Motivational wrote

Anytime you do something there will always be consequence to our actions. Lets say we ban all guns. We are in the same situation (Pulse shooting), no one can defend themselves, now more are dead. Not its all over the news that we made a terrible decision banning guns. It's bad no matter what. Lets say someone in pulse had a gun and takes out the gunman shortly after he started firing, now less are dead and injured. To me, the problem is not the gun itself, but the people. We as Americans need to stop blaming the guns for our problem and teach our citizen how to act. I mean it's unbelievable how childish our country acts. We don't act a whole, we basically pick sides of two extremes and fight to see who wins. It's a joke. Our three best candidates for the next presidency are a joke. I mean Hilary is a criminal, Trump is unrealistic, and Bernie live in a fairy tale where we can help every single person on the world. It's sad really.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you ban all guns because it's simply not going to work. We're suggesting that more restrictions are put on them.

Otherwise, I agree completely with what you're saying about the presidency situation and how more education is needed to teach people that it's wrong to kill someone.

@Mocro

For those of you too lazy to Google here is his source gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/g...countries/

If you actually looked at these sources, you'd notice that some of the articles that his facts are based off were written over twenty years ago. You can understand why people don't think that the facts are legitimate and up to date.

More like they were denying it's very existence. They were talking about the ban on guns in the UK which was in the nineties. So they are relevant for the time.

More like they were denying it's very existence. They were talking about the ban on guns in the UK which was in the nineties. So they are relevant for the time.

Yes, they were relevant for that time, but they're not relevant today.

Comparing crime rates in the UK vs America and trying to justify that there's more crime in the UK is completely pointless. It's safer to live in the UK without doubt in terms of crimes.

The majority of these facts are not true. Just read the bottom of the page. I'm sorry but a newspaper written for the purpose of selling as many copies as physically possible is not a credible source. Fair enough, the articles written by Universities are probably legitimate but the BBC, guardian and telegraph are not legitimate sources.

Less guns = Less gun crimes. That's simple economies with supply and demand. All these illegal gun dealers are not making their guns, they're buying them off their suppliers who have a legitimate licenses and are purchasing their weapons from the local gun store. We need to make handguns and assault rifles illegal to reduce this kind of thing from happening IMO.

Motivational wrote

More like they were denying it's very existence. They were talking about the ban on guns in the UK which was in the nineties. So they are relevant for the time.

Yes, they were relevant for that time, but they're not relevant today.

Comparing crime rates in the UK vs America and trying to justify that there's more crime in the UK is completely pointless. It's safer to live in the UK without doubt in terms of crimes.

The majority of these facts are not true. Just read the bottom of the page. I'm sorry but a newspaper written for the purpose of selling as many copies as physically possible is not a credible source. Fair enough, the articles written by Universities are probably legitimate but the BBC, guardian and telegraph are not legitimate sources.


Less guns = Less gun crimes. That's simple economies with supply and demand. All these illegal gun dealers are not making their guns, they're buying them off their suppliers who have a legitimate licenses and are purchasing their weapons from the local gun store. We need to make handguns and assault rifles illegal to reduce this kind of thing from happening IMO.

If we ban all guns, that means that American owned and operated gun manufacturers would not longer be in business. So wouldn't that hurt our economy.

$6 billion Estimated revenue generated by the gun and ammunition industry in the U.S., according to an analysis by business research firm Hoovers

Pepperoni wrote

Motivational wrote

More like they were denying it's very existence. They were talking about the ban on guns in the UK which was in the nineties. So they are relevant for the time.

Yes, they were relevant for that time, but they're not relevant today.

Comparing crime rates in the UK vs America and trying to justify that there's more crime in the UK is completely pointless. It's safer to live in the UK without doubt in terms of crimes.

The majority of these facts are not true. Just read the bottom of the page. I'm sorry but a newspaper written for the purpose of selling as many copies as physically possible is not a credible source. Fair enough, the articles written by Universities are probably legitimate but the BBC, guardian and telegraph are not legitimate sources.


Less guns = Less gun crimes. That's simple economies with supply and demand. All these illegal gun dealers are not making their guns, they're buying them off their suppliers who have a legitimate licenses and are purchasing their weapons from the local gun store. We need to make handguns and assault rifles illegal to reduce this kind of thing from happening IMO.

If we ban all guns, that means that American owned and operated gun manufacturers would not longer be in business. So wouldn't that hurt our economy.

$6 billion Estimated revenue generated by the gun and ammunition industry in the U.S., according to an analysis by business research firm Hoovers

When did I say ban all guns? I don't agree with banning all guns. I simply said that assault rifles and handguns should be banned. That will do very little damage to the American market.

Why should I have to have all my guns taken away because of others. America is about the freedom. Yeah I agree a lot of people are popped a year, but you need to understand, it's not the guns it's the people behind them. We don't need any gun laws. What we need is stronger background checks for those attempting to purchase.

Motivational wrote

Pepperoni wrote

Motivational wrote

More like they were denying it's very existence. They were talking about the ban on guns in the UK which was in the nineties. So they are relevant for the time.

Yes, they were relevant for that time, but they're not relevant today.

Comparing crime rates in the UK vs America and trying to justify that there's more crime in the UK is completely pointless. It's safer to live in the UK without doubt in terms of crimes.

The majority of these facts are not true. Just read the bottom of the page. I'm sorry but a newspaper written for the purpose of selling as many copies as physically possible is not a credible source. Fair enough, the articles written by Universities are probably legitimate but the BBC, guardian and telegraph are not legitimate sources.


Less guns = Less gun crimes. That's simple economies with supply and demand. All these illegal gun dealers are not making their guns, they're buying them off their suppliers who have a legitimate licenses and are purchasing their weapons from the local gun store. We need to make handguns and assault rifles illegal to reduce this kind of thing from happening IMO.

If we ban all guns, that means that American owned and operated gun manufacturers would not longer be in business. So wouldn't that hurt our economy.

$6 billion Estimated revenue generated by the gun and ammunition industry in the U.S., according to an analysis by business research firm Hoovers

When did I say ban all guns? I don't agree with banning all guns. I simply said that assault rifles and handguns should be banned. That will do very little damage to the American market.

Never said you did. I said if... I think hunting rifles,handguns, and shotguns are fine. I don't think anyone NEEDS a "assault" rifle. I think they are unnecessary and should be used by the military

THQ wrote Why should I have to have all my guns taken away because of others. America is about the freedom. Yeah I agree a lot of people are popped a year, but you need to understand, it's not the guns it's the people behind them. We don't need any gun laws. What we need is stronger background checks for those attempting to purchase.

I agree. The background checks are a joke. When I bought my gun it took maybe 20 minutes. I went in, signed a few things and then waited for my background check. Way too easy.

Pepperoni wrote

THQ wrote Why should I have to have all my guns taken away because of others. America is about the freedom. Yeah I agree a lot of people are popped a year, but you need to understand, it's not the guns it's the people behind them. We don't need any gun laws. What we need is stronger background checks for those attempting to purchase.

I agree. The background checks are a joke. When I bought my gun it took maybe 20 minutes. I went in, signed a few things and then waited for my background check. Way too easy.

So what else can they do?

002 wrote

Pepperoni wrote

THQ wrote Why should I have to have all my guns taken away because of others. America is about the freedom. Yeah I agree a lot of people are popped a year, but you need to understand, it's not the guns it's the people behind them. We don't need any gun laws. What we need is stronger background checks for those attempting to purchase.

I agree. The background checks are a joke. When I bought my gun it took maybe 20 minutes. I went in, signed a few things and then waited for my background check. Way too easy.

So what else can they do?

Nice little article I read.

"Americans overwhelmingly support background checks. Surveys show that 92 percent of Americansincluding 82 percent of gun owners and 74 percent of NRA memberssupport criminal background checks for all gun sales.

But under pressure from the gun lobby, Congress and most states have failed to close the deadly loopholes in the background check system.

Federal law only requires licensed gun dealers to conduct background checks. That means that millions of guns are exchanged each year without a checkmost often online or at gun shows through unlicensed private sellers. Felons, domestic abusers, the seriously mentally ill, and other dangerous people know about this loophole, and they exploit it every day.

Its like having two lines at the airportone with security, and one without. And criminals get to choose. Thats why criminals are flocking to unregulated online gun saleswhere they can buy guns, with no background check and no questions asked.

Closing this private sale loophole is the simplest way to shut down criminals easy access to guns. Since the background check system was started, it has blocked more than two million sales to dangerous people, and a background check takes only a few minutes to complete.

We also need to make sure the background check database is complete. States and federal agencies have failed to send hundreds of thousands of records to the national background check databases. Every missing record is another tragedy waiting to happen. The Virginia Tech shooter, who killed 32 people, was banned from buying guns because a court found him severely mentally ill. But he passed a background check because his records never made it into the system.

There is no better way to reduce gun deaths in America than strengthening the background check system."

002 wrote

Pepperoni wrote

THQ wrote Why should I have to have all my guns taken away because of others. America is about the freedom. Yeah I agree a lot of people are popped a year, but you need to understand, it's not the guns it's the people behind them. We don't need any gun laws. What we need is stronger background checks for those attempting to purchase.

I agree. The background checks are a joke. When I bought my gun it took maybe 20 minutes. I went in, signed a few things and then waited for my background check. Way too easy.

So what else can they do?

well I can only speak for my state, Tennessee, but they are in the right direction I suppose, for handguns only unfortunately. When buying a handgun here you have to sign papers as with any gun, but they require you to fingerprint, and after that they make you wait 3 days and during that time they "run background checks" and after the 3 day period you can come and assuming all is cleared out they give you the gun. Well oddly enough, while this has helped a bit for handguns any other type of weapon that's store bought that i know of especially a shotgun, you walk in you pick it out sign papers pay and you have a gun. I think if you want to buy a weapon you should have to register for owning a gun and take a mental test before you are eligible of buying. I'm pro gun and I think that it would be safer if it went something like this.