DONT FLAME ABOUT THIS IF YOU THINK HE IS DEAD.. I JUST FOUND THIS AND I AM SHARING IT!!
I PERSONALLY THINK HE IS DEAD.


(this is not mine i found it ~all credit goes to Shakeel Anjum from thenews. com

ISLAMABAD: While the world seems eager to join in the jubilation of the United States over the killing of the worlds Most Wanted Terrorist, Osama bin Laden, speculation is rife among Pakistani intelligence officials whether the men killed at theOsama bin Laden at all.

Isnt the picture of the person riddled with bullets, released by US attackers, of Osamas son who was killed during the operation? an official attached with investigative agencies questioned. He is not the only one in Pakistans intelligence agencies who finds it hard to believe, given the sketchy evidence, that Osama bin Laden was present in the hideaway when the attack was conducted.

This is probably the second, if not the third, time that Osama bin Laden has been killed or died a natural death, a senior intelligence official told The News on condition of anonymity. The story has such wide, gaping holes in it that its hard to fully believe it, even for a gullible person. The main question is: why were US forces in such a hurry to leave the compound? Why could they not wait for some credible Pakistani authorities to join them after they had successfully accomplished their task?

Intelligence officials here say even if they could believe that there were genuine fears of intelligence failure if the US had made its intentions known to Pakistan, the US should at least have taken bin Ladens dead body to the Bagram Base in Afghanistan and let the leaders of partners from Nato and other countries have a look at the corpse of the worlds most wanted terrorist.

The haste to get rid of the body has created some very serious doubts about the whole operation and about the US claim of nabbing Osama bin Laden, said a senior intelligence official. This time, the US kept everything under thick wraps, which has raised intense suspicions.

When questioned about the statement by US authorities that the video film of bin Ladens burial would be released soon, the intelligence sources questioned, What is that going to prove? Who is going to believe whose body or remains have been photographed, videotaped, wrapped in that shroud and dumped into the ocean from the deck of an aircraft carrier of the United States of America? How will that be enough proof that the body in that bag, dumped into the ocean, was Osama bin Ladens? he asked.

Another suspicious piece of information is American authorities claim that the blood sample of bin Ladens sister, who died of cancer in the USA a few years ago, matched the blood sample of Osama bin Laden, taken after he was killed in Abbottabad. The problem is, Osama was one of 54 scions of Muhammad bin Laden. Why did American authorities not take blood samples from the brothers and sisters who are alive and healthy; why did they match Osamas blood samples with a deceased relative?

Yet another interesting question is why the Americans did not preserve his body for a proper DNA test and formal burial. What was the hurry, first to take his body directly to the aircraft carrier docked somewhere in the ocean, and then, within hours, to perform his last rites, which the Americans claim they did in accordance with Islamic guidelines? Why get rid of his body in this way, by throwing it into the ocean, so there is now no chance to recover his remains and confirm that the deceased was actually Osama bin Laden? a senior intelligence official told The News.

A security official added: Why should anyone believe that bin Laden hasnt been dead for a long time now but the US decided to tell the world only when it has to start pulling out of Afghanistan and the next presidential election is around the corner (2012)?


People looking for an excuse to raise their eyebrows hardly needed the fake photographs when they had bin Ladens speedy ocean burial. I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid, wrote Cindy Sheehan on Facebook. Just think to yourselfthey paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were deadwhy do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? U.S. officials say bin Ladens body was buried quickly, in accordance with Islamic tradition, and buried at sea in order to deprive his followers of a shrine to visit, the Washington Post reports. But the quick disposal of the body combined with the lack of an authentic photographand ancillary coincidences, like that bin Laden was killed on the date President Bush declared mission accomplishedmakes the operation ripe for conspiracy theories.

One of the theories currently making the rounds is not that bin Laden is still alive, but that he was killed years ago. The theory has been in circulation essentially since the September 11 attacks. Variations abound, but the general claim is that bin Laden was killed in 2001, either in battle or by sickness, and every video and image weve seen of him since has been a fake used by the Bush administration to justify involvement in the Middle East.

We have a right to view our nations tormentor face to face, to make sure he is dead, and to spit on him if we choose.

David Griffin, former professor of philosophy of religion at Claremont School of Theology and author of Osama bin Laden Dead or Alive, has been raising questions about the authenticity of bin Ladens tapes for years, pointing to seeming inconsistencies like changes in the al Qaeda leaders weight or the fact that in one video he writes with his right hand instead of his left. Occasional comments by U.S. and Afghan officials like FBI counterterrorism chief Dale Watson or Afghan President Hamid Karzai that bin Ladin was probably dead kept the theory alive. The extreme version of the theory, put forward just now by Alex Jones, is that the Bush administration, and then Obama, was holding bin Ladens body, waiting to unveil it at a politically expedient time.

Proving that theres never a politically inexpedient time to unveil the killing of the worlds most-wanted terrorist, some are pointing to the birther imbroglio as the controversy Obama is trying to sweep under the rug with Osamas killing. The use of a boogeyman is of course indispensable in political contexts like this with Obama under pressure for his birth certificate and the atrocities in Pakistan, says Jim Fetzer, founder of the 9/11 Scholars for Truth. Asked why Bush wouldnt have reaped the benefits of killing bin Laden for himself, Fetzer said that he was too useful for propagandic purposes. Jones and Kurt Nimmo also point out that Obamas announcement follows the release of a highly suspicious birth certificate last week.

Not surprisingly, a photograph isnt going to put an end to a theory the crux of which is that every image and video weve seen of bin Laden is fake. There are too many ways to fake it, says Fetzer, pointing to The Guardian report on British papers falling for the doctored photograph. As for the DNA match with bin Ladens sister, who died of cancer in Boston and whose brain was preserved for just this eventuality, Fetzer says it happened too quickly. You have to have the body, says Fetzer.

At Andrew Breitbarts Big Peace blog, J. Michael Waller is also calling for the body, for reasons both epistemological and emotional. Proposing to put bin Ladens corpse on display at the World Trade Center site, he says We have a right to view our nations tormentor face to face, to make sure he is dead, and to spit on him if we choose. The corpse should be digitally scanned, inside and outand made available for everyone to take his or her own picture.

Those waiting to see the body will be disappointed, but they may still get a photograph. According to the Los Angeles Times, Pentagon officials have pictures of bin Ladens corpse and are debating whether to release them. On the one hand, the photos are quite gruesome. On the other, they might be necessarythough possibly not sufficientto silence the skeptics.