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-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


So you think a good game vs Bradford is enough to get a place in the first team?

To be honest, substitute appearances in the league and good performances in training are much better indicators than games against lower opposition.

Schwarzer got a start before for performing well in training


Remy came on the other day in the leauge and scored - Now is 3RD choice , So obviously he doesent judge it on the BPL either.

Also dont think he is judging much on training , Espically now with the games being so close he has already picked his team for the next game without taking training into account i would imagine and with games being a few days apart sometimes the team doesent even train.
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CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
Brad- wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


So you think a good game vs Bradford is enough to get a place in the first team?

To be honest, substitute appearances in the league and good performances in training are much better indicators than games against lower opposition.

Schwarzer got a start before for performing well in training


Remy came on the other day in the leauge and scored - Now is 3RD choice , So obviously he doesent judge it on the BPL either.

Also dont think he is judging much on training , Espically now with the games being so close he has already picked his team for the next game without taking training into account i would imagine and with games being a few days apart sometimes the team doesent even train.


To be honest, thinking about it he doesn't seem to be judging the team on anything but rather just picking his main team and only changing to account for fitness.

I think Remy should be second choice but perhaps Mourinho prefers having Drogba's presence.

If he doesn't take training in to account or BPL games, why would he take cup games vs weak opposition in to account?
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OhDiegoCosta wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
Brad- wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


So you think a good game vs Bradford is enough to get a place in the first team?

To be honest, substitute appearances in the league and good performances in training are much better indicators than games against lower opposition.

Schwarzer got a start before for performing well in training


Remy came on the other day in the leauge and scored - Now is 3RD choice , So obviously he doesent judge it on the BPL either.

Also dont think he is judging much on training , Espically now with the games being so close he has already picked his team for the next game without taking training into account i would imagine and with games being a few days apart sometimes the team doesent even train.


To be honest, thinking about it he doesn't seem to be judging the team on anything but rather just picking his main team and only changing to account for fitness.

I think Remy should be second choice but perhaps Mourinho prefers having Drogba's presence.

If he doesn't take training in to account or BPL games, why would he take cup games vs weak opposition in to account?


Well the reasoning for that would be the fact that the guys barely get chance in the BPL , Atleast they get a chance in the cups , But as i pointed out even if you come on in the BPL and score your still not anywhere near first choice.

Honestly what you said about "He is just picking his main team and only changing due to fitness" is true i think (But sometimes guys are low on fitness and they still play) , Maybe the fringe players knowtice this and give less effort because they know it wont help?
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CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
Brad- wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


So you think a good game vs Bradford is enough to get a place in the first team?

To be honest, substitute appearances in the league and good performances in training are much better indicators than games against lower opposition.

Schwarzer got a start before for performing well in training


Remy came on the other day in the leauge and scored - Now is 3RD choice , So obviously he doesent judge it on the BPL either.

Also dont think he is judging much on training , Espically now with the games being so close he has already picked his team for the next game without taking training into account i would imagine and with games being a few days apart sometimes the team doesent even train.


To be honest, thinking about it he doesn't seem to be judging the team on anything but rather just picking his main team and only changing to account for fitness.

I think Remy should be second choice but perhaps Mourinho prefers having Drogba's presence.

If he doesn't take training in to account or BPL games, why would he take cup games vs weak opposition in to account?


Well the reasoning for that would be the fact that the guys barely get chance in the BPL , Atleast they get a chance in the cups , But as i pointed out even if you come on in the BPL and score your still not anywhere near first choice.

Honestly what you said about "He is just picking his main team and only changing due to fitness" is true i think (But sometimes guys are low on fitness and they still play) , Maybe the fringe players knowtice this and give less effort because they know it wont help?


It's understandable in the league because every time we play a weakened team, we drop points.

I think from next season, it would be worth establishing a cup team where our fringe players consistently play. We do rotate at the moment for cups but there's no consistency in terms of the lineup. If we let our fringe players play our system regularly in the cup, maybe this type of result won't happen again
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CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
Brad- wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


It was that game that players like Salah should be dominating. If he can't do it at home to a league 1 side, when is he ever going to?
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Brad- wrote
CompleteDesigns wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
Brad- wrote
OhDiegoCosta wrote
-Torres wrote Well that Chelsea game was just horrid, to be fair cech could have saved some I think and I really don't see the point in Mourinho even playing Mikel he does nothing get Paul Pogba signed

Chelsea's move to strengthen their squad has taken a fresh twist after Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Douglas Costa confirmed they have made an offer to buy him, with the Blues reported to have bid 16million.

Also anyone heard about that?


Heard us linked with Douglas but what's the point us signing a player that doesn't improve our starting XI? He's probably not as good as Oscar and I'd rather Willian in RW.

If Cuardado doesn't want to come, we may as well keep the squad we've got and re-evaluate in the summer. No need to be rash and make changes for the sake of change


The game yesterday showed us that beyond our starting 11, we have nothing. We just can't rely on our fringe players...


I can't really say anything about the game because I couldn't watch it. I wouldn't say an FA Cup upset is representative of our fringe players' abilities though. These types of things happen all the time. I think we do need to bring in some players in the summer as backups but I'm not sure we could convince Costa to play backup, especially with Schurrle/Remy desperate for game-time. I guess we could sell Schurrle but I'd rather keep Schurrle and use him as a catalyst for the Reus deal.


So when are we supposed to judge our fringe players? - These guys barely get time and espically in the BPL , These are the games they should be thinking "Ive got a chance here" and using that to get into the BPL / first team


It was that game that players like Salah should be dominating. If he can't do it at home to a league 1 side, when is he ever going to?


In regards to Salah, he's probably on his way out. Hasn't adapted to the physical side of the game at all and just doesn't have the ability to cope at this level. He should have used Hazard as an example. Came in with a tonne of ability, got targeted by opponents and now has the strength to hold his own.
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Well I reckon he'll do the same as Van Gaal in a way. Since MK Dons, only two of the players who started have featured at all since.
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Fielding wrote Well I reckon he'll do the same as Van Gaal in a way. Since MK Dons, only two of the players who started have featured at all since.


As he should. If they can't win at home to Bradford, they don't deserve to be in our squad at all.
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Fielding wrote Well I reckon he'll do the same as Van Gaal in a way. Since MK Dons, only two of the players who started have featured at all since.


As he should. If they can't win at home to Bradford, they don't deserve to be in our squad at all.


Maybe it could be a serious lesson to the players. It could actually be a benefit to your team losing to them. More time to focus on winning the prem and the champs. One more likely than the other admittedly but the FA cup isn't a trophy quite like the Prem or the Champs.

And of course, you can now see the level of your bench players. We played out youngsters and reserves against MK and only two featured since (Evans and De Gea). Shows the managers who's ready to play and not.
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The FA cup lost its' prestige when Arsenal won it anyway...
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