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Should he be imprisoned?

Yes, his age shouldn't matter.
31.71% (13 votes)
No, he's too old. This is pointless.
68.29% (28 votes)

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#31. Posted:
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Serj wrote
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Miss wrote
Fold wrote Everyone should stop with the "he was just following orders" nonsense.. Al Qaeda suicide bombers were just "following orders." That is by far the most overused tactic that nazi soldiers hid behind during the Nuremburg trials (Hitler told me to, I can't think for myself) as if Hitler would have come to power in the first place if it weren't for the pre-existing antisemitism. And he is being accused of over 3,000 accessory to murder charges and people want him to just be able to live out his life free? Nope, he should face the music, age is irrelevant here.


AQ suicide bombers were definitely not following orders, nor are they. They are driven by an ideology and do so whenever they see fit or when they're ready.


And nazis were driven by antisemitism, and they are usually following orders, 9/11 wasn't simply "done when ready" it was carried out when the order was given. But the point stands, anyone can just claim they are following orders, but that doesn't make it right and doesn't admolish of punishment.


Would you prosecute a group of hostages in a bank robbery because they helped the robbers fill the bags with money?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think this issue is a lot more complicated than people are making it seem.


No, I wouldn't, but it isn't like that. They elected Hitler, never forget that the nazis were just another party like the democrats and republicans here and they were elected into power in 1933. Also, Germany sided with the antisemitic ideals that Hitler was spewing, and they knew about Mein Kampf (it was a best seller) and knew his views and yet they still supported him. This isn't a group of people who are being forced at gunpoint to do something at the drop of a hat, this is a group of people who sided with Hitler at least in the beginning, they elected him, they supported him, and even if they didn't agree with what happened in the end, they still must reap what they sow.
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Honestly i really dislike the "American System" its dumb and over powered.

He's 93 years old. like really?
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Fold wrote
Serj wrote
Fold wrote
Miss wrote
Fold wrote Everyone should stop with the "he was just following orders" nonsense.. Al Qaeda suicide bombers were just "following orders." That is by far the most overused tactic that nazi soldiers hid behind during the Nuremburg trials (Hitler told me to, I can't think for myself) as if Hitler would have come to power in the first place if it weren't for the pre-existing antisemitism. And he is being accused of over 3,000 accessory to murder charges and people want him to just be able to live out his life free? Nope, he should face the music, age is irrelevant here.


AQ suicide bombers were definitely not following orders, nor are they. They are driven by an ideology and do so whenever they see fit or when they're ready.


And nazis were driven by antisemitism, and they are usually following orders, 9/11 wasn't simply "done when ready" it was carried out when the order was given. But the point stands, anyone can just claim they are following orders, but that doesn't make it right and doesn't admolish of punishment.


Would you prosecute a group of hostages in a bank robbery because they helped the robbers fill the bags with money?

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just think this issue is a lot more complicated than people are making it seem.


No, I wouldn't, but it isn't like that. They elected Hitler, never forget that the nazis were just another party like the democrats and republicans here and they were elected into power in 1933. Also, Germany sided with the antisemitic ideals that Hitler was spewing, and they knew about Mein Kampf (it was a best seller) and knew his views and yet they still supported him. This isn't a group of people who are being forced at gunpoint to do something at the drop of a hat, this is a group of people who sided with Hitler at least in the beginning, they elected him, they supported him, and even if they didn't agree with what happened in the end, they still must reap what they sow.


Thank you! SS would kill people that didn't fight for Germany at the end of the war. SO this guy wasn't forced to do it.
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Yin wrote
Deliberation wrote
xMercii wrote
Deliberation wrote
xMercii wrote
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xMercii wrote So people on here think its ok for someone to let thousands of people get murdered and tortured to not pay the consequences? One man commits murder, he gets life, but this guy gets to walk in your opinion? HELL NO, this guy knew what he was doing, he loved it, he enjoyed it. No way you could stay and go through all that and not enjoy it, anyone that think he should walk is as bad as him in my book.
Wait, you think he chose to do these things?

Oh boy..

If you know ANYTHING, ANYTHING about Nazi Germany, then you should probably assume that him saying 'no' would result in a lot of prison time at least, if not death.

Give him a year or something. I don't see the need for him to be locked up for a decade. A year or two is good enough for me.


I'm done with this world, someone who helped kill millions of people, should only get a year or two really? They were my Gods people mostly, 6 million Jews died, and he helped kill them. No I don't care if he is 20 or 100, he should pay for what he did.


He is an old man, he did what he did years ago. Plus, doesn't your God believe in forgiveness?


Yeah God does, but does he regret what he does though? I don't know if he does or not but I think about it more, prison for a 94 year old won't do anything. I think he should have to watch 3 hours of what the Jews and the other people they murdered went through everyday for the rest of his life though.


You pretty much just said that he deserved more time in prison though... I think he knows what they went through considering he was there. I think it's too late to punish this guy, he is 94 for christs' sake.

This isn't just directly aimed at you but anyone who thinks he should be punished: Imagine your grandfather was 94 in a completely different situation, you love him very much. One day it comes out that almost 71 years ago your grandfather did some horrible things, should he be punished? Should he spend the rest of his days in prison, die in prison, die ALONE in prison for something that happened decades ago?

Obviously the situation is different but the principal is the same. This guy has a family much like your grandfather does too.

I'm still torn on it. I think it is very debatable on if he should be charged or not. Why should I place my grandfather in the situation though? Would that not make me think about the situation in a biased way? To answer that question though: If my grandfather was a part of all of that, I wouldn't totally argue with a life prison sentence if it was given to him. It would hurt, sure, but the charge would kind of make sense. I think the real debate here is: What should the statute of limitations be on accessory to murder?


Well the point of you imagining whether it was your grandfather is that surely this old man has grandchildren and a family. Yes you would feel biased but the point was for you to empathise with his family.

Yeah, that raises a valid point.
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A man 94 years old should be given the last years of his life to be peaceful; even though he helped and participated in some very cruel events. Again, stop wasting money for criminal trials on citizens who have a few years left to live anyways.
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