I'm glad there are people like you here in TTG, I can't stand people that nitpick every single shape in a music video or something and relate it to the illuminati, even worse when these idiots create youtube videos grouping together old news station talking about controversial topics about governments, NWO, health chips, etc, with overdramatic music

People see what they want to see !.

If a music video has a BMW (car) in it we don't all go .. ooooh they must be in the BMW group do we ..
The makers of these videos will use what ever they think will gain the video more attention ,They use cars /houses /planes and religious symbols all the time.

Now i don't mean to be rude but .,Anybody who thinks that because a musician has these things in a video that they starred in then they must also be a part of said life styles is just plain gullible !.

As for Secret society's being secret well ..,No it has never been the society that has been a secret it's only the members and the doctrine of the society that remain secret.
It's all down to personal choice ..,Either you choose to believe or you dont.
The same can be said for religion ,No solid proof of it being real and yet so many still believe.

Cappo wrote If there is an "Illuminati" then there is a possibility this is a cover up/distraction from the real "Illuminati" calledd the "RedFoxes" <example
who actually rule and created the illuminati as a distraction so they are less likely to get found out.

Either way the "illuminati" itself are not real.

to obvious to be real.

By stating that because we know of something to be real means it isn't real is a fallacy. Using that logic, I can prove that Obama does not exist because I have knowledge of his existence.

Phonage1234 wrote

Cappo wrote If there is an "Illuminati" then there is a possibility this is a cover up/distraction from the real "Illuminati" calledd the "RedFoxes" <example
who actually rule and created the illuminati as a distraction so they are less likely to get found out.

Either way the "illuminati" itself are not real.

to obvious to be real.

By stating that because we know of something to be real means it isn't real is a fallacy. Using that logic, I can prove that Obama does not exist because I have knowledge of his existence.

"By that logic ___ "

Is a null and void term
this isn't TBBT, and you aren't sheldon.

And especially when you use it to compare two complete different things.
Obama isn't a secret society and people have physically seen him - so your point is invalid...

The Illuminati was actually some bankers back in the day. They were a secret society back then. Seriously, why do so many people think of this as a group that kills of people if they talk about the Illuminati.

Michael Jackson: His doctor had to prescribe him sleeping meds because he couldn't sleep. Also, the dose he gave him was a very deadly amount. And what do you think he took those pills with? Probably alcohol? You are NEVER supposed to drink alcohol when you take some medication because the mixture between the elements inside the meds can differ with alcohol then with another type of liquid.

Scatters wrote Now I want proof why Santa Claus is real.

You can't disprove Santa so he must be real! XD I see people doing the "You can't disprove it" argruement with everything.