I never found Steve jobs inspiring, he is the same as everyone else, and so is Apple, they are just a whole lot better at hiding it.

RDCA wrote I never found Steve jobs inspiring, he is the same as everyone else, and so is Apple, they are just a whole lot better at hiding it.

Sorry for a bit of a misleading title. I meant the video was inspirational, not Steve Jobs or Apple as a whole. He was only the speaker.

RDCA wrote I never found Steve jobs inspiring, he is the same as everyone else, and so is Apple, they are just a whole lot better at hiding it.

Arrogant now are we?

He was a genius, the world will never have anyone like him, he's to great.

Maybe read a little about him, like his biography by Walter Isaacson, and learn a little.

Can we not turn this into a flame war?

"Stay hungry. Stay foolish."
My favorite part.

Affinity wrote

RDCA wrote I never found Steve jobs inspiring, he is the same as everyone else, and so is Apple, they are just a whole lot better at hiding it.

Arrogant now are we?

He was a genius, the world will never have anyone like him, he's to great.

Maybe read a little about him, like his biography by Walter Isaacson, and learn a little.

I have been known to be arrogant at times, but this has nothing to do with it.

Steve Jobs was not a genius, he was manipulative. He uses people to achieve what he wants. Though lots of people see through his smoke and to what he does. He uses China as his btch basically. He abuses the conditions people are in in order to gain what he wants. There are reasons why this wouldn't work in other countries. They are getting paid roughly 1.50 and hour or so. Lets just be a bit generous and round up to $2. Now most of them work 14-16 hours a day so lets just 15. That means in a year they make: $10,800 a year. Now this may seem like a lot, but this is less then a new car costs. Plus they pay to leave there and eat. The food they serve is white rice, and some kind of cheap meat.

Now the scary part is, 7 years ago the pay was half of what it is now. So they only made about 5.5K a year. For those of you who have scene the ABC video on it, ever thought of this. ABC is owned by Disney, and the single largest stock holder in Disney is guess who, Apple. What that video shows is the best conditions.


As for Steve Jobs history, I know a lot about it. He actually only serves as a inspiration to me in one way, his brutality. If he didn't like it, he wouldn't take it. Other wise he manipulates the public in America and other places around the world.

Someone who is inspiring to me would do the best for all people, not just better. As for the "world will never have anyone like him" part, we have, we do, and we will. They will always be manipulators who can sheave their attributes to many and become sucessful in monetary gains. But in my eyes, true Success is to positively affect the lives of everyone you can. Steve Jobs just gives other people positive affects from the negative he gives others.

Maybe I think like this do to my love of the Patrones et Cleintes system of the Romans, where those who had money would help others, and they would show appreciation.

Nunc ambulabo in agros Elysium.

Also on a sidenote, I didn't find the speech that inspiring, it seemed more like a story about him than anything.

RDCA wrote

Affinity wrote

RDCA wrote I never found Steve jobs inspiring, he is the same as everyone else, and so is Apple, they are just a whole lot better at hiding it.

Arrogant now are we?

He was a genius, the world will never have anyone like him, he's to great.

Maybe read a little about him, like his biography by Walter Isaacson, and learn a little.

I have been known to be arrogant at times, but this has nothing to do with it.

Steve Jobs was not a genius, he was manipulative. He uses people to achieve what he wants. Though lots of people see through his smoke and to what he does. He uses China as his btch basically. He abuses the conditions people are in in order to gain what he wants. There are reasons why this wouldn't work in other countries. They are getting paid roughly 1.50 and hour or so. Lets just be a bit generous and round up to $2. Now most of them work 14-16 hours a day so lets just 15. That means in a year they make: $10,800 a year. Now this may seem like a lot, but this is less then a new car costs. Plus they pay to leave there and eat. The food they serve is white rice, and some kind of cheap meat.

Now the scary part is, 7 years ago the pay was half of what it is now. So they only made about 5.5K a year. For those of you who have scene the ABC video on it, ever thought of this. ABC is owned by Disney, and the single largest stock holder in Disney is guess who, Apple. What that video shows is the best conditions.


As for Steve Jobs history, I know a lot about it. He actually only serves as a inspiration to me in one way, his brutality. If he didn't like it, he wouldn't take it. Other wise he manipulates the public in America and other places around the world.

Someone who is inspiring to me would do the best for all people, not just better. As for the "world will never have anyone like him" part, we have, we do, and we will. They will always be manipulators who can sheave their attributes to many and become sucessful in monetary gains. But in my eyes, true Success is to positively affect the lives of everyone you can. Steve Jobs just gives other people positive affects from the negative he gives others.

Maybe I think like this do to my love of the Patrones et Cleintes system of the Romans, where those who had money would help others, and they would show appreciation.

Nunc ambulabo in agros Elysium.

Also on a sidenote, I didn't find the speech that inspiring, it seemed more like a story about him than anything.

Great post, although I am sorry that you didn't find it as inspiring as I did, despite our common thoughts on him.

Also, what exactly, does that bit mean? Referring to "Nunc ambulabo in agros Elysium."

"Now, I will walk in Elysium fields." That is the translation, you won't understand and in order for me to explain it I would have to explain Elysium and then why I put it here, sorry but that is too much effort. Maybe take some Latin and philosophy classes and you will know what I mean.

yea that was deep