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OpenIV shutting down -"The day modding was declared illegal"
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Hey all, just in case some of you were unaware, OpenIV received a letter from Take-Two about their modding application and it is now illegal to distribute.
It's very unfortunate but if you click on their site, I believe there is a link to a change.org petition to keep it alive.
"We feared that this day would come And now its here.
The day, when GTA modding was declared illegal.
GTA modding had long and glorious history.
Since GTA III, people have created lots of different mods: from simple texture replacements to impressive full conversions.
And the modding always was a gray zone a battlefield between lawyers and PR
For almost ten years of OpenIV development, we had tried to play as nice as possible and even more:
Strictly following of Civil Code of Russia (only reverse engineering for interoperability).
Only clean-room reverse engineering.
No distribution of original data and code.
And absolutely no messing with Online
On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter.
It clearly says, that with OpenIV we allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Twos rights.
Yes, this letter is illiterate both technically and grammatically (really, they dont even bothered with proof-reading the text).
Yes, we can go to court and yet again prove that modding is fair use and our actions are legal.
Yes, we could. But we decided not to.
Going to court will take at least few months of our time and huge amount of efforts, and, at best, well get absolutely nothing.
Spending time just to restore status quo is really unproductive, and all the money in the world cant compensate the loss of time.
So, we decided to agree with their claims and were stopping distribution of OpenIV.
It was a hard decision, but when any modding activity has been declared illegal, we cant see any possibilities to continue this process,
unless top management of Take-Two company makes an official statement about modding, which can be used in court.
Discuss on GTAForums
With many thanks for all modding community for all your fantastic creations,
OpenIV team.
So long, and thanks for all the fish."
(Quote from OpenIV) - [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
It's very unfortunate but if you click on their site, I believe there is a link to a change.org petition to keep it alive.
"We feared that this day would come And now its here.
The day, when GTA modding was declared illegal.
GTA modding had long and glorious history.
Since GTA III, people have created lots of different mods: from simple texture replacements to impressive full conversions.
And the modding always was a gray zone a battlefield between lawyers and PR
For almost ten years of OpenIV development, we had tried to play as nice as possible and even more:
Strictly following of Civil Code of Russia (only reverse engineering for interoperability).
Only clean-room reverse engineering.
No distribution of original data and code.
And absolutely no messing with Online
On June 5th, 2017, we had received an official Cease-and-Desist letter.
It clearly says, that with OpenIV we allow third parties to defeat security features of its software and modify that software in violation Take-Twos rights.
Yes, this letter is illiterate both technically and grammatically (really, they dont even bothered with proof-reading the text).
Yes, we can go to court and yet again prove that modding is fair use and our actions are legal.
Yes, we could. But we decided not to.
Going to court will take at least few months of our time and huge amount of efforts, and, at best, well get absolutely nothing.
Spending time just to restore status quo is really unproductive, and all the money in the world cant compensate the loss of time.
So, we decided to agree with their claims and were stopping distribution of OpenIV.
It was a hard decision, but when any modding activity has been declared illegal, we cant see any possibilities to continue this process,
unless top management of Take-Two company makes an official statement about modding, which can be used in court.
Discuss on GTAForums
With many thanks for all modding community for all your fantastic creations,
OpenIV team.
So long, and thanks for all the fish."
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Kind of pathetic if you ask me. What's so wrong with people adding or replacing cars, textures, map add-ons etc in single player. Very rarely would I come across anyone with mods online on GTA, at least on PC anyway, shame the same couldn't be said with last-gen consoles. Even at that, there was servers like FiveM which allowed people to play online with added and replaced cars with the risk of a ban. That being said I mainly stuck to single player messing around with custom cars and things like the v-stancer mod. Hopefully the petition gets enough people on-board. There was talk of YouTubers boycotting and refusing to make videos on GTA V giving it less attention, sure there might still be smaller channels posting GTA videos, but if enough of the larger channels just stop it might be enough for them to reconsider.
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EG6 wrote Kind of pathetic if you ask me. What's so wrong with people adding or replacing cars, textures, map add-ons etc in single player. Very rarely would I come across anyone with mods online on GTA, at least on PC anyway, shame the same couldn't be said with last-gen consoles. Even at that, there was servers like FiveM which allowed people to play online with added and replaced cars with the risk of a ban. That being said I mainly stuck to single player messing around with custom cars and things like the v-stancer mod. Hopefully the petition gets enough people on-board. There was talk of YouTubers boycotting and refusing to make videos on GTA V giving it less attention, sure there might still be smaller channels posting GTA videos, but if enough of the larger channels just stop it might be enough for them to reconsider.I completely agree with you there. Some member are even thinking of protesting! It's a real shame that this has happened and it's affected a lot of people so much, especially Machinima apparently!
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