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Growing on Twitch? Unlikely?
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Twitch seems like its easier than YouTube but really its probably harder. on Twitch you have the 20% most popular streamers getting all the attention because they are top of the page while the 80% sit there with 2-0 viewers, Why watch a novice channel when the big people have everything they have and then some. Where as on YouTube your channel can slowly grow without doing anything basically as long as you have atleast 1 video. The problem I see on twitch is it seems like you could stream for an entire week and get 5 non chatting viewers join and leave all the time giving the feeling like you are making zero progress on building a community for yourself. You then question yourself thinking what you did wrong driving you slightly crazier than you already where, alot of people would recommend not looking at the viewer count and be yourself but that really doesn't help, out of the 80% non popular streamers atleast 40% of them stream exactly that way and look how far it got them. Choosing a game to stream is difficult because if its too popular you will probably be so low on the list nobody will ever see your channel let alone join it and leave it. Picking an unpopular game is basically the same thing, nobody will ever search the game up to see you stream it, then you have the magical games where you get high viewers with little streamers because it either is limited access or requires investing unreasonable amounts of money to play it and people watch because they are on the fence. You could do giveaways but its pretty sad having to resort to such tactics as its no different than paying money for bots, because you are paying money for viewers. It's just one big headache really, The main way to get popular is by being associated to popular people, either by a shoutout or a host, good luck getting one. I would say getting the first 20 stable viewers is the hardest part of twitch, after that you will eventually grow because you aren't far down the list and you don't scare away new people because there is actually some activity in the chat to keep a positive vibe in the stream. Whats your thoughts on Growing a Twitch stream?
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Twitch seems like its easier than YouTube but really its probably harder. on Twitch you have the 20% most popular streamers getting all the attention because they are top of the page while the 80% sit there with 2-0 viewers, Why watch a novice channel when the big people have everything they have and then some. Where as on YouTube your channel can slowly grow without doing anything basically as long as you have atleast 1 video. The problem I see on twitch is it seems like you could stream for an entire week and get 5 non chatting viewers join and leave all the time giving the feeling like you are making zero progress on building a community for yourself. You then question yourself thinking what you did wrong driving you slightly crazier than you already where, alot of people would recommend not looking at the viewer count and be yourself but that really doesn't help, out of the 80% non popular streamers atleast 40% of them stream exactly that way and look how far it got them. Choosing a game to stream is difficult because if its too popular you will probably be so low on the list nobody will ever see your channel let alone join it and leave it. Picking an unpopular game is basically the same thing, nobody will ever search the game up to see you stream it, then you have the magical games where you get high viewers with little streamers because it either is limited access or requires investing unreasonable amounts of money to play it and people watch because they are on the fence. You could do giveaways but its pretty sad having to resort to such tactics as its no different than paying money for bots, because you are paying money for viewers. It's just one big headache really, The main way to get popular is by being associated to popular people, either by a shoutout or a host, good luck getting one. I would say getting the first 20 stable viewers is the hardest part of twitch, after that you will eventually grow because you aren't far down the list and you don't scare away new people because there is actually some activity in the chat to keep a positive vibe in the stream. Whats your thoughts on Growing a Twitch stream?
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Well my "friend" I don't really like him I think he's a dick, but he started streaming not too long ago (around two months), mainly doing Clash of Clans streams and he's managed to get 1200+ followers, over £200 in donations and around 20+ views per stream and I hate him so much I find him extremely annoying I wouldn't say he's funny but I guess just stream what you like and maybe you'll get lucky like him
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It's all about the grind, views don't come in quickly. You got to work hard to get the viewers what you want. Yes I agree with you Twitch is easier than Youtube. It's a hard job to get into if you want a full time stream for Twitch not sure if you want that in your future of Twitch? Another thing to add you can't stream on different games becuase it stops your growth in a way. Just grind on one game and I bet you your growth will increase by far. GL!
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I was speaking with a fairly popular streamer on Twitch a while back on growth and viewership. He said the same thing once you have that 4-8 viewers you are way up the list compared to the 100+ channels that have between 0-4. Playing the "right" game is a key part to growth to, as you said, playing an old game is pointless in terms of growth, playing a new game is where the growth is mainly at as they are looking for someone to watch play the new games,
The new games may not have many big streamer as most are worried that they will loose viewers that aren't, so called, hardcore viewers and supports.
Basically if you are looking to get noticed I would start with a new game, ie playing on the day of release and streaming it.
Hope all goes well,
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The new games may not have many big streamer as most are worried that they will loose viewers that aren't, so called, hardcore viewers and supports.
Basically if you are looking to get noticed I would start with a new game, ie playing on the day of release and streaming it.
Hope all goes well,
-Sys
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