Pro's and cons really.

Pros is the trade that's been in place for ages, and the alliance with the majority of Europe. But i do also agree that there needs to be more independence, and stringent measures put in place on our borders. NO, not saying we need to "shut all the immigrants out", i'm saying we need to follow in the footsteps of countries like Australia, who make people need a reason or contribution to the country allowed in, allowing the economy to recovery and thrive.

I'm proud to live in such a free country, and proud to call us a country that does have such a concentrated social difference, it's what make the UK a unique country in it's own right. However, it is the UK? Surely it should be looking after it's own slightly more than other countries people?

Instead of trying to leave the EU, i believe that the government, needs to sit down and look hard, VERY HARD, at the benefits system, to me, this is an area that should be of greater concern to the public and the government.

I'm voting to stay, most of the people voting to leave are only worrying about immigration.

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about June 23rd, and people want to know the facts. Here are some:

You are not voting to leave the EEA or WTO, meaning all of the UK's trade and benefit agreements will remain unchanged should we leave, until such a time that the UK decides to renegotiate them for any reason.

You are not voting to leave NATO, meaning our security agreements remain unchanged. Should we receive an act of hostility from a non-NATO member, then NATO countries are obliged to come to our assistance. This does not change.

You are not voting to leave the UN, G8 or G20, meaning Britain will have the same voice on the world stage as it does today.

You are not voting to leave Europe!! The UK will still, geographically, be part of Europe. Non political organisations aligned to Europe will still extend membership to the UK (I.e. sports governing bodies, and so on).

You are not voting to stop recognising Interpol, Europol and neither are you voting for SIS / MI6 to stop dealing with other intelligence services in the fight against terrorism and global, organised crime.

You are not voting against being able to travel to Europe, contrary to the belief of some fools recently on TV. The UK has always maintained stricter border and passport controls than many EU members. This will not change. You will still use a passport to go on holiday and you will still be allowed entry to countries in Europe. You may even get chance to skip queues by using the non--EU queues at the airport.

The UK economy will benefit to the tune of £billions in the first year after we leave.

Medical and science research will not simply stop. The UK pays into the EU to then get money back in the form of funding. The UK will now be in control of this money and can choose to fund whatever UK based medical, science, art or other research it chooses.

Farming will not lose money because of EU funding being cut. The UK negotiated a rebate of some monies that the UK pays to the EU, in order to subsidise UK farmers. Instead of asking for our money back, we can give it straight to farmers. No change there.

You are not voting against human rights. The EU Convention and European Court of Human Rights are not part of the EU. Until parliament passes a new bill of rights for the UK, these will still apply, as will precedents already passed down to UK courts from Brussels.

You are not voting to kick anyone out of the UK or block access to anyone. Neither are you voting to stop recruiting valuable European workers into things like the NHS. Like my other point about passports for travel, the UK is already outside of the Schengen zone and so migrant workers must enter the UK with a valid passport before and after June 23rd. That will not change. British borders maintain full control of who comes and goes. Should someone have the skills to apply to work in the NHS, then they will still be permitted travel and given an opportunity to apply for a job. Worst case, points based assessment, like the US, Canada and Australia use, will come into effect. The UK is likely to negotiate freedom of labour movement though, in exchange for freedom of goods movement.

You are not voting to move jobs nor production out of the UK! The EU actually helped fund the move of Ford Transit production from the UK to Turkey... Yes, the EU helped give UK jobs to people in Turkey by giving Ford a loan of £80m with very generous terms!

What you are voting for is UK sovereignty. You are voting to stay in or leave a political union of leaders and representatives that you British people did not elect. You are voting against a commission of unelected, elite men that nobody at all voted for and yet they make decisions on our behalf. You are simply voting to bring sovereignty back to Westminster, and that is all. If you worry about that because you don't like the Conservative government, look at the reality. Their majority in parliament is very slim. They have been blocked on big decisions already. You are therefore not giving sovereignty to David Cameron, but to the UK House of elected representatives. Do not be fooled by the fear campaigns that are simply run by the wealthy, who need EU money to thrive! Think about the future, and your family's future.

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There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding about June 23rd, and people want to know the facts. Here are some:

You are not voting to leave the EEA or WTO, meaning all of the UK's trade and benefit agreements will remain unchanged should we leave, until such a time that the UK decides to renegotiate them for any reason.

You are not voting to leave NATO, meaning our security agreements remain unchanged. Should we receive an act of hostility from a non-NATO member, then NATO countries are obliged to come to our assistance. This does not change.

You are not voting to leave the UN, G8 or G20, meaning Britain will have the same voice on the world stage as it does today.

You are not voting to leave Europe!! The UK will still, geographically, be part of Europe. Non political organisations aligned to Europe will still extend membership to the UK (I.e. sports governing bodies, and so on).

You are not voting to stop recognising Interpol, Europol and neither are you voting for SIS / MI6 to stop dealing with other intelligence services in the fight against terrorism and global, organised crime.

You are not voting against being able to travel to Europe, contrary to the belief of some fools recently on TV. The UK has always maintained stricter border and passport controls than many EU members. This will not change. You will still use a passport to go on holiday and you will still be allowed entry to countries in Europe. You may even get chance to skip queues by using the non--EU queues at the airport.

The UK economy will benefit to the tune of £billions in the first year after we leave.

Medical and science research will not simply stop. The UK pays into the EU to then get money back in the form of funding. The UK will now be in control of this money and can choose to fund whatever UK based medical, science, art or other research it chooses.

Farming will not lose money because of EU funding being cut. The UK negotiated a rebate of some monies that the UK pays to the EU, in order to subsidise UK farmers. Instead of asking for our money back, we can give it straight to farmers. No change there.

You are not voting against human rights. The EU Convention and European Court of Human Rights are not part of the EU. Until parliament passes a new bill of rights for the UK, these will still apply, as will precedents already passed down to UK courts from Brussels.

You are not voting to kick anyone out of the UK or block access to anyone. Neither are you voting to stop recruiting valuable European workers into things like the NHS. Like my other point about passports for travel, the UK is already outside of the Schengen zone and so migrant workers must enter the UK with a valid passport before and after June 23rd. That will not change. British borders maintain full control of who comes and goes. Should someone have the skills to apply to work in the NHS, then they will still be permitted travel and given an opportunity to apply for a job. Worst case, points based assessment, like the US, Canada and Australia use, will come into effect. The UK is likely to negotiate freedom of labour movement though, in exchange for freedom of goods movement.

You are not voting to move jobs nor production out of the UK! The EU actually helped fund the move of Ford Transit production from the UK to Turkey... Yes, the EU helped give UK jobs to people in Turkey by giving Ford a loan of £80m with very generous terms!

What you are voting for is UK sovereignty. You are voting to stay in or leave a political union of leaders and representatives that you British people did not elect. You are voting against a commission of unelected, elite men that nobody at all voted for and yet they make decisions on our behalf. You are simply voting to bring sovereignty back to Westminster, and that is all. If you worry about that because you don't like the Conservative government, look at the reality. Their majority in parliament is very slim. They have been blocked on big decisions already. You are therefore not giving sovereignty to David Cameron, but to the UK House of elected representatives. Do not be fooled by the fear campaigns that are simply run by the wealthy, who need EU money to thrive! Think about the future, and your family's future.

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I have seen this as well on Facebook, there has certainly been a lot of confusion as to what exactly it is we are voting for. Some people will look at that and think it is biased towards leaving but it isn't, it actually allows people to make a clearer decision for themselves. This whole referendum campaign has been terrible because there is so much blackmail, lies and confusion being spread.

I ask people to read the shared post above to help gain a clearer idea of what exactly you are voting for.

I am personally voting to leave, we have already gained numerous benefits from being in the EU and they will stay with us but I don't see us currently gaining anything other than loss and it doesn't appear to be changing anytime soon. You can travel anywhere in the world no problem, countries will still trade as THEY can't afford to lose it. Money will be saved, the UK will become more democratic without these un-elected EU representatives making decisions without our permission. I have more reasons, I am sure other people have plenty of reasons for staying as well, at the end of the day don't let someone else tell you what to vote for, make your own decision and what you think is best.

I would definitely prefer to stay in the EU.

None of you lot who wish to remain have a clue. You are entitled to your opinions but there flawed. The EU costs us millions everyweek on supplement payouts. This country is already on its knees. The finacial sector is intertwined with corrut politicians and aides from EU states.
immigration / intergration dont work...small buisnesses get no say and no help.

Look leaving will really be the best thing to ever happen. We will control our own borders. BMW and other manufactures will always keep trading here. Jobs and manufacturing can be brought back in line. Our services like schooling hospitals etc etc will not have to bear the weighted burden. Housing eill again become available eventually due to less numbers coming in. Politicians will be forced to bow to the will of the people. Handouts can be used for our own infrastructure....

Get your heads outta the sand...

Why you think the politicians and bankers are so frightened of us leaving. They have been wrong before on their advice of whats best for us...

Heck the finacial crash was due to bankers / politicians being saddles up to cosy with each other. Why you think no one took a hit for that crisis. Shit if i fill out a tax forn wrong im persecuted....

Out!!!

DEATHSxMASTER wrote None of you lot who wish to remain have a clue. You are entitled to your opinions but there flawed. The EU costs us millions everyweek on supplement payouts. This country is already on its knees. The finacial sector is intertwined with corrut politicians and aides from EU states.
immigration / intergration dont work...small buisnesses get no say and no help.

Look leaving will really be the best thing to ever happen. We will control our own borders. BMW and other manufactures will always keep trading here. Jobs and manufacturing can be brought back in line. Our services like schooling hospitals etc etc will not have to bear the weighted burden. Housing eill again become available eventually due to less numbers coming in. Politicians will be forced to bow to the will of the people. Handouts can be used for our own infrastructure....

Get your heads outta the sand...

Why you think the politicians and bankers are so frightened of us leaving. They have been wrong before on their advice of whats best for us...

Heck the finacial crash was due to bankers / politicians being saddles up to cosy with each other. Why you think no one took a hit for that crisis. Shit if i fill out a tax forn wrong im persecuted....

Out!!!

No, we just live in a different location than you or have a different opinion.

For example, I live in Northern Ireland. Why the hell are we part of the UK? We do absolutely nothing for you and you pay us a huge amount of money per year for us to spend.

Now, if the UK leaves the EU then it will become independent and isolated. You can guarantee that Scotland will vote to have their independence too which could possibly lead to Wales leaving the UK also.

At this point, you will ask yourselves why are you paying for that little island that isn't even a part of Britain? And Ireland will become united, therefore funding will be cut and our whole country will collapse.

See the theory behind this? At the moment, funding to Northern Ireland is safe which keeps me happy, I'm obviously not going to vote to leave the EU if there is any risk at all to my well being.

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DEATHSxMASTER wrote None of you lot who wish to remain have a clue. You are entitled to your opinions but there flawed. The EU costs us millions everyweek on supplement payouts. This country is already on its knees. The finacial sector is intertwined with corrut politicians and aides from EU states.
immigration / intergration dont work...small buisnesses get no say and no help.

Look leaving will really be the best thing to ever happen. We will control our own borders. BMW and other manufactures will always keep trading here. Jobs and manufacturing can be brought back in line. Our services like schooling hospitals etc etc will not have to bear the weighted burden. Housing eill again become available eventually due to less numbers coming in. Politicians will be forced to bow to the will of the people. Handouts can be used for our own infrastructure....

Get your heads outta the sand...

Why you think the politicians and bankers are so frightened of us leaving. They have been wrong before on their advice of whats best for us...

Heck the finacial crash was due to bankers / politicians being saddles up to cosy with each other. Why you think no one took a hit for that crisis. Shit if i fill out a tax forn wrong im persecuted....

Out!!!

No, we just live in a different location than you or have a different opinion.

For example, I live in Northern Ireland. Why the hell are we part of the UK? We do absolutely nothing for you and you pay us a huge amount of money per year for us to spend.

Now, if the UK leaves the EU then it will become independent and isolated. You can guarantee that Scotland will vote to have their independence too which could possibly lead to Wales leaving the UK also.

At this point, you will ask yourselves why are you paying for that little island that isn't even a part of Britain? And Ireland will become united, therefore funding will be cut and our whole country will collapse.

See the theory behind this? At the moment, funding to Northern Ireland is safe which keeps me happy, I'm obviously not going to vote to leave the EU if there is any risk at all to my well being.

lmfao try upperknockbreda road belfast before you try call out locations lolol....half my famm live there whilst im UK. Its part of the british isles and i for one thing would love to help cover / sub the North. I have spent years back and forth to Nireland...and i for one know your just a young buck listening to young liberalist and scared of backing out. Ireland has been doing fine for years without the EU before it was established. The UK was a economic might years ago. The 70/80/90s where the best times since then hows your low payed job doing ya? Paramedics and trainers are untermench jobs (tho i 100% dont think that personally and respect your job) im merely stating fact!!! Pls dont think im hating on you or being negative but OUT is the only way forward....ask yourself this. You could turn down any job you wanted to years ago at top rates....25 years later and housing schooling hospitals are all worsening and whilst you struggle hard to grind your wage i was earning more 25 years ago so hows that for being better of when cost of living has gone up say around 400%

In my HONEST opinion by now paramedics should be on £300 a day+

lmfao try upperknockbreda road belfast before you try call out locations lolol....half my famm live there whilst im UK. Its part of the british isles and i for one thing would love to help cover / sub the North. I have spent years back and forth to Nireland...and i for one know your just a young buck listening to young liberalist and scared of backing out. Ireland has been doing fine for years without the EU before it was established. The UK was a economic might years ago. The 70/80/90s where the best times since then hows your low payed job doing ya? Paramedics and trainers are untermench jobs (tho i 100% dont think that personally and respect your job) im merely stating fact!!! Pls dont think im hating on you or being negative but OUT is the only way forward....ask yourself this. You could turn down any job you wanted to years ago at top rates....25 years later and housing schooling hospitals are all worsening and whilst you struggle hard to grind your wage i was earning more 25 years ago so hows that for being better of when cost of living has gone up say around 400%

Well, firstly I made these opinions of my own accord, I haven't listened to anything on the news because politics are completely pointless in my eyes. Secondly, yes. If this was twenty or thirty years ago I'd be earning far more. Mainly because Northern Ireland used to specialise in ship building and they were extremely good at it. That will never be the case again. The shipbuilding and steel firms have shut down and they wont be starting back up meaning that Northern Ireland has lost its biggest exporter.

As I said, I'm training to be a paramedic, I'm not quite there yet but I do it because I like to help people. The money is completely irrelevant to me otherwise I would be trying to be a doctor as opposed to a paramedic. I don't think you're being negative or hating.

In conclusion, I don't really care what happens. If we can leave the EU and Northern Ireland is exactly the same as before then great, I'm all for it but it's definitely a risk.