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US Navy Seals/Alamy Kidnaping
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The Article is here
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/06/libya-kidnapping-citizen-us-forces-raid-somalia


In Tripoli the US army's Delta force seized alleged al-Qaida leader Nazih Abdul-Hamed al-Ruqai, known by his alias Abu Anas al-Liby and wanted for the 1998 bombings of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania that killed more than 220 people.

The New York Times reported that Liby was being held in military custody and interrogated on board a navy ship, the USS Antonio, in the Mediterranean.

But US navy Seals suffered a major setback when they launched an amphibious assault to capture an Islamist militant leader said to be Ahmed Godane, described as Africa's most wanted man and the architect of last month's attack on the Westgate shopping mall in Kenya. The elite Seals were beaten back by heavy fire and apparently abandoned equipment that the Somali militants photographed and posted on the internet.

As dramatic details of Saturday's twin operations emerged, US secretary of state John Kerry insisted that terrorists "can run but they can't hide" , but faced growing questions about America's military reach in Africa and the consequences of unilateral aggression.

Libya demands explanation for 'kidnapping' of citizen by US forces

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thats crazy those africans have always had enough fire power to push us back
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Jibbers wrote thats crazy those africans have always had enough fire power to push us back

there was a lot more resistance than the expected they were way out numbered, They should always send more just in case
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TTGAmAzing1 wrote
Jibbers wrote thats crazy those africans have always had enough fire power to push us back

there was a lot more resistance than the expected they were way out numbered, They should always send more just in case


It appears the cause and decision for the withdrawl was simpler than that. When there are factors that affect the ROE; such as the presence of women, children or innocent third parties, then tough decisions have to be made. I have no doubt their chance will come again or there will be a air to ground missle in this guy's future.

One can only hope



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FoxNews wrote U.S. SEALs ended Somalia raid when they saw children, realized couldn't capture target
U.S. Navy SEALS from SEAL Team Six cut short their targeted operation against a top al-Shabaab commander in Somalia after a firefight at his seaside compound ended when they saw children and realized they could not capture their target.

As details began emerging about the Friday night raid to capture Abdikadir Mohamed Abdikadir, known as Ikrima, Pentagon press secretary George Little said in a statement Monday the military personnel conducted the operation with unparalleled precision.

Military sources told Fox News that military gear that was left behind, then photographed and tweeted out by al Shabaab, was typical of the gear used by SEALs and showed they left in a hurry.

Al Shabaab is the militant group in Somalia linked to last months Kenya mall attack that killed more than 60 people.

SEAL Team Six is the same unit that killed Usma bin Laden in his Pakistan hideout in 2011.

Meanwhile, a team of military, intelligence and Justice Department interrogators has been sent to the USS San Antonio in international waters to question terror suspect Abu Anas al-Libi, who was captured in Libya over the weekend in a separate raid, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.

The USS San Antonio is a Marine amphibious vessel that was sent during the Syrian crisis to the Eastern Mediterranean but is no longer there.

Al-Libi was indicted in 2000 for his involvement in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa.

The Obama administration has said it can hold high value detainees on a ship for as long as it needs to. During his confirmation hearing in June 2011 to be the head of U.S. Special Operations Command, Adm. William McRaven said the U.S. could keep a detainee on a ship for as long as it takes to determine whether the U.S. could prosecute the suspect in civilian court or if the U.S. could return the suspect to another country.

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Casca wrote
TTGAmAzing1 wrote
Jibbers wrote thats crazy those africans have always had enough fire power to push us back

there was a lot more resistance than the expected they were way out numbered, They should always send more just in case


It appears the cause and decision for the withdrawl was simpler than that. When there are factors that affect the ROE; such as the presence of women, children or innocent third parties, then tough decisions have to be made. I have no doubt their chance will come again or there will be a air to ground missle in this guy's future.

One can only hope



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FoxNews wrote U.S. SEALs ended Somalia raid when they saw children, realized couldn't capture target
U.S. Navy SEALS from SEAL Team Six cut short their targeted operation against a top al-Shabaab commander in Somalia after a firefight at his seaside compound ended when they saw children and realized they could not capture their target.

As details began emerging about the Friday night raid to capture Abdikadir Mohamed Abdikadir, known as Ikrima, Pentagon press secretary George Little said in a statement Monday the military personnel conducted the operation with unparalleled precision.

Military sources told Fox News that military gear that was left behind, then photographed and tweeted out by al Shabaab, was typical of the gear used by SEALs and showed they left in a hurry.

Al Shabaab is the militant group in Somalia linked to last months Kenya mall attack that killed more than 60 people.

SEAL Team Six is the same unit that killed Usma bin Laden in his Pakistan hideout in 2011.

Meanwhile, a team of military, intelligence and Justice Department interrogators has been sent to the USS San Antonio in international waters to question terror suspect Abu Anas al-Libi, who was captured in Libya over the weekend in a separate raid, two law enforcement officials told The Associated Press on Monday.

The USS San Antonio is a Marine amphibious vessel that was sent during the Syrian crisis to the Eastern Mediterranean but is no longer there.

Al-Libi was indicted in 2000 for his involvement in the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Africa.

The Obama administration has said it can hold high value detainees on a ship for as long as it needs to. During his confirmation hearing in June 2011 to be the head of U.S. Special Operations Command, Adm. William McRaven said the U.S. could keep a detainee on a ship for as long as it takes to determine whether the U.S. could prosecute the suspect in civilian court or if the U.S. could return the suspect to another country.



If he's surrounding himself with children wouldn't an air to ground missile be a bad idea?
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That's just crazy story there.
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Very interesting, but I can't believe it!
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