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002 wrote Let me go through this again. Why is trump a better idea than the others? One of the biggest issues is gun rights. While I don't believe our gun rights will never be taken away, presidents will try to take them, and it just wastes time and money, taking this country further down the hole. Trump not being against guns (as of now) won't be wasting that time and money.

Trump is also a successful business man. Look at what he turned "a small loan of a million dollars" into. Don't you think he can help this country out financially? Yes, this is a country and not a company, however he will have the financial background to know what ideas to invest time and money in.

Everyone seems to be focused on him saying only Americans belong in America, when it stems further than that. He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will.

Trump is focused on keeping, and making jobs here in America. Yes, this will make the upper class lose money, but it will help the middle class re-establish themselves which will make the upper class money again.

What is one thing that you hear a lot of in a political races? You might here the words super PACs, funding, etc. What is this? People buying out that person for their interest. People don't just hand out money. Here is why Rubio is a horrible idea. He is 100% bought out right now. Trump has the money to run by himself, for himself which means that no one is buying him out (though I'm sure he's not declining money, but the point is, he doesn't have to take the money so less people are buying him).

Yes, the guy has no filter, what's wrong with that? Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government? Right now our government is as transparent as wearing a welding mask at night with no light. Trump is like wearing sun glasses at night with no light. Not only that, but I'm sure without that filter, he's not for this political correctness BS. This is where retarded was the word we used, then it was mentally retarded, and after multiple terms I believe now we're at special needs?

Who is trump talking about? The middle class, the blue collar worker, us little people, what ever you want to call it. What are the others focused on? The established rich folk.

For all these people saying Trump isn't diplomatic, who was willing to sit at a table across from Putin and talk with him to understand his views? My mind might be escaping me, but I do believe that man was Trump. Not Rubio, not Sanders, and sure as hell not Clinton.

He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man. Not saying men are inferior, but you hear people (like Clinton) yelling and pitching a fit that women have it to hard and lets just hand them life on not just a silver platter, but a gold platter.

Keep in mind that we're not just voting for the person, but also their family. See how you hear about Michelle Obama a lot? That goes to the family. Melania is already accustom to the spot light, and would probably be a great candidate for women's health, The you have Ivanka. Again used to the spot light, but she is a GREAT role model. She is a mother and a thriving entrepreneur.

Every president is around arguably intelligent people to help them on most things. What is one thing they need to think on their feet by themselves on? Negotiations. Trump being a businessman, and a successful one at that, must be pretty good at the negotiations part.



This is all fine and dandy, but your vote means nothing. If you watch the news or stay up to date with politics, which I bet most people don't, you will be astonished to find that the state representatives are voting BEFORE the polls close. How can this be if they're using YOUR votes to represent the state? They're not, the elections are rigged. Hell, just look at the electoral college. This is where 538 electors "vote" for president. All states get an elector based on the number of voting citizens, but for the sake for time, lets just divide the US into the North, East and West (or 3 states). Both areas have exactly the same amount of voters. The East votes 47% of candidate A, and 53% for B. The west goes 61% for candidate A, and 39% for B. So now A has 108%, and B has 92% (just adding the full percentages for both, not dividing and re-adding). So now the North really like candidate B, so they vote 80% towards B, and 20% towards A. This means A now has 128%, and B has a whopping 172%, or dividing and re-adding, A has 42.6% of the total vote, and B has 57.3% of the total vote. Although candidate B has the popular vote, candidate A won in 2 states, so they have more electoral votes, which makes them president.


It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)


This can be said for any reason to vote for any president. Trump just has better promises and more means of fulfilling those promises.


That's my point. You didn't include his means of fulfilling those promises (his policy substance) so you're still no closer to convincing us to vote for Trump.


Who said he was trying to convince anyone to vote for Trump.
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Cavalry wrote
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Cavalry wrote
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Cavalry wrote
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Cavalry wrote
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002 wrote Let me go through this again. Why is trump a better idea than the others? One of the biggest issues is gun rights. While I don't believe our gun rights will never be taken away, presidents will try to take them, and it just wastes time and money, taking this country further down the hole. Trump not being against guns (as of now) won't be wasting that time and money.

Trump is also a successful business man. Look at what he turned "a small loan of a million dollars" into. Don't you think he can help this country out financially? Yes, this is a country and not a company, however he will have the financial background to know what ideas to invest time and money in.

Everyone seems to be focused on him saying only Americans belong in America, when it stems further than that. He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will.

Trump is focused on keeping, and making jobs here in America. Yes, this will make the upper class lose money, but it will help the middle class re-establish themselves which will make the upper class money again.

What is one thing that you hear a lot of in a political races? You might here the words super PACs, funding, etc. What is this? People buying out that person for their interest. People don't just hand out money. Here is why Rubio is a horrible idea. He is 100% bought out right now. Trump has the money to run by himself, for himself which means that no one is buying him out (though I'm sure he's not declining money, but the point is, he doesn't have to take the money so less people are buying him).

Yes, the guy has no filter, what's wrong with that? Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government? Right now our government is as transparent as wearing a welding mask at night with no light. Trump is like wearing sun glasses at night with no light. Not only that, but I'm sure without that filter, he's not for this political correctness BS. This is where retarded was the word we used, then it was mentally retarded, and after multiple terms I believe now we're at special needs?

Who is trump talking about? The middle class, the blue collar worker, us little people, what ever you want to call it. What are the others focused on? The established rich folk.

For all these people saying Trump isn't diplomatic, who was willing to sit at a table across from Putin and talk with him to understand his views? My mind might be escaping me, but I do believe that man was Trump. Not Rubio, not Sanders, and sure as hell not Clinton.

He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man. Not saying men are inferior, but you hear people (like Clinton) yelling and pitching a fit that women have it to hard and lets just hand them life on not just a silver platter, but a gold platter.

Keep in mind that we're not just voting for the person, but also their family. See how you hear about Michelle Obama a lot? That goes to the family. Melania is already accustom to the spot light, and would probably be a great candidate for women's health, The you have Ivanka. Again used to the spot light, but she is a GREAT role model. She is a mother and a thriving entrepreneur.

Every president is around arguably intelligent people to help them on most things. What is one thing they need to think on their feet by themselves on? Negotiations. Trump being a businessman, and a successful one at that, must be pretty good at the negotiations part.



This is all fine and dandy, but your vote means nothing. If you watch the news or stay up to date with politics, which I bet most people don't, you will be astonished to find that the state representatives are voting BEFORE the polls close. How can this be if they're using YOUR votes to represent the state? They're not, the elections are rigged. Hell, just look at the electoral college. This is where 538 electors "vote" for president. All states get an elector based on the number of voting citizens, but for the sake for time, lets just divide the US into the North, East and West (or 3 states). Both areas have exactly the same amount of voters. The East votes 47% of candidate A, and 53% for B. The west goes 61% for candidate A, and 39% for B. So now A has 108%, and B has 92% (just adding the full percentages for both, not dividing and re-adding). So now the North really like candidate B, so they vote 80% towards B, and 20% towards A. This means A now has 128%, and B has a whopping 172%, or dividing and re-adding, A has 42.6% of the total vote, and B has 57.3% of the total vote. Although candidate B has the popular vote, candidate A won in 2 states, so they have more electoral votes, which makes them president.


It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)


This can be said for any reason to vote for any president. Trump just has better promises and more means of fulfilling those promises.


That's my point. You didn't include his means of fulfilling those promises (his policy substance) so you're still no closer to convincing us to vote for Trump.


One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y. The simple fact is, he has a better promise than the rest, and better means of fulfilling that promise.


Do you not see how you have just demolished your own point?
If we can't trust any of what the candidates say before they become president then you can't say that you're voting for Trump because he will let you keep your guns.

You can't say that 'He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will. '
You can't say that 'He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man.'

You can't say, 'Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government?' because Trump might be using his lack of political correctness as a campaign trick.

A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions, Trump does the former very well.


Ahh, but you are failing to see the whole point. Clinton and them are FOCUSING on things that can't happen like taking away guns. This wastes time and money. Trump on the other hand is already proving he's not wasting the time to beat a dead horse. You really don't see the point I'm making do you? By what your trying to say, I get that you believe we should just roll the dice and vote for who ever it lands on, because everyone can say one thing and do another, so you might as well vote for who looks better. It goes beyond that. Perhaps you should stay out of the world of politics, or do more in-depth research.


By your own logic you are the one saying that we can't know what a politician is going to do. You said that. You would be the one likely to roll a dice and vote for whoever it lands on. I'm the one saying that you should vote for whoever you agree with on policy but also the person with a plan for how they are going to implement that policy.

You: One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y.

Me: A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions.

So how you have concluded that I think we should just roll a dice to decide who we vote for I do not know.

You didn't include how Trump plans to implement his policy. That either means that you don't know or you don't think it's important enough to consider when making a decision on who you are going to vote for.

And yet you have the gall to say that I should stay out of politics? It is fascinating that you feel as though you can endorse a candidate by saying everything he plans to do without telling us how he is going to do it and then say that people who question you just don't know enough about politics.

Promises mean a lot less when you aren't told the method by which they are going to be achieved.

And to say that other candidates are focusing on things which can't be changed is just willfully ignorant. Especially considering the candidate you have endorsed wants to change the Geneva Conventions. You really don't want to be telling people to stay out of the world of politics when you support a candidate who wants to break laws made by politicians.


Woah there cow boy, step back another page and look at what you said. "It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)"

Do you know why I didn't include that? Because this is a tech website full of kids. Had this been an actual website full of INFORMED adults who could vote, I would've. This however, it a site full of kids, a lot of whom are not even residing in the USA. Don't mistake my reasoning for voting for someone with my telling to vote for this person. If you like my reasoning, look more into it, but I'm not here to teach you for free.


You felt the need to explain why people should like Trump above other candidates when they are all kids who can't vote? It sounds to me like you don't know how Trump intends to follow through on all of his promises and are now just trying to back your way out of a corner. You could easily prove me wrong by telling me how he intends to do what he says he will do.

You've had two pages to do that since I first asked.

Inb4: "You obviously aren't well informed."
If you want to come onto a site to discuss politics with a bunch of kids then you should be prepared to explain things to them, otherwise you look just as uninformed as the rest of us simpletons.


You have a hard time reading, don't you. Go back and read what I made larger, and striked out. I simply wrote MY reasons as to why I think trump would be the best candidate, by no means am I telling you that this is why YOU should vote for him. If you cannot understand this from everything I have written, you will have a hard time understanding my reasonings (in Trumps words) as to how he'll fulfill his promises.
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Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote Let me go through this again. Why is trump a better idea than the others? One of the biggest issues is gun rights. While I don't believe our gun rights will never be taken away, presidents will try to take them, and it just wastes time and money, taking this country further down the hole. Trump not being against guns (as of now) won't be wasting that time and money.

Trump is also a successful business man. Look at what he turned "a small loan of a million dollars" into. Don't you think he can help this country out financially? Yes, this is a country and not a company, however he will have the financial background to know what ideas to invest time and money in.

Everyone seems to be focused on him saying only Americans belong in America, when it stems further than that. He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will.

Trump is focused on keeping, and making jobs here in America. Yes, this will make the upper class lose money, but it will help the middle class re-establish themselves which will make the upper class money again.

What is one thing that you hear a lot of in a political races? You might here the words super PACs, funding, etc. What is this? People buying out that person for their interest. People don't just hand out money. Here is why Rubio is a horrible idea. He is 100% bought out right now. Trump has the money to run by himself, for himself which means that no one is buying him out (though I'm sure he's not declining money, but the point is, he doesn't have to take the money so less people are buying him).

Yes, the guy has no filter, what's wrong with that? Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government? Right now our government is as transparent as wearing a welding mask at night with no light. Trump is like wearing sun glasses at night with no light. Not only that, but I'm sure without that filter, he's not for this political correctness BS. This is where retarded was the word we used, then it was mentally retarded, and after multiple terms I believe now we're at special needs?

Who is trump talking about? The middle class, the blue collar worker, us little people, what ever you want to call it. What are the others focused on? The established rich folk.

For all these people saying Trump isn't diplomatic, who was willing to sit at a table across from Putin and talk with him to understand his views? My mind might be escaping me, but I do believe that man was Trump. Not Rubio, not Sanders, and sure as hell not Clinton.

He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man. Not saying men are inferior, but you hear people (like Clinton) yelling and pitching a fit that women have it to hard and lets just hand them life on not just a silver platter, but a gold platter.

Keep in mind that we're not just voting for the person, but also their family. See how you hear about Michelle Obama a lot? That goes to the family. Melania is already accustom to the spot light, and would probably be a great candidate for women's health, The you have Ivanka. Again used to the spot light, but she is a GREAT role model. She is a mother and a thriving entrepreneur.

Every president is around arguably intelligent people to help them on most things. What is one thing they need to think on their feet by themselves on? Negotiations. Trump being a businessman, and a successful one at that, must be pretty good at the negotiations part.



This is all fine and dandy, but your vote means nothing. If you watch the news or stay up to date with politics, which I bet most people don't, you will be astonished to find that the state representatives are voting BEFORE the polls close. How can this be if they're using YOUR votes to represent the state? They're not, the elections are rigged. Hell, just look at the electoral college. This is where 538 electors "vote" for president. All states get an elector based on the number of voting citizens, but for the sake for time, lets just divide the US into the North, East and West (or 3 states). Both areas have exactly the same amount of voters. The East votes 47% of candidate A, and 53% for B. The west goes 61% for candidate A, and 39% for B. So now A has 108%, and B has 92% (just adding the full percentages for both, not dividing and re-adding). So now the North really like candidate B, so they vote 80% towards B, and 20% towards A. This means A now has 128%, and B has a whopping 172%, or dividing and re-adding, A has 42.6% of the total vote, and B has 57.3% of the total vote. Although candidate B has the popular vote, candidate A won in 2 states, so they have more electoral votes, which makes them president.


It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)


This can be said for any reason to vote for any president. Trump just has better promises and more means of fulfilling those promises.


That's my point. You didn't include his means of fulfilling those promises (his policy substance) so you're still no closer to convincing us to vote for Trump.


One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y. The simple fact is, he has a better promise than the rest, and better means of fulfilling that promise.


Do you not see how you have just demolished your own point?
If we can't trust any of what the candidates say before they become president then you can't say that you're voting for Trump because he will let you keep your guns.

You can't say that 'He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will. '
You can't say that 'He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man.'

You can't say, 'Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government?' because Trump might be using his lack of political correctness as a campaign trick.

A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions, Trump does the former very well.


Ahh, but you are failing to see the whole point. Clinton and them are FOCUSING on things that can't happen like taking away guns. This wastes time and money. Trump on the other hand is already proving he's not wasting the time to beat a dead horse. You really don't see the point I'm making do you? By what your trying to say, I get that you believe we should just roll the dice and vote for who ever it lands on, because everyone can say one thing and do another, so you might as well vote for who looks better. It goes beyond that. Perhaps you should stay out of the world of politics, or do more in-depth research.


By your own logic you are the one saying that we can't know what a politician is going to do. You said that. You would be the one likely to roll a dice and vote for whoever it lands on. I'm the one saying that you should vote for whoever you agree with on policy but also the person with a plan for how they are going to implement that policy.

You: One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y.

Me: A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions.

So how you have concluded that I think we should just roll a dice to decide who we vote for I do not know.

You didn't include how Trump plans to implement his policy. That either means that you don't know or you don't think it's important enough to consider when making a decision on who you are going to vote for.

And yet you have the gall to say that I should stay out of politics? It is fascinating that you feel as though you can endorse a candidate by saying everything he plans to do without telling us how he is going to do it and then say that people who question you just don't know enough about politics.

Promises mean a lot less when you aren't told the method by which they are going to be achieved.

And to say that other candidates are focusing on things which can't be changed is just willfully ignorant. Especially considering the candidate you have endorsed wants to change the Geneva Conventions. You really don't want to be telling people to stay out of the world of politics when you support a candidate who wants to break laws made by politicians.


Woah there cow boy, step back another page and look at what you said. "It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)"

Do you know why I didn't include that? Because this is a tech website full of kids. Had this been an actual website full of INFORMED adults who could vote, I would've. This however, it a site full of kids, a lot of whom are not even residing in the USA. Don't mistake my reasoning for voting for someone with my telling to vote for this person. If you like my reasoning, look more into it, but I'm not here to teach you for free.


You felt the need to explain why people should like Trump above other candidates when they are all kids who can't vote? It sounds to me like you don't know how Trump intends to follow through on all of his promises and are now just trying to back your way out of a corner. You could easily prove me wrong by telling me how he intends to do what he says he will do.

You've had two pages to do that since I first asked.

Inb4: "You obviously aren't well informed."
If you want to come onto a site to discuss politics with a bunch of kids then you should be prepared to explain things to them, otherwise you look just as uninformed as the rest of us simpletons.


You have a hard time reading, don't you. Go back and read what I made larger, and striked out. I simply wrote MY reasons as to why I think trump would be the best candidate, by no means am I telling you that this is why YOU should vote for him. If you cannot understand this from everything I have written, you will have a hard time understanding my reasonings (in Trumps words) as to how he'll fulfill his promises.[/quote]


You know what? You're right about kids on TTG.

Why would I expect one to flesh their opinion out with substance on a political topic? My mistake.
You are just as guilty of being uninformed about politics as you say kids on TTG are until you prove that you aren't.

If you can't do that and would rather go round and round in circles about whether or not you were or weren't trying to convince people that Trump is the best choice by posting a long winded puff piece about him on a tech website then be my guest.

If you're OK with having your opinion be unsupported on this website because they're all uninformed kids and it doesn't matter what they all think, then that's fine.

You're still missing the point. I'm not going o prove to a kid over the internet everything. I simply put up reasons why I am voting for trump. Might that make someone else think "hey, this Trump guy might be a good candidate, let me look into him"? Absolutely, but that's up to you. Contrary to popular belief, I actually have a life outside of TTG, if you want to call me mis-informed, go ahead, I'm mis-informed. God bless this country we have the power to do that and move on.

How many un-supported facts are posted daily? Too many to count. You're acting like that math teacher saying your answer is wrong because you didn't show your work even though you got the answer. As I said, had this been a forum full of voting age, level headed adults, I might have put sources in. Then again, I wouldn't. You know why? It's not my job to say vote for this guy, vote for that guy. It's my job to just vote, not tell you who to vote for. Be thankful that someone is putting their reasoning out there as to why they're voting for X candidate so when we have another Bush, someone can do the research and see what lies were made, and where everything went wrong.


So you're OK with your opinion on TTG being an unsupported puff piece because everyone on TTG must be uninformed children under voting age who aren't worth debating.
I'll remember that for the next time I disagree with you.


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Trump.

The republicans have no other candidate thats going to get a sliver into the polls percentage, and the damn republicans are driving this country into a hole.
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Supervisor wrote Yeah we do not need Bernie Sanders as our president. Trump, I believe will help our economy. He will fix a lot of things that are wrong today. For example: Get them Muslims the hell out of the US.
that's really small minded. Hell I am from the UK so it's not my concern. Your saying you want the US Muslim free? I bet it's because of terrorism when in actual fact most Muslims are scared shitless of them. Maybe you should open your mind abit more and think that believe it or not Muslim is all for peace and world peace.



Muslims being peaceful? Biggest lie I have ever heard.
Im not Anti-Muslim but i have to agree with you there the Majority of Muslims are not peaceful people.


Are you seriously trying to tell me that the majority of the 1.6 BILLION Muslims aren't peaceful?
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Cavalry wrote
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Cavalry wrote
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002 wrote Let me go through this again. Why is trump a better idea than the others? One of the biggest issues is gun rights. While I don't believe our gun rights will never be taken away, presidents will try to take them, and it just wastes time and money, taking this country further down the hole. Trump not being against guns (as of now) won't be wasting that time and money.

Trump is also a successful business man. Look at what he turned "a small loan of a million dollars" into. Don't you think he can help this country out financially? Yes, this is a country and not a company, however he will have the financial background to know what ideas to invest time and money in.

Everyone seems to be focused on him saying only Americans belong in America, when it stems further than that. He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will.

Trump is focused on keeping, and making jobs here in America. Yes, this will make the upper class lose money, but it will help the middle class re-establish themselves which will make the upper class money again.

What is one thing that you hear a lot of in a political races? You might here the words super PACs, funding, etc. What is this? People buying out that person for their interest. People don't just hand out money. Here is why Rubio is a horrible idea. He is 100% bought out right now. Trump has the money to run by himself, for himself which means that no one is buying him out (though I'm sure he's not declining money, but the point is, he doesn't have to take the money so less people are buying him).

Yes, the guy has no filter, what's wrong with that? Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government? Right now our government is as transparent as wearing a welding mask at night with no light. Trump is like wearing sun glasses at night with no light. Not only that, but I'm sure without that filter, he's not for this political correctness BS. This is where retarded was the word we used, then it was mentally retarded, and after multiple terms I believe now we're at special needs?

Who is trump talking about? The middle class, the blue collar worker, us little people, what ever you want to call it. What are the others focused on? The established rich folk.

For all these people saying Trump isn't diplomatic, who was willing to sit at a table across from Putin and talk with him to understand his views? My mind might be escaping me, but I do believe that man was Trump. Not Rubio, not Sanders, and sure as hell not Clinton.

He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man. Not saying men are inferior, but you hear people (like Clinton) yelling and pitching a fit that women have it to hard and lets just hand them life on not just a silver platter, but a gold platter.

Keep in mind that we're not just voting for the person, but also their family. See how you hear about Michelle Obama a lot? That goes to the family. Melania is already accustom to the spot light, and would probably be a great candidate for women's health, The you have Ivanka. Again used to the spot light, but she is a GREAT role model. She is a mother and a thriving entrepreneur.

Every president is around arguably intelligent people to help them on most things. What is one thing they need to think on their feet by themselves on? Negotiations. Trump being a businessman, and a successful one at that, must be pretty good at the negotiations part.



This is all fine and dandy, but your vote means nothing. If you watch the news or stay up to date with politics, which I bet most people don't, you will be astonished to find that the state representatives are voting BEFORE the polls close. How can this be if they're using YOUR votes to represent the state? They're not, the elections are rigged. Hell, just look at the electoral college. This is where 538 electors "vote" for president. All states get an elector based on the number of voting citizens, but for the sake for time, lets just divide the US into the North, East and West (or 3 states). Both areas have exactly the same amount of voters. The East votes 47% of candidate A, and 53% for B. The west goes 61% for candidate A, and 39% for B. So now A has 108%, and B has 92% (just adding the full percentages for both, not dividing and re-adding). So now the North really like candidate B, so they vote 80% towards B, and 20% towards A. This means A now has 128%, and B has a whopping 172%, or dividing and re-adding, A has 42.6% of the total vote, and B has 57.3% of the total vote. Although candidate B has the popular vote, candidate A won in 2 states, so they have more electoral votes, which makes them president.


It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)


This can be said for any reason to vote for any president. Trump just has better promises and more means of fulfilling those promises.


That's my point. You didn't include his means of fulfilling those promises (his policy substance) so you're still no closer to convincing us to vote for Trump.


One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y. The simple fact is, he has a better promise than the rest, and better means of fulfilling that promise.


Do you not see how you have just demolished your own point?
If we can't trust any of what the candidates say before they become president then you can't say that you're voting for Trump because he will let you keep your guns.

You can't say that 'He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will. '
You can't say that 'He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man.'

You can't say, 'Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government?' because Trump might be using his lack of political correctness as a campaign trick.

A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions, Trump does the former very well.


Ahh, but you are failing to see the whole point. Clinton and them are FOCUSING on things that can't happen like taking away guns. This wastes time and money. Trump on the other hand is already proving he's not wasting the time to beat a dead horse. You really don't see the point I'm making do you? By what your trying to say, I get that you believe we should just roll the dice and vote for who ever it lands on, because everyone can say one thing and do another, so you might as well vote for who looks better. It goes beyond that. Perhaps you should stay out of the world of politics, or do more in-depth research.


By your own logic you are the one saying that we can't know what a politician is going to do. You said that. You would be the one likely to roll a dice and vote for whoever it lands on. I'm the one saying that you should vote for whoever you agree with on policy but also the person with a plan for how they are going to implement that policy.

You: One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y.

Me: A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions.

So how you have concluded that I think we should just roll a dice to decide who we vote for I do not know.

You didn't include how Trump plans to implement his policy. That either means that you don't know or you don't think it's important enough to consider when making a decision on who you are going to vote for.

And yet you have the gall to say that I should stay out of politics? It is fascinating that you feel as though you can endorse a candidate by saying everything he plans to do without telling us how he is going to do it and then say that people who question you just don't know enough about politics.

Promises mean a lot less when you aren't told the method by which they are going to be achieved.

And to say that other candidates are focusing on things which can't be changed is just willfully ignorant. Especially considering the candidate you have endorsed wants to change the Geneva Conventions. You really don't want to be telling people to stay out of the world of politics when you support a candidate who wants to break laws made by politicians.


Woah there cow boy, step back another page and look at what you said. "It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)"

Do you know why I didn't include that? Because this is a tech website full of kids. Had this been an actual website full of INFORMED adults who could vote, I would've. This however, it a site full of kids, a lot of whom are not even residing in the USA. Don't mistake my reasoning for voting for someone with my telling to vote for this person. If you like my reasoning, look more into it, but I'm not here to teach you for free.


You felt the need to explain why people should like Trump above other candidates when they are all kids who can't vote? It sounds to me like you don't know how Trump intends to follow through on all of his promises and are now just trying to back your way out of a corner. You could easily prove me wrong by telling me how he intends to do what he says he will do.

You've had two pages to do that since I first asked.

Inb4: "You obviously aren't well informed."
If you want to come onto a site to discuss politics with a bunch of kids then you should be prepared to explain things to them, otherwise you look just as uninformed as the rest of us simpletons.


You have a hard time reading, don't you. Go back and read what I made larger, and striked out. I simply wrote MY reasons as to why I think trump would be the best candidate, by no means am I telling you that this is why YOU should vote for him. If you cannot understand this from everything I have written, you will have a hard time understanding my reasonings (in Trumps words) as to how he'll fulfill his promises.[/quote]


You know what? You're right about kids on TTG.

Why would I expect one to flesh their opinion out with substance on a political topic? My mistake.
You are just as guilty of being uninformed about politics as you say kids on TTG are until you prove that you aren't.

If you can't do that and would rather go round and round in circles about whether or not you were or weren't trying to convince people that Trump is the best choice by posting a long winded puff piece about him on a tech website then be my guest.

If you're OK with having your opinion be unsupported on this website because they're all uninformed kids and it doesn't matter what they all think, then that's fine.[/quote]

You're still missing the point. I'm not going o prove to a kid over the internet everything. I simply put up reasons why I am voting for trump. Might that make someone else think "hey, this Trump guy might be a good candidate, let me look into him"? Absolutely, but that's up to you. Contrary to popular belief, I actually have a life outside of TTG, if you want to call me mis-informed, go ahead, I'm mis-informed. God bless this country we have the power to do that and move on.

How many un-supported facts are posted daily? Too many to count. You're acting like that math teacher saying your answer is wrong because you didn't show your work even though you got the answer. As I said, had this been a forum full of voting age, level headed adults, I might have put sources in. Then again, I wouldn't. You know why? It's not my job to say vote for this guy, vote for that guy. It's my job to just vote, not tell you who to vote for. Be thankful that someone is putting their reasoning out there as to why they're voting for X candidate so when we have another Bush, someone can do the research and see what lies were made, and where everything went wrong.
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Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
002 wrote
Cavalry wrote
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002 wrote Let me go through this again. Why is trump a better idea than the others? One of the biggest issues is gun rights. While I don't believe our gun rights will never be taken away, presidents will try to take them, and it just wastes time and money, taking this country further down the hole. Trump not being against guns (as of now) won't be wasting that time and money.

Trump is also a successful business man. Look at what he turned "a small loan of a million dollars" into. Don't you think he can help this country out financially? Yes, this is a country and not a company, however he will have the financial background to know what ideas to invest time and money in.

Everyone seems to be focused on him saying only Americans belong in America, when it stems further than that. He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will.

Trump is focused on keeping, and making jobs here in America. Yes, this will make the upper class lose money, but it will help the middle class re-establish themselves which will make the upper class money again.

What is one thing that you hear a lot of in a political races? You might here the words super PACs, funding, etc. What is this? People buying out that person for their interest. People don't just hand out money. Here is why Rubio is a horrible idea. He is 100% bought out right now. Trump has the money to run by himself, for himself which means that no one is buying him out (though I'm sure he's not declining money, but the point is, he doesn't have to take the money so less people are buying him).

Yes, the guy has no filter, what's wrong with that? Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government? Right now our government is as transparent as wearing a welding mask at night with no light. Trump is like wearing sun glasses at night with no light. Not only that, but I'm sure without that filter, he's not for this political correctness BS. This is where retarded was the word we used, then it was mentally retarded, and after multiple terms I believe now we're at special needs?

Who is trump talking about? The middle class, the blue collar worker, us little people, what ever you want to call it. What are the others focused on? The established rich folk.

For all these people saying Trump isn't diplomatic, who was willing to sit at a table across from Putin and talk with him to understand his views? My mind might be escaping me, but I do believe that man was Trump. Not Rubio, not Sanders, and sure as hell not Clinton.

He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man. Not saying men are inferior, but you hear people (like Clinton) yelling and pitching a fit that women have it to hard and lets just hand them life on not just a silver platter, but a gold platter.

Keep in mind that we're not just voting for the person, but also their family. See how you hear about Michelle Obama a lot? That goes to the family. Melania is already accustom to the spot light, and would probably be a great candidate for women's health, The you have Ivanka. Again used to the spot light, but she is a GREAT role model. She is a mother and a thriving entrepreneur.

Every president is around arguably intelligent people to help them on most things. What is one thing they need to think on their feet by themselves on? Negotiations. Trump being a businessman, and a successful one at that, must be pretty good at the negotiations part.



This is all fine and dandy, but your vote means nothing. If you watch the news or stay up to date with politics, which I bet most people don't, you will be astonished to find that the state representatives are voting BEFORE the polls close. How can this be if they're using YOUR votes to represent the state? They're not, the elections are rigged. Hell, just look at the electoral college. This is where 538 electors "vote" for president. All states get an elector based on the number of voting citizens, but for the sake for time, lets just divide the US into the North, East and West (or 3 states). Both areas have exactly the same amount of voters. The East votes 47% of candidate A, and 53% for B. The west goes 61% for candidate A, and 39% for B. So now A has 108%, and B has 92% (just adding the full percentages for both, not dividing and re-adding). So now the North really like candidate B, so they vote 80% towards B, and 20% towards A. This means A now has 128%, and B has a whopping 172%, or dividing and re-adding, A has 42.6% of the total vote, and B has 57.3% of the total vote. Although candidate B has the popular vote, candidate A won in 2 states, so they have more electoral votes, which makes them president.


It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)


This can be said for any reason to vote for any president. Trump just has better promises and more means of fulfilling those promises.


That's my point. You didn't include his means of fulfilling those promises (his policy substance) so you're still no closer to convincing us to vote for Trump.


One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y. The simple fact is, he has a better promise than the rest, and better means of fulfilling that promise.


Do you not see how you have just demolished your own point?
If we can't trust any of what the candidates say before they become president then you can't say that you're voting for Trump because he will let you keep your guns.

You can't say that 'He wants to stop this wasteful spending on helping out these illegals that we currently do, and that everyone else will. '
You can't say that 'He's not about coddling the women. This is where he believes if a women wants to be treated like a man, get the same pay as a man, and the same job opportunity as a man, she better be doing the same thing as a man.'

You can't say, 'Do you want to keep being lied to, or do you want a somewhat transparent government?' because Trump might be using his lack of political correctness as a campaign trick.

A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions, Trump does the former very well.


Ahh, but you are failing to see the whole point. Clinton and them are FOCUSING on things that can't happen like taking away guns. This wastes time and money. Trump on the other hand is already proving he's not wasting the time to beat a dead horse. You really don't see the point I'm making do you? By what your trying to say, I get that you believe we should just roll the dice and vote for who ever it lands on, because everyone can say one thing and do another, so you might as well vote for who looks better. It goes beyond that. Perhaps you should stay out of the world of politics, or do more in-depth research.


By your own logic you are the one saying that we can't know what a politician is going to do. You said that. You would be the one likely to roll a dice and vote for whoever it lands on. I'm the one saying that you should vote for whoever you agree with on policy but also the person with a plan for how they are going to implement that policy.

You: One cannot say how a presidential hopeful will do something, it just can't happen. I am not Trump so even if he says X and that's what I give you, he may do Y.

Me: A certain amount of trust has to be placed in the candidate you support, and it's far easier for people to support and trust a candidate who continually speaks about both their policy positions and what they are going to do to achieve those policy positions.

So how you have concluded that I think we should just roll a dice to decide who we vote for I do not know.

You didn't include how Trump plans to implement his policy. That either means that you don't know or you don't think it's important enough to consider when making a decision on who you are going to vote for.

And yet you have the gall to say that I should stay out of politics? It is fascinating that you feel as though you can endorse a candidate by saying everything he plans to do without telling us how he is going to do it and then say that people who question you just don't know enough about politics.

Promises mean a lot less when you aren't told the method by which they are going to be achieved.

And to say that other candidates are focusing on things which can't be changed is just willfully ignorant. Especially considering the candidate you have endorsed wants to change the Geneva Conventions. You really don't want to be telling people to stay out of the world of politics when you support a candidate who wants to break laws made by politicians.


Woah there cow boy, step back another page and look at what you said. "It is all well and good stating that he is all of these things. The question isn't whether or not he is for all of these things, the question is how is he going to do it. Where is the policy substance in this post? It's not there.

I could easily make another post just like yours and make Ted Cruz sound like a great person with the will of the people in his heart and the strength of God behind him in negotiations. It doesn't mean he will be a good president. It doesn't mean his numbers will add up and it doesn't mean he won't ruin the country. (And before you take this to mean I'm voting for Ted Cruz, I'm not.)"

Do you know why I didn't include that? Because this is a tech website full of kids. Had this been an actual website full of INFORMED adults who could vote, I would've. This however, it a site full of kids, a lot of whom are not even residing in the USA. Don't mistake my reasoning for voting for someone with my telling to vote for this person. If you like my reasoning, look more into it, but I'm not here to teach you for free.


You felt the need to explain why people should like Trump above other candidates when they are all kids who can't vote? It sounds to me like you don't know how Trump intends to follow through on all of his promises and are now just trying to back your way out of a corner. You could easily prove me wrong by telling me how he intends to do what he says he will do.

You've had two pages to do that since I first asked.

Inb4: "You obviously aren't well informed."
If you want to come onto a site to discuss politics with a bunch of kids then you should be prepared to explain things to them, otherwise you look just as uninformed as the rest of us simpletons.


You have a hard time reading, don't you. Go back and read what I made larger, and striked out. I simply wrote MY reasons as to why I think trump would be the best candidate, by no means am I telling you that this is why YOU should vote for him. If you cannot understand this from everything I have written, you will have a hard time understanding my reasonings (in Trumps words) as to how he'll fulfill his promises.[/quote]


You know what? You're right about kids on TTG.

Why would I expect one to flesh their opinion out with substance on a political topic? My mistake.
You are just as guilty of being uninformed about politics as you say kids on TTG are until you prove that you aren't.

If you can't do that and would rather go round and round in circles about whether or not you were or weren't trying to convince people that Trump is the best choice by posting a long winded puff piece about him on a tech website then be my guest.

If you're OK with having your opinion be unsupported on this website because they're all uninformed kids and it doesn't matter what they all think, then that's fine.


You're still missing the point. I'm not going o prove to a kid over the internet everything. I simply put up reasons why I am voting for trump. Might that make someone else think "hey, this Trump guy might be a good candidate, let me look into him"? Absolutely, but that's up to you. Contrary to popular belief, I actually have a life outside of TTG, if you want to call me mis-informed, go ahead, I'm mis-informed. God bless this country we have the power to do that and move on.

How many un-supported facts are posted daily? Too many to count. You're acting like that math teacher saying your answer is wrong because you didn't show your work even though you got the answer. As I said, had this been a forum full of voting age, level headed adults, I might have put sources in. Then again, I wouldn't. You know why? It's not my job to say vote for this guy, vote for that guy. It's my job to just vote, not tell you who to vote for. Be thankful that someone is putting their reasoning out there as to why they're voting for X candidate so when we have another Bush, someone can do the research and see what lies were made, and where everything went wrong.[/quote]
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No reason to post who you'd vote for anyways with butthurt trump fangays like Dinkleberg and iCamp around
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Lavish wrote
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Supervisor wrote Yeah we do not need Bernie Sanders as our president. Trump, I believe will help our economy. He will fix a lot of things that are wrong today. For example: Get them Muslims the hell out of the US.
that's really small minded. Hell I am from the UK so it's not my concern. Your saying you want the US Muslim free? I bet it's because of terrorism when in actual fact most Muslims are scared shitless of them. Maybe you should open your mind abit more and think that believe it or not Muslim is all for peace and world peace.



Muslims being peaceful? Biggest lie I have ever heard.
Im not Anti-Muslim but i have to agree with you there the Majority of Muslims are not peaceful people.


Are you seriously trying to tell me that the majority of the 1.6 BILLION Muslims aren't peaceful?
Are you seriously back at making comments without adding anything useful to it just to get your post count up?
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Father-Doug wrote
Lavish wrote
Father-Doug wrote
McGregor wrote
Rugs wrote
Supervisor wrote Yeah we do not need Bernie Sanders as our president. Trump, I believe will help our economy. He will fix a lot of things that are wrong today. For example: Get them Muslims the hell out of the US.
that's really small minded. Hell I am from the UK so it's not my concern. Your saying you want the US Muslim free? I bet it's because of terrorism when in actual fact most Muslims are scared shitless of them. Maybe you should open your mind abit more and think that believe it or not Muslim is all for peace and world peace.



Muslims being peaceful? Biggest lie I have ever heard.
Im not Anti-Muslim but i have to agree with you there the Majority of Muslims are not peaceful people.


Are you seriously trying to tell me that the majority of the 1.6 BILLION Muslims aren't peaceful?
Are you seriously back at making comments without adding anything useful to it just to get your post count up?


What he is saying is that the largest army in the world is China's with 2.2 million members.
If 800 million Muslims, at the very least because that is half of the total Muslim population and you said the majority, weren't peaceful then they would have taken over the entire planet already.
Or at the very least there would be an ISIS sized Islamic terrorist organisation on every continent.
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