important thing is its performance, with long times of high demand on it, what do you suggest? Getting the slightly more expensive 2700 and clocking it in the middle, or buying the 1700 and going max?
I assume that it would be safer to purchase additional cooling anyway, just to be safe?

The monitor is not an issue for the moment, depending on the amount of the cash I will be able to manage after the pc, I will just pick something up, perhaps even used ones, so lets just ignore this topic for now.

Sorry that I asked so many questions, and sorry if I seem kinda negative, I really appreciate the time you spent helping me.
Its just that cash is pretty tight at the moment, and the performance for multiboxing is really important for me since it will probably be my only job for a while now, hence aesthetics and other elements can be slightly worse, and cheaper ones (with options for upgrade in the future), as long as the power for multiboxing is there.

Once again, Thank you!
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Lembaspl wrote For the case, I will not lie, I don't really care that much about how it looks. Is there really such a big performance/size difference between those which you sent and the one I previously mentioned? Its over 100zl which is pretty big difference considering it is only a case.

Other than the components you'll be able to fit in a case, no, you absolutely won't see any performance difference between cases. However, super cheapo budget cases are substantially lower quality, and that will absolutely be noticeable. The Eclipse P350x and NZXT H500 are both still fairly budget cases that you can easily fit within the budget, but they're of reasonable quality. Also, when you think about it, a 100zl increase in price with your budget, is a 2% increase in price of the system overall, definitely worth it IMO.

Lembaspl wrote PSU I suppose you gave me a better one which I appreciate.

The Corsair Vengeance PSU's have no right being as good or as cheap as they are tbh, so yeah that's definitely what I'd be getting, especially since it's semi-modular too. You could potentially save a little money here, but almost definitely not going to be worth it, PSU is one of the most important parts of your PC IMO.

Lembaspl wrote For SSD, unless there is really a huge difference between the performance, I'd rather get the cheaper one. HDD will be probably added, but later I guess.

It's not really about performance at this point. SATA 3 SSDs are all going to be around 500-550MBps read and write speeds, so yeah now-a-days you aren't actually going to notice much performance difference between any SATA 3 SSD's. That said, the 860 EVO is going to be faster than cheaper drives(just probably not that noticeable, if at all). The main reason for getting a better, more expensive SSD though, is endurance, not speeds. An 860 EVO will last longer than any of the cheapo SSD's you find, and has a longer warranty. That's why I'd get the 860 EVO over a cheap 480-512GB SSD. However, like I said, Crucial BX500 is a fine option, so if you'd just rather save the money, go for it.

Lembaspl wrote For the ram, I'd rather prefer it being in 2 modules instead of 4, since there might be a probablity that I will have to add some extra in the future. That leaves
https://www.morele.net/pamiec-g-skill-sniper-x-ddr4-32gb-3000mhz-cl16-f4-3000c16d-32gsxwb-1762915/
and the one I posted with a pretty big price difference (the one you sent is currently on sale, so it will get back to basic price pretty soon). Is the difference woth it?

Just get whichever 3000/3200MHz 2x16GB kit you can find that is the cheapest, and you don't hate the look of. The G.Skill Aegus stuff is just ugly, cheapo RAM but it's not like it won't do the job, so yeah it'll do fine.

Lembaspl wrote I assume that the GPU that I posted should be pretty good then? From what I see it seems to be quite more powerful than the 580one, and since its one of the most expensive parts I'd rather not have to change it in the nearest future.

Yeah, if you're wanting an 8GB card, then RX 590 seems to be fine. Same price as the 8GB RX 580s(in Poland at least) for essentially the same performance. I would definitely be aiming for an RTX 2060 instead at this point, but an RX 590 is nothing to sneeze at. Oh, it also might be worth noting that it seems almost confirmed at this point that Nvidia are launching a GTX "1660Ti" on February 15th, which should offer better performance than an RX 590 still, but at a price more similar to the RX 590 than an RTX 2060.

Lembaspl wrote As for the processor, this is the part that aside from RAM I need the best performance from (based on the fact that I will focus on multiboxing). I don't really mind paying slightly more for it if the performance is there.
From what I understand with my pretty bad IT skills, R7 2700 seems to have smaller base speed than R7 1700 but can allow for higher overclocking, right? If then, the most important thing is its performance, with long times of high demand on it, what do you suggest? Getting the slightly more expensive 2700 and clocking it in the middle, or buying the 1700 and going max?
I assume that it would be safer to purchase additional cooling anyway, just to be safe?

Yeah, so if you're running at stock speeds, the base and boost clocks are pretty similar. The R7 2700 is capable of hitting 4.1-4.2GHz without much trouble when you overclock it, whereas the 1700(x) will cap out around 4GHz. I have a 1700x myself, and love it. The 2700 is going to be slightly better, but honestly I'd probably just save some cash and get the 1700x, especially if you'll be buying an aftermarket cooler anyway because the price difference is fairly large for such a small performance difference. Yes, if you went with the 2700, you could still buy an aftermarket cooler for it. AMD are launching Ryzen 3000 in the middle of this year which will bring 12 and 16 core CPU's to the mainstream AM4 platform, so if you wanted, you could swap the 1700x/2700 for an 8, 12 or 16 core Ryzen 3000 CPU in the future. Also, Ryzen 3000 will definitely be capable of higher clock speeds than an R7 2700.
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21 wrote Other than the components you'll be able to fit in a case, no, you absolutely won't see any performance difference between cases. However, super cheapo budget cases are substantially lower quality, and that will absolutely be noticeable. The Eclipse P350x and NZXT H500 are both still fairly budget cases that you can easily fit within the budget, but they're of reasonable quality. Also, when you think about it, a 100zl increase in price with your budget, is a 2% increase in price of the system overall, definitely worth it IMO.

Thank you again and sorry that I took me so long to reply.
Based on your advices and the previous PC I created the following one:

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I have changed PSU, SSD and motherboard.
Based on my needs and priorities I chose the rest similarily to the first offer.
If you could please answer some more of my questions then I would be really thankfull:
1. Is the cheaper case (the one in the link) able to fit all the parts from the list? Would I be able to add DVD drive there without problems? I would prefer this cheap one, but if there really isn't any other options I might go for the more expensive ones.
2. Ignoring looks, can the RAM be this one? Its the cheapest one so far so I'm fine with its looks.
3. I decided on the R7 2700, because if there is a need for stronger power I can boost it slightly higher than R7 1700 instead of changing it to the stronger one. Is that ok?
4. Is the cooling ok? Should I buy any other cooling stuff?
5. IF the shop doesn't have the motherboard that you suggested, or if the price / cash availability changed drastically, would going back to the first one be bad idea? Or the performance is so much better that it is worth to keep it? I'd rather prefer yours over the old one, but lets just ask just in case.
6. Overall, do you think that those parts will work well together? I would really not want them to fail just because they don't fit well together.
7. Do I need to buy anything else for the assembly process? Cables or anything along those lines?

Once again, thank you for your help!
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Lembaspl wrote 1. Is the cheaper case (the one in the link) able to fit all the parts from the list? Would I be able to add DVD drive there without problems? I would prefer this cheap one, but if there really isn't any other options I might go for the more expensive ones.

Yes, the cheaper case will work, it's just fairly significantly lower quality as I said. Not entirely sure if that case supports a 5.25" drive, it looks like it does but I'm not 100%. The P350x and H500 don't have a 5.25" bay so you wouldn't be able to use an internal optical drive. You can however just use an external optical drive if necessary, so I wouldn't be too fussed about that.

Lembaspl wrote 2. Ignoring looks, can the RAM be this one? Its the cheapest one so far so I'm fine with its looks.

Yeah, the G.Skill Aegis stuff will work fine. If you don't care about the looks at all, just go with that.

Lembaspl wrote 3. I decided on the R7 2700, because if there is a need for stronger power I can boost it slightly higher than R7 1700 instead of changing it to the stronger one. Is that ok?

Well, if you're just looking to save money, like you are with the SSD, case, and RAM then you might as well save the 300zl and get the R7 1700x instead of the R7 2700. You wouldn't need to change to "the stronger one" with a 1700x lol. If you overclock, you're looking at about 4GHz on the 1700x vs 4.2GHz on the 2700. If you don't overclock, the 1700x will perform slightly better in multi-threaded situations and the 2700 will be slightly better in single threaded situations.

Lembaspl wrote 4. Is the cooling ok? Should I buy any other cooling stuff?

CPU cooler is fine. Not sure if that cheap case comes with any fans, so you might need to buy a couple of cheap case fans but those shouldn't add much cost, if necessary.

Lembaspl wrote 5. IF the shop doesn't have the motherboard that you suggested, or if the price / cash availability changed drastically, would going back to the first one be bad idea? Or the performance is so much better that it is worth to keep it? I'd rather prefer yours over the old one, but lets just ask just in case.

The Gigabyte X470 boards aren't great, but if they're all that's available for a decent price then they'll do the job. Though, it might be worth looking at alternative motherboards if the Asus Prime X470-Pro is not available.

Lembaspl wrote 6. Overall, do you think that those parts will work well together? I would really not want them to fail just because they don't fit well together.

Yup, will all work fine together.

Lembaspl wrote 7. Do I need to buy anything else for the assembly process? Cables or anything along those lines?

Other than a screwdriver, you shouldn't really need anything.
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