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I always thought the same if everyone had the idea that their vote didn't count how would also those single votes turn to millions?
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Well it's gonna be Trump v. Hilary and they're both shitty so I'm not gonna bother
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3. Trump does not want to deport all Muslims? Where are you getting this fabricated information from? He wants to temporary ban Muslims from entering the United States - which in some peoples eyes, is very necessary. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him on that specific point, but you see what is happening around the world. It wouldn't be a bad idea to say "Look - we have a problem. Let's take a step back and analyze the situation." There has also been instances in the past where the United States has banned immigrants from entering the country. Trump wouldn't be the only one who has passed anti-immigration laws before.
4. It's funny that you mentioned the four bankruptcies, but left out the hundreds of successful companies and buildings that he owns/has built. He used the law to his advantage when he filed for bankruptcy four times. He filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy every time, which ultimately is a smart business decision. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company. Yes, even if you have to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, it isn't a positive thing, but three of the four buildings were Casino's, which have been on a steady decline. While Trump is at fault, in reality, much of it was out of his control (struggling Casino industry.)
He is a negotiator. He knows how to make the best deals and will for this country. We have such a trade deficit with other countries that it is embarrassing. Mexico, Japan, China are all countries that are killing us on trade. None of the other candidates have a clue about negotiating deals and actually wanting to help the United States in the aspect of trade. Obama and his administration passed the TPP (which will ultimately hurt our economy even more. Such a disaster).
You're whole statement was so hard to read because you just don't have a clue.
6. He has a $8 billion net worth. He could continue to build buildings and make more money, as well as not having to worry about a thing in this world. However, he decides to run for President. He doesn't have to do this. Our country is a mess right now and he genuinely wants to help. Our country gets offended by everything that isn't political correct, and quite frankly, it is embarrassing.
But look, we could just elect Hillary, who let innocent people die in Benghazi and is most likely going to get indicted for her embarrassing classified private email scandal. But, what do I know.
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I would, but honestly it would take me a very long time to explain my reasoning behind it. Basically, I shouldn't have said that it's not true at all as there is actually a some truth to his opinion, however, most of his statement is false.
Of course each political party has its similarities, but there are also a ton of differences between the two, such as social views etc... (Use google, there is a lot of information about it).
The thing about politicians is that they are all bought by special interest and lobbyists. If you don't know what lobbying is then here - "lobbying, any attempt by individuals or private interest groups to influence the decisions of government; in its original meaning it referred to efforts to influence the votes of legislators, generally in the lobby outside the legislative chamber."
I don't agree with it and it's one of the reasons that I am leaning towards voting for Trump. He is self-funding his campaign. He is not being bought by anyone and he is making is own decisions, which is what many people are looking for in this country.
1. They both support wars - Agreed (some people in each respective party are against wars, but look up who signed on for the Iraq war in both parties)
2. They both support bombing people - Agreed (I mean most people support bombing terrorists)
3. They both support reducing our freedoms - Disagree - I genuinely think Trump is a President that is for the people. He is in favor of the second amendment, which permits us to legally bear arms, while the democrats are looking to take away that right.
4. They both will spend trillions putting us more into debt - Disagree. Most of the politicians in this race are full of it when it comes to decreasing our debt. The only candidates that I would support for decreasing our debt is Donald Trump and John Kasich. Kasich has been known for his ability to decrease debt, which is why I like him for that reason only, but he lacks in every other department. Trump is a businessman. He will make deals and they will be great deals. We have such a bad trade deficit with other countries, and I believe that Trump will fix that. Look at the US Census Data, we are losing in trade against so many countries it is embarrassing.
Bernie Sanders only wants to add to the debt. He is offering free healthcare and free college. Who is going to pay for that? Increase taxes? Last time I checked nobody wants their taxes increased. Bernie is a spender.
Our country spends $4.1 billion per year to educate and care for illegal immigrants. We are wasting so much money in the United States it's crazy. I suggest you to look up the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership). An awful deal that will not help the national debt one bit.
5. They both support big government - Agreed
6. They don't care about us - True and False - If you ask me if Hillary Clinton cares about the citizens, I would say no. I think Bernie Sanders cares about citizens. He wants to give us free healthcare and college - Who doesn't want free stuff? However, it would not be productive for our country moving forward for having that. College isn't a right, it's a privilege. Look up reasons why it shouldn't be free on google. I, once again, think Trump cares about Americans. He is not bought by anyone. He doesn't need to run for President. He has such a comfortable life and successful business that he simply doesn't need to do all of this. He genuinely wants to help this country and make it better.
Hillary cannot be trusted as the President. She is a national security risk and she has been a part of the government for a long time and nothing has gotten better. What makes you think she can improve our country if she has been at it for so long? Bernie Sanders will not get the nomination. Ted Cruz/John Kasich have no strength or leadership and cannot beat Hillary in a general election. Trump is the only candidate who has a chance of beating Hillary in a general election, and honestly, Hillary in the White House would not be good for our country.
iCamp wroteMiss wrote Why you shouldn't vote (at least not for D or R): both parties are virtually the same thing (both wings on the same bird). They both will support wars, they both will support bombing people, they both will support reducing our freedoms, they both will spend trillions putting us more into debt, they both support big government, and neither of them care about you or anyone in the country. You'd have to be extremely naive to believe they do. No matter who you vote for, you're not going to get what you want, and said winner will not do anything to benefit you. So technically anyone that does vote, contributes to the downfall of this country. If you're going to vote, do some research, look at third-party contestants, and actually read their policies, not just what they say on the screen.
I don't vote, nor am I registered, because of this and I just don't care. I just sit back and watch the show.
END THE TWO-PARTY SYSTEM.
This is not ultimately true.
Could you elaborate and give us some reasons as to why it's not true? Because three of us have agreed with him so far.
I would, but honestly it would take me a very long time to explain my reasoning behind it. Basically, I shouldn't have said that it's not true at all as there is actually a some truth to his opinion, however, most of his statement is false.
Of course each political party has its similarities, but there are also a ton of differences between the two, such as social views etc... (Use google, there is a lot of information about it).
The thing about politicians is that they are all bought by special interest and lobbyists. If you don't know what lobbying is then here - "lobbying, any attempt by individuals or private interest groups to influence the decisions of government; in its original meaning it referred to efforts to influence the votes of legislators, generally in the lobby outside the legislative chamber."
I don't agree with it and it's one of the reasons that I am leaning towards voting for Trump. He is self-funding his campaign. He is not being bought by anyone and he is making is own decisions, which is what many people are looking for in this country.
They both will support wars, they both will support bombing people, they both will support reducing our freedoms, they both will spend trillions putting us more into debt, they both support big government, and neither of them care about you or anyone in the country.
1. They both support wars - Agreed (some people in each respective party are against wars, but look up who signed on for the Iraq war in both parties)
2. They both support bombing people - Agreed (I mean most people support bombing terrorists)
3. They both support reducing our freedoms - Disagree - I genuinely think Trump is a President that is for the people. He is in favor of the second amendment, which permits us to legally bear arms, while the democrats are looking to take away that right.
4. They both will spend trillions putting us more into debt - Disagree. Most of the politicians in this race are full of it when it comes to decreasing our debt. The only candidates that I would support for decreasing our debt is Donald Trump and John Kasich. Kasich has been known for his ability to decrease debt, which is why I like him for that reason only, but he lacks in every other department. Trump is a businessman. He will make deals and they will be great deals. We have such a bad trade deficit with other countries, and I believe that Trump will fix that. Look at the US Census Data, we are losing in trade against so many countries it is embarrassing.
Bernie Sanders only wants to add to the debt. He is offering free healthcare and free college. Who is going to pay for that? Increase taxes? Last time I checked nobody wants their taxes increased. Bernie is a spender.
Our country spends $4.1 billion per year to educate and care for illegal immigrants. We are wasting so much money in the United States it's crazy. I suggest you to look up the TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership). An awful deal that will not help the national debt one bit.
5. They both support big government - Agreed
6. They don't care about us - True and False - If you ask me if Hillary Clinton cares about the citizens, I would say no. I think Bernie Sanders cares about citizens. He wants to give us free healthcare and college - Who doesn't want free stuff? However, it would not be productive for our country moving forward for having that. College isn't a right, it's a privilege. Look up reasons why it shouldn't be free on google. I, once again, think Trump cares about Americans. He is not bought by anyone. He doesn't need to run for President. He has such a comfortable life and successful business that he simply doesn't need to do all of this. He genuinely wants to help this country and make it better.
Hillary cannot be trusted as the President. She is a national security risk and she has been a part of the government for a long time and nothing has gotten better. What makes you think she can improve our country if she has been at it for so long? Bernie Sanders will not get the nomination. Ted Cruz/John Kasich have no strength or leadership and cannot beat Hillary in a general election. Trump is the only candidate who has a chance of beating Hillary in a general election, and honestly, Hillary in the White House would not be good for our country.
Trump doesn't need to be bought, because he is the buyer. He is a lobby/special interest. (1%)
3) He doesn't defend freedom, only the second amendment. He wants to repeal the 14th amendment. Deporting all Muslims doesn't sound like defending freedom either.
4) Trump will not lower our debt. Just because he is a businessman (with four bankruptcies) doesn't mean he will bring us out of it. Trump is also a spender. He will spend billions in the Middle East, and even more to "defend" us against China, Iran, and North Korea. And who knows how much he'll spend to deport all those Muslims.
6) Trump does not care about you or America, only power and himself. If he really did care about us and wanted to make us great again, he would start by closing his factories in China and Mexico and open them here to create jobs. But he doesn't. Know why? More profit off shores. That's what matters to him.
Doesn't sound like you tried to explain why I'm wrong or what I said is false. Sounds more like you tried to promote Trump. Bit bias much?
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3. Trump does not want to deport all Muslims? Where are you getting this fabricated information from? He wants to temporary ban Muslims from entering the United States - which in some peoples eyes, is very necessary. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with him on that specific point, but you see what is happening around the world. It wouldn't be a bad idea to say "Look - we have a problem. Let's take a step back and analyze the situation." There has also been instances in the past where the United States has banned immigrants from entering the country. Trump wouldn't be the only one who has passed anti-immigration laws before.
4. It's funny that you mentioned the four bankruptcies, but left out the hundreds of successful companies and buildings that he owns/has built. He used the law to his advantage when he filed for bankruptcy four times. He filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy every time, which ultimately is a smart business decision. Chapter 11 bankruptcy is designed to restructure businesses without shutting them down completely. The purpose is to "save" the business, as opposed to other forms of bankruptcy which would liquidate the company. Yes, even if you have to file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy, it isn't a positive thing, but three of the four buildings were Casino's, which have been on a steady decline. While Trump is at fault, in reality, much of it was out of his control (struggling Casino industry.)
He is a negotiator. He knows how to make the best deals and will for this country. We have such a trade deficit with other countries that it is embarrassing. Mexico, Japan, China are all countries that are killing us on trade. None of the other candidates have a clue about negotiating deals and actually wanting to help the United States in the aspect of trade. Obama and his administration passed the TPP (which will ultimately hurt our economy even more. Such a disaster).
You're whole statement was so hard to read because you just don't have a clue.
6. He has a $8 billion net worth. He could continue to build buildings and make more money, as well as not having to worry about a thing in this world. However, he decides to run for President. He doesn't have to do this. Our country is a mess right now and he genuinely wants to help. Our country gets offended by everything that isn't political correct, and quite frankly, it is embarrassing.
But look, we could just elect Hillary, who let innocent people die in Benghazi and is most likely going to get indicted for her embarrassing classified private email scandal. But, what do I know.
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