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I'm not worried about the mouse or keyboard at all that's why I had the cheap bundle and I prefere the Msi gtx 970 over the r9 390 because even tho the 390 gets a little better performance it's a lot more power hungry and runs hotter. But besides that I like the setup you made will I need the 850w supply or will 750w be ok and can you find a good red and black mother board that will work great and support another 970 I was thinking the Asus hero vii it looks nice.
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relubed wrote I'm not worried about the mouse or keyboard at all that's why I had the cheap bundle and I prefere the Msi gtx 970 over the r9 390 because even tho the 390 gets a little better performance it's a lot more power hungry and runs hotter. But besides that I like the setup you made will I need the 850w supply or will 750w be ok and can you find a good red and black mother board that will work great and support another 970 I was thinking the Asus hero vii it looks nice.

No, it isn't really. I mean, yes, the 970 is more efficient but it's not a huge issue, at all. The 390 won't actually run that much hotter. Under load, they do tend to run a little hotter but they're better cards that perform better at higher resolutions and perform better in multi-GPU configs. I have a 970, and honestly, I'd swap it for a 390 if I was upgrading to a higher end card. The VII Hero is a waste of money, don't buy it. I have one and can tell you, it's not worth the cost. VII Ranger would be a better choice and is usually cheaper, but it's still not a great choice. The EVGA Z97 FTW will be fine. The 850W will be needed for XFire 390's. I had my SLI 970s running on an EVGA 750G2, before I got rid of one of them. So, the 750G2 will be fine for SLI 970s, but you're much better off with the extra 100W and an R9 390 IMO. DX12 support is much better on the 390 as well, so the 390 is only going to get even better compared to the 970. 970 is still a great card, but at this point, and at the price the 390 is, it just makes more sense IMO.
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Alright thanks do you know if the Msi 390 is a good choice? I love the red and black look to Msi cards and is getting a 390x worth it or should I just stick with the 390? and do you think the evga ftw is better then the Msi gaming 5 motherboard if not I'll stick with the ftw but it will work with everything Including a second 390? And I'm fine to overclock with it? Do you think I should just get the 4790k to keep up with the two 390s? Sorry for all the questions I'm new at this its my first build also is the cooler I have better then a liquid cooler like the h100i?
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MSI 390 will be fine. 390x isn't worth the premium over a 390 IMO, the same as a 980 isn't really worth the premium over a 970. The Dark Rock Pro 3? Yeah, I'd take that over an H100i any day of the week. As for EVGA Z97 FTW vs MSI Gaming 5, up to you, either is fine. The EVGA board is a little better and cheaper, and would be my choice but if you prefer the MSI board, it will still be a fine choice. No, 4690k is fine. 4790k will be a waste IMO. Unless you're going to utilise the extra threads with the 4790k, there's no point. In gaming, you won't utilise the extra threads, stick with the 4690k and you'll be fine.
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Thanks and will my original case work with everything? the red an black nzxt I love the look of it and the fact the power supply and wires are hidden in the bottom and I stuck with the 16gb of corsair pro because there red and black and I wanted 16gb anyway. But will I be able to max out games at 1080p and at least run games on high settings at 1440p while maintaining at least 60 fps? because that's what I hope for. I'm just worried about trying to build this pc it's my first time and I don't want to mess anything up do you think it will be a challenge putting everything together because I can make this exact same build on cyber power for only like 300 more but it comes with a lot of extras like windows 8.1 and led's and the maximum amount o fans my case supports and professional wiring and more so it kinda evens the price out a little and the build it for me and it comes with a 3 year warranty Incase anything breaks what do you think I should do?
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H440 will be fine. 16GB RAM is a waste. Trust me, I have the same RAM. 8GB is more than enough. I'd swap my Vengeance Pro for Vengeance LP any day. The Vengeance LP are nicer, and smaller. Vengeance Pro are bulky, and ugly(well, uglier than you'd expect but not really ugly) in person IMHO. 390 will easily max 1080p and get great settings and FPS on 1440p.
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You'll be playing at high-ultra settings with 40+FPS at 1440p. Some more demanding games will need to be set to high for 60+FPS, but you will be able to get 60+FPS at good settings, so yeah, you'll be fine. Again, you can always add a 2nd GPU at any point.

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Alright thanks so is it easy to install another gpu do I just put it in the same way and I get double the performance or do I have to do something special like downloading something to make it work? Besides that is it better to just have 2 390s then a 980ti performance wise? And how do I get the os for free and Is it safe? Is it easy to build a pc I'm just worried about the wiring it seems rally confusing. And will the 2 extra fans be enough for this build I think the case comes with 4. Also how do I overclock and what fps will I get when overclocking? Here's the build does it look good?

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 113.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($74.90 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: EVGA Z97 FTW ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.95 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card ($329.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
Wireless Network Adapter: TRENDnet TEW-805UB 802.11a/b/g/n/ac USB 3.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($19.99 @ Micro Center)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 37.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($27.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer G257HU smidpx 60Hz 25.0" Monitor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse ($28.99 @ NCIX US)
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Yes, adding a 2nd GPU is easy. You just install it and enable XFire in CCC. It's better to have a single more powerful GPU than two lower end GPUs. However, a 390 is still fairly high end and will cost around the same as a 980Ti for slightly greater performance so it's 6 or half a dozen really. If you want to pay the premium now for a 980Ti without sacrificing performance elsewhere, go ahead. Otherwise, a 390 is fine and adding a 2nd in the future will also be fine. No, it won't double performance. GPU scaling doesn't work like that in multi-GPU configs. 390's do scale very well in XFire though. Google/YouTube how to get your OS for free, or download Win10 beta(pretty sure it's still available?). You can buy a Win8.1 key from [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] if need be for about $30, so do that if you must. I've personally, never paid for an OS. Building a PC is very simple. You don't need the extra 2 fans. Yes, the H440 will come with 4 fans included. I'm not going to explain overclocking to you. If you don't know what you're doing, don't waste your money. It's not very difficult though. There are several great tutorials on YouTube for overclocking. LinusTechTips has 2, or maybe even 3 videos for overclocking Haswell/Haswell refresh CPUs.

Everything is fine apart from kb, mouse, and RAM. The RAM is uglier than the Vengeance LP I suggested, and larger. The RAM might even get in the way of the cooler. The keyboard and mouse are fine for their price, but they're budget options. The keyboard is membrane and the mouse is meh. You should really be getting a mechanical keyboard with your budget and for the mouse, I'd definitely suggest a Corsair Raptor M45.
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So with the build I shouldn't have to upgrade anything for a long time? And later down the road I can just get another 390 and my system will support it? The 850w is going to be enough power for everything? And I know the memory was ugly I was trying to find red memory to go with the whole red and black build I still might just go with the 16gb one because it's red and black and should look clean with everything else. Is the hard drive good? I could get Wd black 2tb but I won't if there's no point. And Isn't there 2 or 3 fan mounts on the top of the case that's why I was getting extra fans should those fans blow in or out? And is it hard to install the cpu cooler? Does it come with thermal paste or will I have to buy some or does my cpu come with any? Thanks for everything you have me with its making life a whole lot easier knowing all of this for when I build this computer.
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