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Why would you kill a human being just because you don't want to raise it? For god sake that's what foster care is for. And if the women get pregnant during sex, you say they didn't want that to happen so they should kill the innocent child In there stomach? A woman knows the risk of getting pregnant before anything even happens! And yes I do support ted cruz. Why? Because he's not going to bring this country down and get us all blew to shit like trump will. I'm done posting on this topic. Good day to you all!
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Leds wrote Why would you kill a human being just because you don't want to raise it? For god sake that's what foster care is for. And if the women get pregnant during sex, you say they didn't want that to happen so they should kill the innocent child In there stomach? A woman knows the risk of getting pregnant before anything even happens! And yes I do support ted cruz. Why? Because he's not going to bring this country down and get us all blew to shit like trump will. I'm done posting on this topic. Good day to you all!

I disagree highly that you are killing a human being. Is the thing within the womb life? Sure, but so is every organ in the body. It isn't a human being though. I feel the things needed for human life are consciousness and some type of memory. The mother's body is being used as an incubator. If she doesn't want her body used for that, she has every right to end it. That potential human life within her doesn't get rights because it isn't a human yet. Making her keep it is just a way to punish the woman for having sex. I'm not for that.

I see memes all the time on Facebook. "Then why do we say 'We are having a baby' if it isn't a human being?" Well, because you're not English-ing correctly. It should be "We are going to have a baby" since that is what will happen if nature continues to take its course and it develops like it should. "Why is it two counts of murder when you kill a pregnant woman?" Because we are assuming she wanted the child, and there needs to be consequences for a man who knowingly takes away her freedom to have that. It is a deterrent. "What if your mom aborted you?" Well, I guess I wouldn't be here then, lol. It was her choice.

Throwing more kids into the system would be great... Some kids get great treatment and great families that take care of them. Many do not. The foster care system is backed up and is terrible. Why add to the misery?

I see no arguments for pro-life. We can debate on when the abortion period should be cut off, but I don't see any argument against it in general.
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Killing another individual because it was an accident is not right, there is a lot of alternatives to it like using protection or birth control. Do they use it? That is on them, however it is not right due to the fact that they were careless.
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Wuuuu wrote Killing another individual because it was an accident is not right, there is a lot of alternatives to it like using protection or birth control. Do they use it? That is on them, however it is not right due to the fact that they were careless.


Give me a non-religious reason for why I should care about the 'life' of a bundle of cells which can't think or feel anything.
With the advances we have made in medical science in recent years, any scrap of human tissue could be a 'potential human being.'
If aborting a fetus is murder then scratching your nose is genocide.

Personally, I don't care if a woman has no abortions, one abortion, or one hundred abortions.
That is her and her partner's choice.
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Rather than debating on the legality of abortions I think the government should be doing a better job informing and teaching people about safer sex and the benefits of adoption being presented to women considering abortion.
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Jaxx wrote Rather than debating on the legality of abortions I think the government should be doing a better job informing and teaching people about safer sex and the benefits of adoption being presented to women considering abortion.

If the government leans towards banning abortions (as some states are trying to do), then debating the legality is a must. I agree that we should teach safer sex. Abstinence only education is disastrous, but the states want to keep the right to teach what they want.

I question this "teach the benefits of adoption" thing. Do we teach that in sex ed. during school? If we are trying to lecture a pregnant woman at a hospital or something, I'm not for that.

I question what the benefits are anyway. You manage to carry a bunch of cells in your body until it finally develops into a viable organism that can survive outside of the womb, you give very painful birth, and then throw it into a system that is already overflowing with children. Not quite sure where the benefits come in unless the child manages to get lucky with a good family. If someone doesn't want to have a child nor go through the whole "pregnant" process, why not end it before it actually becomes a child and has a great chance of being placed in a crappy situation that could have been avoided with the abortion?

I just don't see the problem with abortions. I understand it sounds scary to stop a potential human being, but a potential human being is not a human being. It is stopping it before it becomes a human being.
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Jaxx wrote Rather than debating on the legality of abortions I think the government should be doing a better job informing and teaching people about safer sex and the benefits of adoption being presented to women considering abortion.


When you're talking about having absolute control over what another human is doing with their own body, the legality is of utmost importance.

And your idea about presenting the benefits of adoption come with it's own set of ethical and moral problems. It's no different than the states where abortion is legal, but the mother must watch the sonogram and have the process of the fetus's development explained in detail, which was purposely made compulsory to shame a woman into not wanting to go through with it.
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This is one of the few things that I actually agree with Donald Trump on.

No civilised society allows one human being to harm another human without being punished. It shouldn't be different with abortion. You're killing a child who isn't yet born but has the potential to be someone and do something in the world. It's really that simple. You didn't want the child? You shouldn't have had sexual intercourse without protection.

Not to mention, some of you aren't even mentioning the side effects of these pills and procedures. The contraceptive pill is a steroid that tricks the body into thinking it's pregnant and we're giving it to teenage girls. It's also a performance enchaining drug that athletes use. It's that powerful.

And if you're even slightly religious, abortion is the only sin that the Catholic Church refuses to forgive.

If we're going to allow abortion, at least make it so that the man, woman and doctor have to all agree that it's the best situation.
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I think women should only be able to have an abortion if they were a victim of rape. On the other hand the people having sex shouldn't be so dumb. Pulling out isn't hard.
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Motivational wrote This is one of the few things that I actually agree with Donald Trump on.

No civilized society allows one human being to harm another human without being punished. It shouldn't be different with abortion. You're killing a child who isn't yet born but has the potential to be someone and do something in the world. It's really that simple. You didn't want the child? You shouldn't have had sexual intercourse without protection.

Not to mention, some of you aren't even mentioning the side effects of these pills and procedures. The contraceptive pill is a steroid that tricks the body into thinking it's pregnant and we're giving it to teenage girls. It's also a performance enchaining drug that athletes use. It's that powerful.


So not only is having complete control over a woman's body not enough for you, but contraceptives, the only alternative to abortion, should also be disallowed?
Also, you realize that people that use a condom can still end up pregnant, right?

A fetus is not a living human.
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