I've been working with MEAN stacks for a while now, i.e. Node.js, Express, Angular and MongoDB. Pretty cool stuff and also quite popular these days. Full-stack JavaScript applications have a bright future, so if you want to work with JavaScript professionally I would definitely recommend it.

Meteor is also fun to work with, it has less of a learning curve than MEAN stacks and it is easy to quickly set-up an app.

I am a javascript developer (Mainly web but also work alot on server applications, written a live server that loads javascript at runtime and refreshes every second so you can edit the server as its running), also worked with Node.JS and Angular... Ignored MongoDB never really cared much for it, as for what i focus on is Real Time data applications in websites.

For example my specialty not kidding is making Administrator Panels for websites and infrastructures. Mixing javascript with Node.JS, PHP and AJAX/JQUERY.

Javascript, Node.JS and PHP... if you can learn those 3 you have a high chance of making a WebApp, Mobile App, Desktop App (Squirrel Installer with NJS), Server Apps (NJS), Games (Web- three.js, BabylonJS...).

So as for working with javascript as a profession...
There is a lot of opportunities there, down the road javascript may replace lua for scripting so keep an eye out!

"Ignored MongoDB never really cared much for it, as for what i focus on is Real Time data applications in websites."

Nice. Not using a great NoSQL solution for real time applications.

ObscureCoder wrote "Ignored MongoDB never really cared much for it, as for what i focus on is Real Time data applications in websites."

Nice. Not using a great NoSQL solution for real time applications.

I meant securely... if it has to be secure you need it behind PHP and PDO is better for PHP.

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote I meant securely... if it has to be secure you need it behind PHP and PDO is better for PHP.

Maybe you could explain a little more what you're talking about, because I think you're confusing people here.

1. Why would MongoDB need PHP be secure? Considering this topic is about JavaScript, and you said you are a JavaScript developer yourself - what is wrong with simply using... JavaScript? Not to mention you're not going to be happy if you would have to install PHP on Node.js.

2. How would PDO be "better" than MongoDB? I don't see how they can be compared like that as they are 2 different things. If you think PDO is a database then you might want to go through some PHP documentation.

Nic wrote

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote I meant securely... if it has to be secure you need it behind PHP and PDO is better for PHP.

Maybe you could explain a little more what you're talking about, because I think you're confusing people here.

1. Why would MongoDB need PHP be secure? Considering this topic is about JavaScript, and you said you are a JavaScript developer yourself - what is wrong with simply using... JavaScript? Not to mention you're not going to be happy if you would have to install PHP on Node.js.

2. How would PDO be "better" than MongoDB? I don't see how they can be compared like that as they are 2 different things. If you think PDO is a database then you might want to go through some PHP documentation.

I clearly have written the response incorrectly...

What im trying to say as for MongoDB i never would use it because i mostly work with web apps and when using databases with web apps you don't want to setup the db connection client side, they could get the database credentials so i use PHP and PDO so its Secure from the user.

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote

Nic wrote

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote I meant securely... if it has to be secure you need it behind PHP and PDO is better for PHP.

Maybe you could explain a little more what you're talking about, because I think you're confusing people here.

1. Why would MongoDB need PHP be secure? Considering this topic is about JavaScript, and you said you are a JavaScript developer yourself - what is wrong with simply using... JavaScript? Not to mention you're not going to be happy if you would have to install PHP on Node.js.

2. How would PDO be "better" than MongoDB? I don't see how they can be compared like that as they are 2 different things. If you think PDO is a database then you might want to go through some PHP documentation.

I clearly have written the response incorrectly...

What im trying to say as for MongoDB i never would use it because i mostly work with web apps and when using databases with web apps you don't want to setup the db connection client side, they could get the database credentials so i use PHP and PDO so its Secure from the user.

MongoDB works great for web applications and also runs server-side, so no worries there.

I suggest you look into it (doesn't have to be MongoDB specifically, but server-side JS and JS databases in general). Considering you're a JS developer (and if you like it), it is interesting and can perhaps even be fun to work with.

Nic wrote

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote

Nic wrote

ZZ9_x_iCaLZz wrote I meant securely... if it has to be secure you need it behind PHP and PDO is better for PHP.

Maybe you could explain a little more what you're talking about, because I think you're confusing people here.

1. Why would MongoDB need PHP be secure? Considering this topic is about JavaScript, and you said you are a JavaScript developer yourself - what is wrong with simply using... JavaScript? Not to mention you're not going to be happy if you would have to install PHP on Node.js.

2. How would PDO be "better" than MongoDB? I don't see how they can be compared like that as they are 2 different things. If you think PDO is a database then you might want to go through some PHP documentation.

I clearly have written the response incorrectly...

What im trying to say as for MongoDB i never would use it because i mostly work with web apps and when using databases with web apps you don't want to setup the db connection client side, they could get the database credentials so i use PHP and PDO so its Secure from the user.

MongoDB works great for web applications and also runs server-side, so no worries there.

I suggest you look into it (doesn't have to be MongoDB specifically, but server-side JS and JS databases in general). Considering you're a JS developer (and if you like it), it is interesting and can perhaps even be fun to work with.

Well i guess its time i should look into it, thanks for the suggestion ;)

Nic wrote I've been working with MEAN stacks for a while now, i.e. Node.js, Express, Angular and MongoDB. Pretty cool stuff and also quite popular these days. Full-stack JavaScript applications have a bright future, so if you want to work with JavaScript professionally I would definitely recommend it.

Meteor is also fun to work with, it has less of a learning curve than MEAN stacks and it is easy to quickly set-up an app.

Sorry to jump into this conversation between you both but this meteor app seems very good thanks for the recommendation!

Many Thanks,

Josh