Get Halo's.

That would make the truck look so much better.

002 wrote

24v wrote

002 wrote CAI's don't do anything but make the engine look cooler, so right off the bat I would take that off the list.

Halo headlights, be ready to fork out a decent amount of cash or you will be stuck with POS lights like what I got the first time around.

Why a bull bar instead of a Road Armour bumper or something? I think bull bars on lifted trucks are pointless, but to each their own.

As far as the muffler, it all depends on your engine and what kind of sound you are looking for. I would almost re-do the entire exhaust to a true dual, but that's just me.

Where are the pics?

Since when? Better air flow results in better combustion... That's a very poor interpretation. Noticable power? Maybe a little. Its not a turbo. But running cooler air into the engine with a larger quantity? That's better.

There have been MULTIPLE experiments showing the same thing- they don't do anything but look pretty.

You need to look at where your vehicle pulls it's air from too. My truck pulls air out of the fender, so it already pulls cold air. A CAI is an open filter in the engine bay so it is pulling hot air from the engine.

Cold air intakes alone don't do anything. When paired up with a tune though, they can do something. For N/A cars, not as much but turbo cars they definitely do something, again, after a tune of course. I have a short ram intake with an air box and I noticed a sooner spoil time in my turbo on my Subaru.

It really depends on the one you buy too. If you get one from advance auto, then you waste your money. If you buy a K&N one that sits more in the fender and away from the engine, then that can be a good investment. But you need to pair it up with a tune to notice really anything at all.

If intakes don't do absolutely anything at all, then why do basically all racecar drivers and some of the fasted drag cars have them?

24v wrote Lol get a diesel and you'd understand the concept a little better.

Follow along with the conversation, this is a gas vehicle we are talking about...

Another thing I like to look at, millions and millions of dollars went into the design of these trucks, if a CAI would help power and gas mileage in a truck, don't you think they would come factory like that? After all, the people want something that has power and is fuel efficient, so why wouldn't they put in 200 bucks worth of tubing and a filter that doesn't do anything to sell their truck? Perhaps because it doesn't make sense. It may add 1-2 hp, but then you are paying 100 buck plus for 1 hp which is stupid.

Carporn wrote

002 wrote

24v wrote

002 wrote CAI's don't do anything but make the engine look cooler, so right off the bat I would take that off the list.

Halo headlights, be ready to fork out a decent amount of cash or you will be stuck with POS lights like what I got the first time around.

Why a bull bar instead of a Road Armour bumper or something? I think bull bars on lifted trucks are pointless, but to each their own.

As far as the muffler, it all depends on your engine and what kind of sound you are looking for. I would almost re-do the entire exhaust to a true dual, but that's just me.

Where are the pics?

Since when? Better air flow results in better combustion... That's a very poor interpretation. Noticable power? Maybe a little. Its not a turbo. But running cooler air into the engine with a larger quantity? That's better.

There have been MULTIPLE experiments showing the same thing- they don't do anything but look pretty.

You need to look at where your vehicle pulls it's air from too. My truck pulls air out of the fender, so it already pulls cold air. A CAI is an open filter in the engine bay so it is pulling hot air from the engine.

Cold air intakes alone don't do anything. When paired up with a tune though, they can do something. For N/A cars, not as much but turbo cars they definitely do something, again, after a tune of course. I have a short ram intake with an air box and I noticed a sooner spoil time in my turbo on my Subaru.

It really depends on the one you buy too. If you get one from advance auto, then you waste your money. If you buy a K&N one that sits more in the fender and away from the engine, then that can be a good investment. But you need to pair it up with a tune to notice really anything at all.

If intakes don't do absolutely anything at all, then why do basically all racecar drivers and some of the fasted drag cars have them?

Because those are specially tuned vehicles that need more air flow. They are going to have a massive carb / throttle body which needs more airflow. A stock vehicle you buy from the dealer needs a 14:1 air gas mixture, the MAF sensor does everything it can to keep that magical number.

002 wrote

24v wrote Lol get a diesel and you'd understand the concept a little better.

Follow along with the conversation, this is a gas vehicle we are talking about...

Another thing I like to look at, millions and millions of dollars went into the design of these trucks, if a CAI would help power and gas mileage in a truck, don't you think they would come factory like that? After all, the people want something that has power and is fuel efficient, so why wouldn't they put in 200 bucks worth of tubing and a filter that doesn't do anything to sell their truck? Perhaps because it doesn't make sense. It may add 1-2 hp, but then you are paying 100 buck plus for 1 hp which is stupid.

Because they make vehicles as cheap as they can for their efficiency. You clearly said a CAI does absolutely nothing. You might be a special kind of stupid.

24v wrote

002 wrote

24v wrote Lol get a diesel and you'd understand the concept a little better.

Follow along with the conversation, this is a gas vehicle we are talking about...

Another thing I like to look at, millions and millions of dollars went into the design of these trucks, if a CAI would help power and gas mileage in a truck, don't you think they would come factory like that? After all, the people want something that has power and is fuel efficient, so why wouldn't they put in 200 bucks worth of tubing and a filter that doesn't do anything to sell their truck? Perhaps because it doesn't make sense. It may add 1-2 hp, but then you are paying 100 buck plus for 1 hp which is stupid.

Because they make vehicles as cheap as they can for their efficiency. You clearly said a CAI does absolutely nothing. You might be a special kind of stupid.

Dodge maybe, who puts coil springs in the rear of a truck lol. I'm sorry, but I go with the true hard core facts. You know, the people who put the car on a dyno before and after the CAI and see no change. It's just a fact bud, they don't make a noticeable difference besides looking better than stock. Show me a video where someone put in a CAI and put it on the dyno before and after and got the +50 hp some of these companies are saying they make. It won't happen.

I'm done arguing if you think a stock air intake is the same as a CAI your ignorant. Its not going to give you 50hp, but It will bring in more air, that is cooler than a regular intake. Which inturn makes the engine run more efficiently. It's not an extreme HP gain like injectors or something like that. You're looking into the wrong aspect of the situation.

The engine only uses a 14:1 air fuel mix. Anything past that won't go into the engine. The only way to get more air to the engine is to get a bigger throttle body that will need more air to keep the 14:1 mix. There is no if and or buts about, that it hard core facts.

Another hard core fact, CAI's take warn air out of the engine bay. A stock intake like my brothers takes it out of the bumper, that is as cold as it will get. My truck gets it from the fender which is better than a "cold" air intake. If you want cold air, get a snorkel on your truck.

If you happen to have a highly modified engine where lack of air is causing a performance bottleneck, then this is something that can give real performance gains, otherwise the reality is that you are likely to see little to no gain, and maybe even a loss (because Cold Air Intake is a bit of a misnomer, and quite often they let in more hot air from the engine compartment). Also of note is the way they work: they flow more air by filtering less. While they claim to do as good of a job, I've not seen an independent tests that backup these claims and it seems likely that at best, they will not filter as well as a denser element. You may also have problems with the reusable elements if they are over oiled.