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do you guys think there are more humans out there? or just aliens. and do you think we will ever have official contact?
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I hope so, normal humans are stupid.
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Ethnicity wrote I hope so, normal humans are stupid.
but like have you ever really thought of it why do people bring up these weird looking things
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The reason people bring up completely different looking things when we talk about aliens is because of something called the Butterfly effect.
It's not normally used in this context, but I think I can make it fit.

The butterfly effect is basically the theory that a mosquito flapping it's wings in the Amazon can affect wind variations in Texas.
Basically, small things lead to big changes.

The history that has led to us being here, evolving the way we have evolved have been affected by billions of different tiny changes.

Think about it like this, if the Dinosaurs hadn't of been wiped out, we would probably still be crawling around in holes in the ground as mammals.
An astronomical chance of that Asteroid hitting Earth at that moment.

If one of those mammals had of been caught in the blast, you might not even have been here.

The atmosphere of Earth and all of it's changes, animals that we live alongside, dangers we've faced since the beginning of humanity, even the shape of the land and the amount of water on the planet have affected the way that we have evolved.

So, to assume that everything went the same on another planet and there's another race of 'humans' waiting to be discovered seems incredibly unlikely.

I would go as far as to say that you would need an exact replica of our entire history and our solar system to get humans out there somewhere.
The chances of that, near 0.


So, while I believe in Aliens, I don't think that there are other Humans out there.
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I believe there are aliens beacuse if you think really hard into the past some things just dont seem right. Like how fast they would build pyrmids and how fast they would build temples and such. I personally think aliens came a long time ago.
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XeDJ wrote I believe there are aliens beacuse if you think really hard into the past some things just dont seem right. Like how fast they would build pyrmids and how fast they would build temples and such. I personally think aliens came a long time ago.


It's only come to light recently that it's not actually that hard to build a pyramid.
Everyone has this idea of hundreds of thousands of slaves pulling at ropes to drag these huge blocks through the sand, but it was actually a few hundred very skilled workers who were well fed, had the best accommodation and were just generally well looked after.

As for the whole dragging the rocks, they would actually bend wood and attach it to each side of the blocks, which basically turned them into wheels.
From there it's a lot easier to move them.
They also failed quite a few times to build pyramids.
Some Pharaohs were buried in wonky pyramids, or ones that were incomplete.

I used to be a big believe in the Ancient Aliens theory, and part of me still is, for instance, I simply don't understand how you see the same Gods cropping up across different belief systems from times when civilizations were completely cut off from one another.

History is just weird.
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Capo wrote The reason people bring up completely different looking things when we talk about aliens is because of something called the Butterfly effect.
It's not normally used in this context, but I think I can make it fit.

The butterfly effect is basically the theory that a mosquito flapping it's wings in the Amazon can affect wind variations in Texas.
Basically, small things lead to big changes.

The history that has led to us being here, evolving the way we have evolved have been affected by billions of different tiny changes.

Think about it like this, if the Dinosaurs hadn't of been wiped out, we would probably still be crawling around in holes in the ground as mammals.
An astronomical chance of that Asteroid hitting Earth at that moment.

If one of those mammals had of been caught in the blast, you might not even have been here.

The atmosphere of Earth and all of it's changes, animals that we live alongside, dangers we've faced since the beginning of humanity, even the shape of the land and the amount of water on the planet have affected the way that we have evolved.

So, to assume that everything went the same on another planet and there's another race of 'humans' waiting to be discovered seems incredibly unlikely.

I would go as far as to say that you would need an exact replica of our entire history and our solar system to get humans out there somewhere.
The chances of that, near 0.


So, while I believe in Aliens, I don't think that there are other Humans out there.


I believe that there are humanoids out there, because we may of been made by a greater being in their image. Not trying to get all religious by saying that, i mean that in a different way. Maybe Earth and its inhabitants are just some long forgotten science project. Anything is possible.
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Well the way other life forms would look is all decided on where they are in the Universe, for example, if there was a life form that was living in a dark, cold planet with a G force of 10 they would have bigger eyes and they would also be black because they would be light sensitive they would also have big muscles in there body's so they can cope with high G force's, with the planet being cold they would have very hairy body to keep them warm..

There are a lot of factors that need to be taken into consideration as to what another life form ("alien") would look like.

If there was a life form that looked the same as a human they would have to be living in very similar condition as we are now, which would cause to have very similar features to us.

Edit: Also for people who don't think "aliens" exist at all it is mathematically impossible for them not to there has to be at least one other life form in existence, but as for human look a like I think there could be another race that looks like us some where in the Universe because after all it is possible.

The Drake equation:
This is works out how many other life forms could be in the universe.
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where:

N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible (i.e. which are on our current past light cone);

and
R* = the average rate of star formation in our galaxy

FP = the fraction of those stars that have planets

NE = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets

FL = the fraction of planets that could support life that actually develop life at some point

FI = the fraction of planets with life that actually go on to develop intelligent life (civilizations)

FC = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space

L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space


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