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Do you think Osama is dead? (Read the topic)

Yes
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No
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Not sure but seems convincing
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Not sure but seems not so convincing
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#201. Posted:
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morgsboi wrote
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I Watched This It's Quite Amazing.

Watch It All The Way Through

I saw that and "Secrets of Bin Laden's Lair" on Discovery. I actually noticed a few small details which could either be coincidentally legit or they could be flaws (if the operation was fake).
For example, in the year 2000, an unmanned predator drone spotted Bin Laden but it was apparently unarmed. It is understandable that whoever was looking through this drone wouldn't want to send in ground forces (even though they should)! But why say that sending ground forces in was too big a risk and the predator was unarmed when you could crash the predator into the target with complete precision and timing? Can anyone answer that one?
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:offtopic: 200th post in this topic!! :nyancat:


because thats what terrorists do (done) and we are not terrorists.
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CFC wrote
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I Watched This It's Quite Amazing.

Watch It All The Way Through

I saw that and "Secrets of Bin Laden's Lair" on Discovery. I actually noticed a few small details which could either be coincidentally legit or they could be flaws (if the operation was fake).
For example, in the year 2000, an unmanned predator drone spotted Bin Laden but it was apparently unarmed. It is understandable that whoever was looking through this drone wouldn't want to send in ground forces (even though they should)! But why say that sending ground forces in was too big a risk and the predator was unarmed when you could crash the predator into the target with complete precision and timing? Can anyone answer that one?
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:offtopic: 200th post in this topic!! :nyancat:


because thats what terrorists do (done) and we are not terrorists.

It was unmanned and no, it's common sense.
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Haha I love how you post pictures trying to support your argument.


You have probably failed to realize that the Government did not release those photos. They were photo shopped by someone who thought it would be cool.

That has been stated over and over again.

but you probably wont believe me because I assume you think everything about the government is a conspiracy and that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi are still alive underground.
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Dubaku_HD wrote Haha I love how you post pictures trying to support your argument.


You have probably failed to realize that the Government did not release those photos. They were photo shopped by someone who thought it would be cool.

That has been stated over and over again.

but you probably wont believe me because I assume you think everything about the government is a conspiracy and that Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi are still alive underground.

Wow, ignorant or what? I challenge you to quote where I said the picture was released by the government.
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i think hes still alive bro
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Qold wrote i think hes still alive bro

Honestly, I think he could be alive but it could just be that he is dead.
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Found this from this site. Credit: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

When Osama bin Laden was killed earlier this week, US officials said DNA testing and facial recognition software proved they had got their man.

However, the lack of actual documentation released to the public (so far), and the fact he was buried at sea so quickly, has predictably seen an explosion of conspiracy theories dreamt up by doubters, or deathers as theyve have now been dubbed. Here are just a few of them.


1. He must be still alive because theres no proof

The lack of photos, videos and other evidence, plus inconsistencies in accounts of the raid that killed him, apparently shows the US government made the whole thing up.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid is one doubter. He released a statement to journalists saying: This news is only coming from one side, from Obamas office, and America has not shown any evidence or proof to support this claim. Iranian State television also declared: "the mystery [of his death] has increased.

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in the Iraq war, also disputed the news on Facebook. She said: "I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid. Just think to yourself - they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead - why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent - just put your flags away and THINK!"

Naturally, several other Facebook pages made by skeptics have been set up, while searches for "osama bin laden not dead," "osama bin laden still alive" and "bin laden not dead" on Yahoo! spiked off the charts on Monday.

Our figures show most of the searchers of "bin laden conspiracy" were from the US states of Oregon, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Indiana and New Jersey.

2. Hes already dead

Ever since the September 11 attacks there have been numerous reports of bin Ladens death. Back in 2001 Fox News reported hed died of lung complications in Tora Bora. In 2005 Senator Harry Reid suggested bin Laden was killed in the Pakistan earthquake, while in 2007 Benazir Bhutto said the al-Qaeda boss was murdered by Pakistani militant Omar Sheikh.

Conspiracy theorists reckon official news of his death was kept from the public to continue justifying the war on terror, with the US government periodically releasing fake videos of the terror leader to keep the world convinced. The theory is that because the powers that be didnt need bin Laden as a terrorist boogieman anymore, they finally announced his death.

3. He was taken alive

Controversial Fox News talk show host Glenn Beck is famous for his conspiracy theories and gave a couple of suggestions about bin Ladens death on his radio show. Firstly, he speculated that Obama ghosted out the al-Qaeda leader - which means the Navy SEALs made it look like he was killed when actually he was taken alive, presumably to be interrogated.

4. He knew about a nuclear bomb

Becks other theory was that bin Laden was captured to stop him revealing the location of al-Qaedas nuclear bomb. This is reference to WikiLeaks documents that show US security officials briefed other countries on the possibility the terror group had a dirty bomb. Beck didnt explain why the US government would do this.

5. Hes been on ice for years

Another controversial US radio host Alex Jones said the US concocted the story to justify a security crackdown. He reckons bin Laden was killed back in 2002 and his body has been literally frozen to be rolled out at a later date.

6. He was given up by Pakistan

Website Maggies Farm quotes speculation (though they dont name sources) that, contrary to the reports the US acted alone, Pakistan actually knew all all about Osamas location and offered up the al-Qaeda leader as a sweetener to speed US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

7. He was killed as a pretext for war in Pakistan

David Icke doesnt agree though. No round-up of conspiracy theories would be complete without a contribution from Icke, who has written extensively about the event on his website. One of his theories is that the killing was fabricated to give the US a reason to actually invade Pakistan because they were harbouring the terror chief. War with China, he suggests, then Russia, will follow. Lets hope hes wrong.

8. He was killed to revive Obamas poll ratings

Barack Obamas presidency has been a difficult one. Universal healthcare, the budget deficit, high unemployment and fuel costs have resulted in low poll ratings and defeat for the Democrats at last years mid-terms, when the Republicans took the House of Representatives.

What better way then, some bloggers have argued, to get those poll ratings up than by suddenly killing Americas most wanted man? Writing on a Tea Party website, one conspiracy theorist said: "Don't you think Obama needs something to assure his re-election?"

9. He was killed to trump Trump

Theres no love lost between Donald Trump and Obama, with the property tycoon reviving the issue of the presidents birth certificate last week. Obama responded by first mocking Trump at the White House correspondents annual dinner. Then, when the time came for the bin Laden announcement, Celebrity Apprentice had to be interrupted on NBC. The host? Donald Trump.

10. His killing was delayed for the Royal Wedding

The close proximity of the Royal Wedding and the death of bin Laden inevitably means some conspiracy theorists have linked the two events.

Firstly, a security expert told The Daily Express that the reason Wills and Kate postponed their honeymoon - possibly to Jordan was because they had a tip-off on Friday about the upcoming events in Pakistan.

Theres also been speculation that the White House, who could have killed bin Laden on Friday, delayed pulling the trigger for two days in order for the two events not to clash.

11. His date of death is spooky

Osama bin Ladens death was announced exactly eight years after George W Bush made his now infamous Mission Accomplished announcement. Even spookier, it happened 66 years and 6 hours after the world learned about the death of Hitler. Thats 666.


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morgsboi wrote

Found this from this site. Credit: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

When Osama bin Laden was killed earlier this week, US officials said DNA testing and facial recognition software proved they had got their man.

However, the lack of actual documentation released to the public (so far), and the fact he was buried at sea so quickly, has predictably seen an explosion of conspiracy theories dreamt up by doubters, or deathers as theyve have now been dubbed. Here are just a few of them.


1. He must be still alive because theres no proof

The lack of photos, videos and other evidence, plus inconsistencies in accounts of the raid that killed him, apparently shows the US government made the whole thing up.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid is one doubter. He released a statement to journalists saying: This news is only coming from one side, from Obamas office, and America has not shown any evidence or proof to support this claim. Iranian State television also declared: "the mystery [of his death] has increased.

Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in the Iraq war, also disputed the news on Facebook. She said: "I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you're stupid. Just think to yourself - they paraded Saddam's dead sons around to prove they were dead - why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent - just put your flags away and THINK!"

Naturally, several other Facebook pages made by skeptics have been set up, while searches for "osama bin laden not dead," "osama bin laden still alive" and "bin laden not dead" on Yahoo! spiked off the charts on Monday.

Our figures show most of the searchers of "bin laden conspiracy" were from the US states of Oregon, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Indiana and New Jersey.

2. Hes already dead

Ever since the September 11 attacks there have been numerous reports of bin Ladens death. Back in 2001 Fox News reported hed died of lung complications in Tora Bora. In 2005 Senator Harry Reid suggested bin Laden was killed in the Pakistan earthquake, while in 2007 Benazir Bhutto said the al-Qaeda boss was murdered by Pakistani militant Omar Sheikh.

Conspiracy theorists reckon official news of his death was kept from the public to continue justifying the war on terror, with the US government periodically releasing fake videos of the terror leader to keep the world convinced. The theory is that because the powers that be didnt need bin Laden as a terrorist boogieman anymore, they finally announced his death.

3. He was taken alive

Controversial Fox News talk show host Glenn Beck is famous for his conspiracy theories and gave a couple of suggestions about bin Ladens death on his radio show. Firstly, he speculated that Obama ghosted out the al-Qaeda leader - which means the Navy SEALs made it look like he was killed when actually he was taken alive, presumably to be interrogated.

4. He knew about a nuclear bomb

Becks other theory was that bin Laden was captured to stop him revealing the location of al-Qaedas nuclear bomb. This is reference to WikiLeaks documents that show US security officials briefed other countries on the possibility the terror group had a dirty bomb. Beck didnt explain why the US government would do this.

5. Hes been on ice for years

Another controversial US radio host Alex Jones said the US concocted the story to justify a security crackdown. He reckons bin Laden was killed back in 2002 and his body has been literally frozen to be rolled out at a later date.

6. He was given up by Pakistan

Website Maggies Farm quotes speculation (though they dont name sources) that, contrary to the reports the US acted alone, Pakistan actually knew all all about Osamas location and offered up the al-Qaeda leader as a sweetener to speed US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

7. He was killed as a pretext for war in Pakistan

David Icke doesnt agree though. No round-up of conspiracy theories would be complete without a contribution from Icke, who has written extensively about the event on his website. One of his theories is that the killing was fabricated to give the US a reason to actually invade Pakistan because they were harbouring the terror chief. War with China, he suggests, then Russia, will follow. Lets hope hes wrong.

8. He was killed to revive Obamas poll ratings

Barack Obamas presidency has been a difficult one. Universal healthcare, the budget deficit, high unemployment and fuel costs have resulted in low poll ratings and defeat for the Democrats at last years mid-terms, when the Republicans took the House of Representatives.

What better way then, some bloggers have argued, to get those poll ratings up than by suddenly killing Americas most wanted man? Writing on a Tea Party website, one conspiracy theorist said: "Don't you think Obama needs something to assure his re-election?"

9. He was killed to trump Trump

Theres no love lost between Donald Trump and Obama, with the property tycoon reviving the issue of the presidents birth certificate last week. Obama responded by first mocking Trump at the White House correspondents annual dinner. Then, when the time came for the bin Laden announcement, Celebrity Apprentice had to be interrupted on NBC. The host? Donald Trump.

10. His killing was delayed for the Royal Wedding

The close proximity of the Royal Wedding and the death of bin Laden inevitably means some conspiracy theorists have linked the two events.

Firstly, a security expert told The Daily Express that the reason Wills and Kate postponed their honeymoon - possibly to Jordan was because they had a tip-off on Friday about the upcoming events in Pakistan.

Theres also been speculation that the White House, who could have killed bin Laden on Friday, delayed pulling the trigger for two days in order for the two events not to clash.

11. His date of death is spooky

Osama bin Ladens death was announced exactly eight years after George W Bush made his now infamous Mission Accomplished announcement. Even spookier, it happened 66 years and 6 hours after the world learned about the death of Hitler. Thats 666.


I've been looking around the web more and I've found that there are loads of sites with this same conspiracy now. [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]
Had anyone heard of this conspiracy before I released it on TTG? By the way, not when you read it, when I posted it. I'm not sure but I think I may have started the chain!
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TheHudson wrote I think he is still alive hiding somewhere and the person who was killed was a decoy so that he can plot an even bigger attack to kill many more people. Maybe? The olympics? Who knows?


^^ fail, the olympics has already started & finished looool
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morgsboi wrote Hi, you may have seen my previous topic on the conspiracy of 9/11. Here

Please, don't "flick through" when reading this. It's good to read carefully and take in all the information given. And I would love it if you comment. It's great to see everyone's view on the topic.

Firstly, I do not mean to offend anyone. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and this is mine.
I've been thinking about when the death of Osama Bin Laden was announced. The 9/11 cover up had a lot of holes, big holes, and the US government know this. Could they have planned out a better story for Osama's death? Why was so much hidden and unannounced? Here are the main points that I've come up with:

    1. It was said they did a DNA test but where were the results on this?
    2. They buried his body at sea? Oh yeah, like that's going to happen. Think about it. If you had been looking for since 1988, would you just dump the body at sea or hand it over to some real experts? I've been having a lot of comments about his body being dumped in the sea to prevent any revenge attack. Couldn't they have just said they did it....
    3. Was the date a coincidence? His date of death is 2nd May, 2011 but that is because of the time difference. In the US, it was actually the 1st of May. The 1st of May is international workers day. On top of that, it was EXACTLY 8 years since the invasion of Iraq! [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] Are you starting to think yet? You should be.
    4. Where was he found? No, not a cave but a military compound! Did nobody stop to think, oh, maybe he isn't in a cave but he's protected 24/7 by armed guards!
    [ Register or Signin to view external links. ] is a city with high military establishments.
    5. Why were details not released on his death? It is said that he used his wife as a human shield but is that true? How do we know that he didn't try to surrender? You would have thought that a full on navy seals operation would have recorded the whole thing for reference.
    6. Why is there not any legit pictures of his corpse? Now you may have seen a picture of it but ask yourself, is it real?
    The image below may be disturbing to some people. By clicking "Show Content", you are agreeing to view this image in the knowledge that you may find it disturbing.

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    Can you see how that is faked?



So, where is all the evidence? There is absolutely none except for people's word. If you watched the 9/11 video which I posted, you will know how the US government's word counts for :idea: !!! Please leave any comments you have on here.
If you have anything to say against it, please give valid opinions.

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Also, thanks everyone for all the thanks and replies! It let's me know if you appreciated the topic and to see what your opinion is. I really appreciate it. Oh, and I updated the appearance of the topic. Tell me what you think!
We all know are government is **** up nothing new I don't believe half the sh it they say only for the fact their stupid
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