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One of the most irrational statements i have ever heard.

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Yin wrote
Jeez wrote
Yin wrote
Jeez wrote How about this, ill give you 100 M&Ms, now 5 of which are poisoned and WILL kill you. Do you still eat them? Do you go until you start feeling sick? Or do you say "no thanks, ill pass".

THAT is the moral of the story he is pointing at. As much as I agree to a tiny fraction of Muslims being any threat, continuing to allow them into the country is, and will, become an issue. So, for the time being, why not look out for our OWN country, our OWN citizens, our OWN economy, and our OWN well being and safety unless things can be more controlled.

Is it really worth risking another (possible) 9/11? Not only did that kill thousands, it costed the country trillions. I know I am going to get hate for this, but; Mr. Trump, I mostly agree with you

Terrible analogy. Any type of food can be poisoned, but we still eat them. Hell, we poison ourselves with a lot of stuff we shouldn't consume (like soda.) We take risks everyday with food that could be contaminated. We risk another 9/11 everyday as well just for having so many citizens. There are a lot of bad people among us as it is. Dehumanizing these people by comparing them to food isn't really cool either.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

These are our people. Everyone that wants to be free and a part of this nation is our people. This is America.


Not true at all. We know we are being killed by those things, all the time. Its not a surprise. I get that this a free country, but the more we bring in that aren't originally from here, the more we are putting ourselves at risk. In this day and age, you can never be too careful. There are far too many domestic and international threats that harm this country every single day. Inviting those (possible) threats in with wide open arms is asking for trouble and is a magnet for attacks. Look at Paris, thought they were doing the right thing, all of the sudden they got blind sided by their new "friends thats just needed some help" for no apparent reason. Lock those boarders, seal us in, seal everything our and let stuff work out. Then things can continue

Ok. Then let's just close all borders and let the NSA spy on all of us and the world. I mean, we can't be too careful, right? I'm not going to cower to terrorists and then put that fear on other people. You know what France did after that attack? They said they would take more refugees. That is how you handle terrorist attacks. You do what they don't want you to do. Being kind to Muslims hurts their cause, and I like that fact.


Do what they want??? They're trying to spread Islam to the rest of the world and do damage to spread that message. How is closing our boarders "doing what they want"? Go ahead and let the NSA spy on me/us, I don't care. They are anyways, not like I have anything to hide. I would rather get spied on and be 100% safe, than have attacks and have thousands die.

This is just like middle school. If the bully hits you, do you get up, grab a stick and keep poking him and provoking him? No. You were supposed to get up, walk away and ignore him. Not everyone is a bully, but until you find out who is, you lock them out of the room so you don't effect the rest of the classroom. You keep them in the office.


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Xioko wrote
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Xioko wrote Luckily, I don't think he will ever be able to win (he may get the nomination, but that guarantees a democratic election)


Guarantees? No. And that's not exactly a good thing. I'm not going to argue my personal views, and I don't want to make this a left vs. right debate. Hilary is super corrupt, and Sanders is pretty old and could go senile in office, not to mention he hasn't exactly been 100% clear on how he's going to afford everything he wants to do. I understand he has hinted at bits and pieces, but, to my knowledge, he hasn't given a drawn out plan that accounts for everything.


But, sanders has a far better idea of how to help the common people (especially his free college plan, since I am about to go), and he wants to break big banks, (keyword, wants), and as such, I believe he is the best candidate


Honestly, Sanders sounds like a communist imo
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SteenXI wrote
Xioko wrote
CODLTHAT1OR3O wrote
Xioko wrote Luckily, I don't think he will ever be able to win (he may get the nomination, but that guarantees a democratic election)


Guarantees? No. And that's not exactly a good thing. I'm not going to argue my personal views, and I don't want to make this a left vs. right debate. Hilary is super corrupt, and Sanders is pretty old and could go senile in office, not to mention he hasn't exactly been 100% clear on how he's going to afford everything he wants to do. I understand he has hinted at bits and pieces, but, to my knowledge, he hasn't given a drawn out plan that accounts for everything.


But, sanders has a far better idea of how to help the common people (especially his free college plan, since I am about to go), and he wants to break big banks, (keyword, wants), and as such, I believe he is the best candidate


Honestly, Sanders sounds like a communist imo


Oh I agree, I just didn't want to start shit.
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Just horrible, if this man actually wins presidency in the United States its over for us here
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Jeez wrote
Yin wrote
Jeez wrote
Yin wrote
Jeez wrote How about this, ill give you 100 M&Ms, now 5 of which are poisoned and WILL kill you. Do you still eat them? Do you go until you start feeling sick? Or do you say "no thanks, ill pass".

THAT is the moral of the story he is pointing at. As much as I agree to a tiny fraction of Muslims being any threat, continuing to allow them into the country is, and will, become an issue. So, for the time being, why not look out for our OWN country, our OWN citizens, our OWN economy, and our OWN well being and safety unless things can be more controlled.

Is it really worth risking another (possible) 9/11? Not only did that kill thousands, it costed the country trillions. I know I am going to get hate for this, but; Mr. Trump, I mostly agree with you

Terrible analogy. Any type of food can be poisoned, but we still eat them. Hell, we poison ourselves with a lot of stuff we shouldn't consume (like soda.) We take risks everyday with food that could be contaminated. We risk another 9/11 everyday as well just for having so many citizens. There are a lot of bad people among us as it is. Dehumanizing these people by comparing them to food isn't really cool either.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

These are our people. Everyone that wants to be free and a part of this nation is our people. This is America.


Not true at all. We know we are being killed by those things, all the time. Its not a surprise. I get that this a free country, but the more we bring in that aren't originally from here, the more we are putting ourselves at risk. In this day and age, you can never be too careful. There are far too many domestic and international threats that harm this country every single day. Inviting those (possible) threats in with wide open arms is asking for trouble and is a magnet for attacks. Look at Paris, thought they were doing the right thing, all of the sudden they got blind sided by their new "friends thats just needed some help" for no apparent reason. Lock those boarders, seal us in, seal everything our and let stuff work out. Then things can continue

Ok. Then let's just close all borders and let the NSA spy on all of us and the world. I mean, we can't be too careful, right? I'm not going to cower to terrorists and then put that fear on other people. You know what France did after that attack? They said they would take more refugees. That is how you handle terrorist attacks. You do what they don't want you to do. Being kind to Muslims hurts their cause, and I like that fact.


Do what they want??? They're trying to spread Islam to the rest of the world and do damage to spread that message. How is closing our boarders "doing what they want"? Go ahead and let the NSA spy on me/us, I don't care. They are anyways, not like I have anything to hide. I would rather get spied on and be 100% safe, than have attacks and have thousands die.

This is just like middle school. If the bully hits you, do you get up, grab a stick and keep poking him and provoking him? No. You were supposed to get up, walk away and ignore him. Not everyone is a bully, but until you find out who is, you lock them out of the room so you don't effect the rest of the classroom. You keep them in the office.

They aren't really trying to "spread Islam" in a sense. They want a religious war. They want the Muslims here to turn on us. They want the Muslims from all over the world to join them. They best way to do that is to get us to overreact and hate all Muslims (or at least seem like we do.) Shutting out the Muslim population is great for their recruitment. They want the war that is suppose to signal their end of days. Basically, Muslims vs. the world. We stop that by getting Muslims on our side, on the peaceful side.

If you really want to fix the bully problem, then you figure out why he is acting out. Then, you make sure the other kids don't go through the experiences that made the other kid become a bully. We don't just blame all of the kids of potentially being a bully.
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Hate this man with a passion he's such an idiot.

Bannin all Muslims but yet it is only a small minority that are threats, why doesn't he try banning guns? Yes it would be harder to do but it causes much more deaths.
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This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of .
Banning every single Muslim from entering the United States ?!?!?

I have friends who are Muslim and have other families that live
in Middle Eastern Areas .

Plus , I have some white friends who are Muslim . And
don't practice how Middle Easterns do .

If Donald Trumo Wins , what will happen to people sayin ,
" Let's Goto America to have Freedom "

That's why my family came here from Europe .
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CODLTHAT1OR3O wrote
Xioko wrote

But, sanders has a far better idea of how to help the common people (especially his free college plan, since I am about to go), and he wants to break big banks, (keyword, wants), and as such, I believe he is the best candidate


I really didn't want to do this, but I guess I'll get a little politically involved, and I'll try to keep it more factual than interjecting my opinions. The problem with all these social programs that Sanders is wanting to implement, is that they take away incentive to work as hard as you possibly can, causing not as many new technologies to be invented, thus causing an overall decline in innovation, and possibly economic growth. Right now I'm in High School, so my opinion on what I'm about to say could very much change. If I were to "benefit" from Sander's "free" college system, I would have much lower incentive to get into the work force, and thus help economic growth, as I wouldn't have debts to pay off. I can agree with a few of Sander's views, like the big bank thing you mentioned, but the reality of the matter is, that's not the most important issue right now, so, as much as I hate it, it can be, and possibly should be left alone for now.


I'm confused. Are you saying that all anyone ever works for is to pay off debt? You'd still have to work to eat and have a roof over your head. I'm getting out of college without any debt and I still am planning on working right away because I want to actually own a home and buy food and have electricity. I'm just kind of confused on how 0 debt makes you less likely to want to find work?
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Scizor wrote Probably the biggest con of America accepting the refugees into America, would be the cost. The refugees who are escaping to here are coming to a completely new world, in which many of them will be unable to provide for themselves. I mean it isn't their fault that a bunch of dicks with a religious agenda blew up their house, but it puts an expensive burden on the US to provide for them.

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$582 Million Yearly to relocate, train, and integrate newly immigrated Refugees into the US, that is a LOT of money. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be spending that much, because the money is doing a lot more good than spending $38 Million on an F-14. However, think of what we could have done with the money. How many/much schools, hospitals, infastructure, could have been improved?


Why couldn't the US take the money it spends on its military and use it for either improving infrastructure, or helping refugees?

The money is there, it's just being put in the wrong place.

Jeez wrote Not true at all. We know we are being killed by those things, all the time. Its not a surprise. I get that this a free country, but the more we bring in that aren't originally from here, the more we are putting ourselves at risk.


His point was the risk, not whether or not we know if they are killing us.
You know that terrorists kill people, just like you know that car crashes kill people.
You still take the risk of driving a car, but for some reason you won't take the risk of letting any Muslims into the country?

Jeez wrote In this day and age, you can never be too careful. There are far too many domestic and international threats that harm this country every single day. Inviting those (possible) threats in with wide open arms is asking for trouble and is a magnet for attacks.


Sacrificing the principle that your country is founded on for security is being too careful.
You are scared of the terrorists who have killed just 3,380 Americans since 2001, including the deaths on 9/11, but are willing to deny safety to the tens of thousands of refugees fleeing ISIS just in case a couple of terrorists slip in with them?

Have you actually looked at the vetting process America uses to decide whether or not they let a refugee in?
It takes, on average, 18 - 24 months for a refugee to gain admittance to the US.
They must go through multiple high level security checks done by top intelligence agencies, including the FBI, a medical and biometric screening process,
an interview with the Department of Homeland Security, and a 'Cultural Orientation' program which includes videos on housing, education, employment, and hygiene.
They are not stood on the coast waiting for rafts to wash up, handing them a leaflet and directing them to the nearest job center.

Jeez wrote Look at Paris, thought they were doing the right thing, all of the sudden they got blind sided by their new "friends thats just needed some help" for no apparent reason. Lock those boarders, seal us in, seal everything our and let stuff work out. Then things can continue.


France knew that some of the refugees they were letting in could be terrorists. They accepted that fact and did not cower in fear like you and Donald Trump want to do.
He talks about 'Making America Great Again'. What is great about hiding behind a wall, turning your back on the principles the US was founded on, and lumping all Muslims into the group of 'potential terrorists.'
This is cowardly, offensive and stupid behavior which should not be being espoused by a front runner in the presidential race for one of the most powerful countries on the planet.
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