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Welcome to todays society and welcome to the black race. I hate to say it, I really, really do, but it's pretty apparent that the African American race is way too abrupt for situations like this.
I get it, Freddie dying was sad, but doing your own research will change your overall feelings. Check out his background checks and arrest records. He had an arrest record longer than all the papers I have typed in my entire life. If I counted right, he had over 12 'Distribution of Narcotics' (meth and heroine) and many many others. He ran because he had a reason to not be caught/arrested. And when you run from police, you get arrested; its called 'resisting arrest'. He deserved to be in prison, without a doubt. I have yet, to this day, seen his arrest record on public television (will provide link). Now, have you guys seen the autopsy released/leaked by the Medical Office? Probably not as it doesn't get put on CNN/Fox/MSN/etc.
Anyways, go check it out. Just like the Michael Brown autopsy, they portray a very different look. As many of you know, most of the arrest was video taped from the time he was confronted, to the time was put in the police truck. This autopsy shows injuries to his on his head that match up with bolts in the holding cell of the truck. Pointing to the fact that Gray slammed himself around in the truck possibly causing injury to his head/spine. In other statements, officers stay they heard Gray causing a scene in the truck. This was also backed up by a second suspect whom was placed in the same police truck. Once again, how could this be the case if his spine was "severed by the police force while arresting suspect"? This also backs up the autopsy report with the bolt wounds to the head.
There are also reports by his family saying Gray had had a double spine diffusion on his lower back a week prior (I cannot affirm this, nor deny it, but it's something to think about as I've read about it on many statements). Any neurologist would refuse that kind of activity for up to three weeks. If thats the case, Gray could have severed his own spine BY HIMSELF due to the fact he was doing things he shouldn't have been, right after SPINE SURGERY.
Have you heard of Brian Moore? What about Dillion Taylor? I could go on, but those are all WHITE males killed by BLACK cops. I don't see those in the media, much less the top stories for weeks. I urge you do research those cases as well. Just to get a feel for those, too!
I'm not saying believe me, I'm not saying the media is wrong (even though they're only one sided), I'm not saying I am 100% right. I am just saying, do you own research before you blame the police. It's sad that a lot of people out here are blaming them and they're getting a bad rep all over the country for it. If something happened, I would not hesitate to stand right behind that exact same police officer (and every single other one in the country) if I was in danger. I actually urge you to do something; the next time you're out and about and you see a police officer at a gas station, or a store, or getting food, go up to him and thank him/her for what they do because they don't hear that enough these days. I guarantee you it will make their day knowing that people still do 100% appreciate them. After all, they're the ones who will be saving your life one day.
Link to arrest record (I know its not "government official", but its the best one I could find with a decent article with it. Do your own research on it too, if you don't think its real. It is everywhere): [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
I am NOT trying to start anything here. I just want to get more people out of their comfort zone and to look at the wide picture of things. There is way more info than what the media shows, because they're only after ratings. They don't care about the actual case.
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I get it, Freddie dying was sad, but doing your own research will change your overall feelings. Check out his background checks and arrest records. He had an arrest record longer than all the papers I have typed in my entire life. If I counted right, he had over 12 'Distribution of Narcotics' (meth and heroine) and many many others. He ran because he had a reason to not be caught/arrested. And when you run from police, you get arrested; its called 'resisting arrest'. He deserved to be in prison, without a doubt. I have yet, to this day, seen his arrest record on public television (will provide link). Now, have you guys seen the autopsy released/leaked by the Medical Office? Probably not as it doesn't get put on CNN/Fox/MSN/etc.
Anyways, go check it out. Just like the Michael Brown autopsy, they portray a very different look. As many of you know, most of the arrest was video taped from the time he was confronted, to the time was put in the police truck. This autopsy shows injuries to his on his head that match up with bolts in the holding cell of the truck. Pointing to the fact that Gray slammed himself around in the truck possibly causing injury to his head/spine. In other statements, officers stay they heard Gray causing a scene in the truck. This was also backed up by a second suspect whom was placed in the same police truck. Once again, how could this be the case if his spine was "severed by the police force while arresting suspect"? This also backs up the autopsy report with the bolt wounds to the head.
There are also reports by his family saying Gray had had a double spine diffusion on his lower back a week prior (I cannot affirm this, nor deny it, but it's something to think about as I've read about it on many statements). Any neurologist would refuse that kind of activity for up to three weeks. If thats the case, Gray could have severed his own spine BY HIMSELF due to the fact he was doing things he shouldn't have been, right after SPINE SURGERY.
Have you heard of Brian Moore? What about Dillion Taylor? I could go on, but those are all WHITE males killed by BLACK cops. I don't see those in the media, much less the top stories for weeks. I urge you do research those cases as well. Just to get a feel for those, too!
I'm not saying believe me, I'm not saying the media is wrong (even though they're only one sided), I'm not saying I am 100% right. I am just saying, do you own research before you blame the police. It's sad that a lot of people out here are blaming them and they're getting a bad rep all over the country for it. If something happened, I would not hesitate to stand right behind that exact same police officer (and every single other one in the country) if I was in danger. I actually urge you to do something; the next time you're out and about and you see a police officer at a gas station, or a store, or getting food, go up to him and thank him/her for what they do because they don't hear that enough these days. I guarantee you it will make their day knowing that people still do 100% appreciate them. After all, they're the ones who will be saving your life one day.
Link to arrest record (I know its not "government official", but its the best one I could find with a decent article with it. Do your own research on it too, if you don't think its real. It is everywhere): [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
I am NOT trying to start anything here. I just want to get more people out of their comfort zone and to look at the wide picture of things. There is way more info than what the media shows, because they're only after ratings. They don't care about the actual case.
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Lol its crazy in Baltimore I live here its wack. But whats funny is that when a black guy shoots a white cop its fine nothing happens. I dont get it. I know noone was shot just making a point.
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xJitter wrote Lol its crazy in Baltimore I live here its wack. But whats funny is that when a black guy shoots a white cop its fine nothing happens. I dont get it. I know noone was shot just making a point.
Well exactly. I don't want to sound racist, but it is pretty apparent that they react way to fast. As a white male, I don't see my race react until its necessary to do so (evidence is released or whatever). And even after that has happened, its NEVER gotten this bad or as bad as Ferguson has. EVER
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Jeez wrotexJitter wrote Lol its crazy in Baltimore I live here its wack. But whats funny is that when a black guy shoots a white cop its fine nothing happens. I dont get it. I know noone was shot just making a point.
Well exactly. I don't want to sound racist, but it is pretty apparent that they react way to fast. As a white male, I don't see my race react until its necessary to do so (evidence is released or whatever). And even after that has happened, its NEVER gotten this bad or as bad as Ferguson has. EVER
This all essentially because of people "reacting" to fast, rather it be a cop assuming an innocent person is guilty, An angry protester thinking all cops are bad, or you assuming you know the reason every person is out protesting right now.
Some people are really protesting, and some are simply using the chaos for their own personal gain (Looting, Stealing, etc) How ever some Protesters are braking into store for supplies, such as water (for pepper spray..)
This most is to blame on the media, Networks like Fox,CNN and other major new sources, race baiting their stories, Stirring up as much controversy as their can, because well that's how you get views right?
You well never understand someone's reasoning for something unless you are that person.
I well never understand the reasoning (which could be very logically) for shooting unarmed people fleeing from police, Just as you well never understand what it feels like to be racial profiled by someone with "Power" Over you in a sense that the cops feel they have when you are pulled over (even if you are not doing anything illegal)
You can't not find a central blame point for all of this, as it's been a long time building up, but the Major Media sources are a good start..
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Gray was handcuffed and put in leg irons without having a seat belt, even though they were ordered to put the seat belt on him. He was falsely arrested for he did nothing wrong. He had a knife on him that was legal. Running from cops is not illegal unless you are under arrest, which there was no reason to arrest him. This is why some of those officers arrested now have false imprisonment charges against them. He should have never been in the back of that van to begin with. In 2005, Dondi Johnson suffered a fatal spinal injury in Baltimore when cops went on a rough ride with him when he also was handcuffed and had no seat belt on. Looks like police vans need cameras just as the police themselves do.
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Yin wrote Gray was handcuffed and put in leg irons without having a seat belt, even though they were ordered to put the seat belt on him. He was falsely arrested for he did nothing wrong. He had a knife on him that was legal. Running from cops is not illegal unless you are under arrest, which there was no reason to arrest him. This is why some of those officers arrested now have false imprisonment charges against them. He should have never been in the back of that van to begin with. In 2005, Dondi Johnson suffered a fatal spinal injury in Baltimore when cops went on a rough ride with him when he also was handcuffed and had no seat belt on. Looks like police vans need cameras just as the police themselves do.
What your describing is (somewhat) police brutality, not anything to do with race.
Racial profiling is what has driven the protests just as much as police brutality has, which doesn't make any sense.
The cop that arrested him was black, the police commissioner is black, and the mayor is black.
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Yin wrote Gray was handcuffed and put in leg irons without having a seat belt, even though they were ordered to put the seat belt on him. He was falsely arrested for he did nothing wrong. He had a knife on him that was legal. Running from cops is not illegal unless you are under arrest, which there was no reason to arrest him. This is why some of those officers arrested now have false imprisonment charges against them. He should have never been in the back of that van to begin with. In 2005, Dondi Johnson suffered a fatal spinal injury in Baltimore when cops went on a rough ride with him when he also was handcuffed and had no seat belt on. Looks like police vans need cameras just as the police themselves do.
But thats not totally true. Yes, there wasnt a warrant out for his arrest, but if you were a police officer, saw him in a decently crowded area with a knife, and ran after you trying confronting him, chances are you would pursue him. Thats how the law works. That shows he has something to hide. If he had nothing to hide, he would have used his 5th amendment and refused to talk without a lawyer and the officers would have been on their ways.
As for the truck thing, unless you're completely blasted, you can sit straight and support yourself from flying all over a car even while handcuffed. If he seriously wasnt able to, he would have laid down on the seat and been fine.
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Media make situations with African Americans worse anyway by the way to pick and choose between stories.
Not sure if you've seen this video, but go and check it out, it's not just African American citizens who get caught up in Police Brutality, it's everyone
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Jeez wroteYin wrote Gray was handcuffed and put in leg irons without having a seat belt, even though they were ordered to put the seat belt on him. He was falsely arrested for he did nothing wrong. He had a knife on him that was legal. Running from cops is not illegal unless you are under arrest, which there was no reason to arrest him. This is why some of those officers arrested now have false imprisonment charges against them. He should have never been in the back of that van to begin with. In 2005, Dondi Johnson suffered a fatal spinal injury in Baltimore when cops went on a rough ride with him when he also was handcuffed and had no seat belt on. Looks like police vans need cameras just as the police themselves do.
But thats not totally true. Yes, there wasnt a warrant out for his arrest, but if you were a police officer, saw him in a decently crowded area with a knife, and ran after you trying confronting him, chances are you would pursue him. Thats how the law works. That shows he has something to hide. If he had nothing to hide, he would have used his 5th amendment and refused to talk without a lawyer and the officers would have been on their ways.
As for the truck thing, unless you're completely blasted, you can sit straight and support yourself from flying all over a car even while handcuffed. If he seriously wasnt able to, he would have laid down on the seat and been fine.
Have you ever been in the back of a police truck ?
And This is not Nazi Germany, but by your logic, just do what ever the cops tell you to right?
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Spartan wroteJeez wroteYin wrote Gray was handcuffed and put in leg irons without having a seat belt, even though they were ordered to put the seat belt on him. He was falsely arrested for he did nothing wrong. He had a knife on him that was legal. Running from cops is not illegal unless you are under arrest, which there was no reason to arrest him. This is why some of those officers arrested now have false imprisonment charges against them. He should have never been in the back of that van to begin with. In 2005, Dondi Johnson suffered a fatal spinal injury in Baltimore when cops went on a rough ride with him when he also was handcuffed and had no seat belt on. Looks like police vans need cameras just as the police themselves do.
But thats not totally true. Yes, there wasnt a warrant out for his arrest, but if you were a police officer, saw him in a decently crowded area with a knife, and ran after you trying confronting him, chances are you would pursue him. Thats how the law works. That shows he has something to hide. If he had nothing to hide, he would have used his 5th amendment and refused to talk without a lawyer and the officers would have been on their ways.
As for the truck thing, unless you're completely blasted, you can sit straight and support yourself from flying all over a car even while handcuffed. If he seriously wasnt able to, he would have laid down on the seat and been fine.
Have you ever been in the back of a police truck ?
And This is not Nazi Germany, but by your logic, just do what ever the cops tell you to right?
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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying... If you obey a police officer and respect them, they have nothing against you... Therefore nothing will happen to you. When you disrespect them, they have reasons to figure out what the heck you're doing which could lead to bad things happening.
What if Gray just listened to the officer? They would have acted about his actions, made sure the knife was legal, and he would have been on his way.
What if Brown just listened to the officer? He would have been handcuffed, arrested, brought to the station and released 24 hours later (at the latest due to the fact he got contacted due to a robbery at a gas station down the street).
EDIT: When you disobey the law, you are a CRIMINAL. CRIMINALS belong in jail. Welcome to the legal system
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