No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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Sanctyy wrote No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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I'll second that build..It's probably the best you'll get for your money. But if I were you, I'd forget a PC right now. $300 will probably set you up on Minecraft with lag.

$500 will be the best place to start for a decent build if you want gaming. Or simply invest that 300 into starter parts. Not a full PC. Spend 300 here, 300 there. Eventually you'll get everything.

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Sanctyy wrote No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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I'll second that build..It's probably the best you'll get for your money. But if I were you, I'd forget a PC right now. $300 will probably set you up on Minecraft with lag.

$500 will be the best place to start for a decent build if you want gaming. Or simply invest that 300 into starter parts. Not a full PC. Spend 300 here, 300 there. Eventually you'll get everything.

There is no minimum cost required to build a PC. What I suggested is a perfectly good rig for $300. An APU rig is going to perform very well for it's cost. You don't know OP's financial situation, $300 could possibly be all they can afford so don't tell him he has to save more. A decent APU like the A8-7600 is not going to "set you up on Minecraft with lag", in fact, it will play even AAA titles fairly well at medium settings.

"Don't lie to the guy".

In the event this guy cannot spend more than $300 due to some horrible financial situation, I doubt he should even be getting a PC. I stand by what I say. It's a cheap build, whether it's good quality for the money itself or not. $300 won't do good.

Besides, it doesn't matter what the CPU is if the MOBO will just set it back. It WILL bottle neck. It has onboard graphics. I would LOVE to see what cheap mobo would run triple A games at fairly well at medium settings.

I have no doubt it will play glames. But it won't do triple A games at Med at the rate which you're suggesting. Again, Minecraft will lag with that. And it's a fairly CPU and RAM powered type of game. I expect this to be good mainly for Browsing and maybe streaming.

I'd be more inclined to get this:

It's a little over, but it's worth it.

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Has better upgrade abilities + a dedicated GPU, a better PSU (Antec VP-450 is class for the price).

1150 > FM2+

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Sanctyy wrote No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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I'll second that build..It's probably the best you'll get for your money. But if I were you, I'd forget a PC right now. $300 will probably set you up on Minecraft with lag.

$500 will be the best place to start for a decent build if you want gaming. Or simply invest that 300 into starter parts. Not a full PC. Spend 300 here, 300 there. Eventually you'll get everything.

There is no minimum cost required to build a PC. What I suggested is a perfectly good rig for $300. An APU rig is going to perform very well for it's cost. You don't know OP's financial situation, $300 could possibly be all they can afford so don't tell him he has to save more. A decent APU like the A8-7600 is not going to "set you up on Minecraft with lag", in fact, it will play even AAA titles fairly well at medium settings.

"Don't lie to the guy".

In the event this guy cannot spend more than $300 due to some horrible financial situation, I doubt he should even be getting a PC. I stand by what I say. It's a cheap build, whether it's good quality for the money itself or not. $300 won't do good.

Besides, it doesn't matter what the CPU is if the MOBO will just set it back. It WILL bottle neck. It has onboard graphics. I would LOVE to see what cheap mobo would run triple A games at fairly well at medium settings.

I have no doubt it will play glames. But it won't do triple A games at Med at the rate which you're suggesting. Again, Minecraft will lag with that. And it's a fairly CPU and RAM powered type of game. I expect this to be good mainly for Browsing and maybe streaming.

You have no Idea what you are talking about. The motherboard won't keep a system from playing AAA games. It doesn't effect performance either. The only thing it truly limits is over clocking.

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Sanctyy wrote No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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I'll second that build..It's probably the best you'll get for your money. But if I were you, I'd forget a PC right now. $300 will probably set you up on Minecraft with lag.

$500 will be the best place to start for a decent build if you want gaming. Or simply invest that 300 into starter parts. Not a full PC. Spend 300 here, 300 there. Eventually you'll get everything.

There is no minimum cost required to build a PC. What I suggested is a perfectly good rig for $300. An APU rig is going to perform very well for it's cost. You don't know OP's financial situation, $300 could possibly be all they can afford so don't tell him he has to save more. A decent APU like the A8-7600 is not going to "set you up on Minecraft with lag", in fact, it will play even AAA titles fairly well at medium settings.

"Don't lie to the guy".

In the event this guy cannot spend more than $300 due to some horrible financial situation, I doubt he should even be getting a PC. I stand by what I say. It's a cheap build, whether it's good quality for the money itself or not. $300 won't do good.

Besides, it doesn't matter what the CPU is if the MOBO will just set it back. It WILL bottle neck. It has onboard graphics. I would LOVE to see what cheap mobo would run triple A games at fairly well at medium settings.

I have no doubt it will play glames. But it won't do triple A games at Med at the rate which you're suggesting. Again, Minecraft will lag with that. And it's a fairly CPU and RAM powered type of game. I expect this to be good mainly for Browsing and maybe streaming.

You have no Idea what you are talking about. The motherboard won't keep a system from playing AAA games. It doesn't effect performance either. The only thing it truly limits is over clocking.

You've no idea what you're talking about. This build literally is not meant for running games. If you think a mobo doesn't effect gameplay, people wouldn't spend 300+ on major brands. Besides, it's not just the mobo. It's the over all build. The whole thing is point blank worthless. Even profession IT's will tell you that. The computer, point blank, is not worth building if you expect to do anything beyong casual gaming with lag. The guy might as well buy a laptop for the same price.

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Sanctyy wrote No, the 610 is a huge waste and CX430 is a pretty poor PSU.

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I'll second that build..It's probably the best you'll get for your money. But if I were you, I'd forget a PC right now. $300 will probably set you up on Minecraft with lag.

$500 will be the best place to start for a decent build if you want gaming. Or simply invest that 300 into starter parts. Not a full PC. Spend 300 here, 300 there. Eventually you'll get everything.

There is no minimum cost required to build a PC. What I suggested is a perfectly good rig for $300. An APU rig is going to perform very well for it's cost. You don't know OP's financial situation, $300 could possibly be all they can afford so don't tell him he has to save more. A decent APU like the A8-7600 is not going to "set you up on Minecraft with lag", in fact, it will play even AAA titles fairly well at medium settings.

"Don't lie to the guy".

In the event this guy cannot spend more than $300 due to some horrible financial situation, I doubt he should even be getting a PC. I stand by what I say. It's a cheap build, whether it's good quality for the money itself or not. $300 won't do good.

Besides, it doesn't matter what the CPU is if the MOBO will just set it back. It WILL bottle neck. It has onboard graphics. I would LOVE to see what cheap mobo would run triple A games at fairly well at medium settings.

I have no doubt it will play glames. But it won't do triple A games at Med at the rate which you're suggesting. Again, Minecraft will lag with that. And it's a fairly CPU and RAM powered type of game. I expect this to be good mainly for Browsing and maybe streaming.

You have no Idea what you are talking about. The motherboard won't keep a system from playing AAA games. It doesn't effect performance either. The only thing it truly limits is over clocking.

You've no idea what you're talking about. This build literally is not meant for running games. If you think a mobo doesn't effect gameplay, people wouldn't spend 300+ on major brands. Besides, it's not just the mobo. It's the over all build. The whole thing is point blank worthless. Even profession IT's will tell you that. The computer, point blank, is not worth building if you expect to do anything beyong casual gaming with lag. The guy might as well buy a laptop for the same price.

Well. In your first reply you said the motherboard will bottleneck the build... How?

The motherboard won't bottleneck anything to do with graphics, as that is handled by the APU, it just simply plugs into the motherboard, nothing more.

But i do agree that this build is not built for gaming, but the one i provided could be.

The mobo itself won't bottle neck it. I meant that the whole system will bottleneck. It's not meant for gaming, and running any games will try to force out more than the system can handle all together.

And yours could be used for it, better than this one at least. It at least has a GPU of actual use. Integrated graphics aren't good in most cases.