My bad I meant to say WAW lol but did you like der riese from waw ? If youre on ps4/xb1 you could get the season pass and play that

-Negan wrote I personally find it no harder than Mob of the Dead or Origins, hell, even Moon. The map is easy and simple after you play it a couple of times. I don't care for SoE, as I find the other maps more appealing, but it's not a shitty map, nor a mistake. It's a very well put together map. If you don't play zombies very often, you won't like it. You've gotta sit down and play the map without worrying about the maps to enjoy it. Treyarch did a fantastic job.

I definitely understand the map and I think as a whole they did a great job. Just think they need to tone it down with the PaP process is all.

-Simplicity wrote

Click to View Content

NYXeX1 wrote

-Simplicity wrote I personally have played zombies since BO1 and think this map is great. I think the whole new PAP sequence is a great addition to the game since it actually adds a challenge to getting it

I've been playing since WaW and I'm not saying that PaP should be instantly available or anything,but when you play SoE enough you really get sick of the 15 minute pricess. Its cool at first and fun,but after a few times it gets old.

My bad I meant to say WAW lol but did you like der riese from waw ? If youre on ps4/xb1 you could get the season pass and play that

Yeah Der Riese is a classic. I have the season pass and I've been playing The Giant every time I crave zombies.Just alot more simpler and to the point than SoE is.

I honestly think if its a little too complex for average zombies players, at least they did add The Giant for players who want the simple classic zombies.

-Doritos wrote I honestly think if its a little too complex for average zombies players, at least they did add The Giant for players who want the simple classic zombies.

I'm a veteran of zombies and I still enjoy the more simple maps

I understand some peoples feelings towards SoE. But I mean once you play the map a couple times it's nothing too strenuous. I usually have pap open with the upgraded sword and wonder weapon around 20~ about 40 or so minutes into the game. (I time my games because I play high round zombies) So I don't think its too much just for pap, that only takes a little under 20 minutes for me on average to get open in a solo game.

NYXeX1 wrote Okay,so I've seen many people argue both sides of this,but,do you think that Treyarch made it overly difficult to pack-a-punch in SoE? In my opinion,I think they did. I find myself not wanting to play the map anymore because of how annoying it is just to get set up. Hoping they take a different approach with the DLC.

If your'e a decent zombies player than you should be able to get to pack a punch by round 4 or lower. I get to it on round 2 every time.

I don't even have the game, but from what I've heard, it does seem a little overly hard to Pack-A-Punch, but that may also be what inspired them to include Der Reise. Additionally, it could be to train people for much harder challenges in future DLC's, but that's just a very uninformed guess.