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Hey! I Could use some help and/or suggestions if anyone is up for it. Never built a PC, but I feel like I am good with things like this. Here's the rundown.

1. Budget
USA $2700-$3700(Maybe a little more if necessary for performance)

2. Vision
I intend on building a PC to run my audio engineering sessions. Processing audio in a DAW gets very very CPU intensive. I never can find solid information on what practically makes it run more smoothly. If it helps, I am using Ableton Live and Bitwig. The CPU spikes come with third-party plugins like reverb for example. The spikes increase the more plugins used at a time or if a certain plug in pulls a lot of power. I don't know if the amount of cores matters or not, but I think it'd be wise of me to go with a new 8th gen i7. I also do some video editing (Adobe Premier/After Effects and Resolume). I know its overkill but I'm thinking 64gb of fast ram.
4x amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0171GQHZC/ref...&psc=1
Or
4x amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071WNBCQB/ref...PDKIKX0DER

I can't have something super loud, minimal noise. Preferably 4k capable. This article is pretty good but don't know how accurate it is support.image-line.com/knowledgeb...hp?ans=214

I definitely want some USB type C ports. Motherboard wise I was looking at Asus ROG Strix z370-e OR Aorus Gaming 7 z370. At least 1TB SSD (2tb is better) and space for more than one hdd, I'm thinking at least 6 tb total. I'm trying to build a crazy machine that I can handle a million plugins at a time, something that is future proof for the next few years.

3. Monitors
Running one monitor for now, possibly more in the future. Open to monitor suggestions. I want something BIG and easy to look at so I don't have to move close to read things. I was thinking this amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01IRQAYPE/ref...&psc=1

4. Other things
I am open to any keyboard, mice, and monitor suggestions. Most likely installing Windows, but open to other operating systems.
Maybe this keyboard amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N11UUVP/ref...&psc=1

If anyone has advice on power supply, cases, options for cpu cooling, and/or graphic cards; I am not well versed in any of those. I was looking at this graphics card amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GXOWUDQ/ref...&psc=1

I am still running on a 4th gen i7(lenovo y70 touch), and it has not been cutting it. I've been saving up and finally the time has come.

All help is much much appreciated, thank you in advance :]
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($59.90 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($555.00)
Memory: Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($134.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($169.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($66.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($744.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Acer - UM.CC0AA.001 34.0" 3440x1440 75Hz Monitor ($547.98 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2657.47

Motherboard price is for CPU+Mobo combo from Newegg. However, the 8700k is not available right now. It's sold out everywhere and even all of the CPU/Mobo combos are sold out so you'll need to wait until the combos, or even just the 8700k is back in stock. Apparently stock is a little iffy right now but UK e-tailers have said November at the latest for more Coffee Lake stock, so I imagine Newegg should have more 8700k's within the month.

You absolutely do NOT need 64GB RAM. Even 32GB is MORE than enough for you, so I'd stick with 16GB for now and if you feel you need/want more, add another 2x8GB. I included peripherals because you said you were "open" to suggestions for them, but I have no idea if that means you need peripherals, or already have some you can use? I included a GTX 1080Ti because of your budget. I'm assuming you'll use the system for some sort of gaming. If not, drop the 1080Ti and just get something like a 1050Ti maybe. Also, if you do get a cheaper GPU, you can easily save a good chunk of money on PSU since the 850W PSU is only in there for 2 way SLI support with the 1080Ti.
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Both GPU are liquid cooled to minimize on on sound, the case comes with x2 140mm fans. You can use both as intakes throught the front. Use the area on the case that exhausts as the mounting point for the gpu rad/fan, i would exhaust it out the case. For the cpu cooler it is a 360mm rad and would be mounted at the top of the case. I would recommend having it pull in air from outside the case. Included 32 GB of memory, should be way more then enough for whatever you decide to do. The CPU is amds 1950x, should destroy any workstation application you throw at it, also the gpu is one of the best. And both cpu and gpu should be able to stay cool even with good overclocks. Included a 1.1TB SSD from Crucial, the m.2 shield will hide the ugly blue color, also included 3TB HDD for mass storage. PSU should be perfect for some good OCs and the case is bae af so yeah. I have the monitor and have never had any issues, i own a little but different variant of the keyboard and i love it and i have the mouse and it is one of my favorites!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor ($999.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI - X399 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX TR4 Motherboard ($333.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($329.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($270.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.89 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 HYBRID GAMING Video Card ($849.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($333.94 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: G.Skill - Ripjaws KM570 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Mouse: G.Skill - RIPJAWS MX780 Wired Laser Mouse ($39.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $3703.28
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Z06 wroteCPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor ($999.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($333.94 @ Amazon)


CPU is ridiculously overkill, and an 8700k is going to better for music production than the 1950x anyway. Threadripper is just a huge waste of money in this instance. As for the monitor, he'd really be better off getting an ultrawide IMO, or if he did go for a 16:9 monitor, he should get 2 x 4k panels(which he could afford with an 8700K rig). Music production is a lot easier when you have the extra space that comes with a second monitor, or an ultrawide.
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Both are solid builds, took a little from both, What do you think of this one? pcpartpicker.com/user/repsak/saved/9hC6XL

Also side note, I am going to be installing one of these
uaudio.com/uad-accelerators/uad-2-pcie.html
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So if youre wanting the 8700k this is what i would do instead of the on you did above

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($399.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Fractal Design - Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.69 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3333 Memory ($387.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 1.1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($270.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($73.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB FTW3 HYBRID GAMING Video Card ($849.99 @ B&H)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 1000W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.99 @ B&H)
Case Fan: NZXT - Aer P140 98.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: NZXT - Aer P140 98.2 CFM 140mm Fan ($17.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($347.00 @ Amazon)
Monitor: LG - 27UD58-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor ($347.00 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: G.Skill - RIPJAWS KM780 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($139.89 @ OutletPC)
Mouse: G.Skill - RIPJAWS MX780 Wired Laser Mouse ($39.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $3556.03
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First, do not get the Celsius S36. The Dark Rock 3 I suggested will be quieter. If you're determined to get an AIO, get a 280mm AIO. Kraken X62 is a popular option(and a great one), but it's pretty expensive at $150. So, for a nice 280mm AIO around the same price as the S36, you can get the Kraken X61, which although it's the older brother of the X62, is still a great cooler. Alternatively, you'll see Corsair H110i's go on sale for $100, for that price they're a steal, but for $120, you're better off just getting an X61. I'd still recommend the Dark Rock 3 over any of these, only reason to go with the AIO is for aesthetics.

Next, on to RAM.
Z06 wroteMemory: Corsair - Dominator Platinum 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-3333 Memory ($387.99 @ Amazon)

This is just a huge waste of money for literally no reason.
As I said, 32GB RAM is unnecessary. However, if you were to go with 32GB, you can easily get a 32GB kit for less than $300.

For HDD's, do NOT buy a WD Black. Don't buy 2 x 3TB Barracuda's either. You can get a 5TB HDD for $140, or 6TB for $160-170. Again, seriously consider this before wasting money. 2TB is more than enough for the vast majority of people, so wasting money on a large HDD is just utterly pointless. Especially considering you can grab a 2TB HDD, or even 3TB if you really want right now for a decent price, and then in the future, if you really need more storage, you can easily add more.
Also, with a $2700-3700 budget, I wouldn't get the MX300. I'd just spend the premium for the 850 EVO. The MX300 is great, but it still comes 2nd to the 850 EVO. I also wouldn't get the 2TB 850 EVO though, grab a 500GB 850 EVO or a 1TB 850 EVO.

Case wise, Enthoo Pro M and Meshify C are both good. I'd take the Meshify C over the Enthoo Pro M just because it's a little nicer IMO, and a little bit better build quality, but not really noticeably better so the Enthoo Pro M is perfectly adequate if that's your preference.

Absolutely zero reason to buy a 1000W PSU, it's stupid and a huge waste of money. 8700k and GTX 1080Ti overclocked as far as you can get them won't even pull 400W.

For monitor, I'd really recommend getting the ultrawide. However, if you're set on a pair of 16:9's for whatever reason, do not get a 4k monitor and then a completely different 1080p monitor from a different company. I'd suggest getting 2 of the same 1440p or 4k monitors, you have the budget for it. Otherwise, at least get an LG 4K and LG 1080p monitor. Also, avoid 1080p at 27", it looks shit. Anything larger than 24" at 1080p is a no go.

The Corsair K70 is a better quality keyboard than the KM780. It's also cheaper. There is no reason to buy the KM780. That Razer mouse is overpriced for what it is. I wouldn't bother. Razer mice aren't actually bad, at least for the most part, but they are all overpriced.



So, here you go;
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($399.89 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($154.79 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 7 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($253.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($289.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($327.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba - X300 5TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($141.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card ($744.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Keyboard: Corsair - K70 LUX RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair - M65 PRO RGB FPS Wired Optical Mouse ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2690.55

and again, SERIOUSLY consider the 5/6TB HDD, it's likely unnecessary. Also seriously consider the 32GB RAM, it's definitely unnecessary. I've included the X62 here, because it's the most expensive cooler you should consider, but again, X61 if you want a cheaper AIO, or Dark Rock 3 for better acoustics. I've also included the Meshify C, because it's what I'd get but again, swap for the Enthoo Pro M if you want.

I have not included monitors here, so you'll need to use your $1000 remaining budget for those. Like I said, I'd recommend the ultrawide I already linked above, here it is again;
Acer ultrawide
Otherwise, get 2 of these 4k monitors;
LG 27UD58
or 2 of these 1440p monitors;
QNIX QX2710


*Edit* I've just realised I've completely missed case fans in this entire thread, get Be Quiet! Pure Wings 2's, or SilentWings 3's.
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Thank you so much man. That all is extremely helpful and informative. I think I'm going to go with the build you got except one thing, I'm going off the deep end and getting 64gb ram

pcpartpicker.com/product/jXkwrH/c...m4c3200c16

And only one LG 27UD58 for now.
I think I have one more question before I get all the parts. Would you know if the Kraken x62 going to block any of my ram ports? It seems to be an ongoing issue for people. But this guy who built on a Aorus Gaming 7 Ga-z270x gives me a little faith
linustechtips.com/main/uploads/mo...f6b2a4.jpg

I'm not sure if the space between cpu and ram is the same in z370 and ga-z270x models. I think I might contact Gigabyte to see if it's the the same.
So with the 64gb ram and only one monitor it's looking like this
pcpartpicker.com/user/repsak/saved/kGv3FT
Again, thank you for all the help, I am learning a lot just talking about this stuff.
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What do you have that is going to use 64GB of Ram????
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Repsak wroteI'm going off the deep end and getting 64gb ram

pcpartpicker.com/product/jXkwrH/c...m4c3200c16

Yeah, don't do that, it's a huge waste of money. You're not going to need 64GB RAM. Like I said, even 32GB is overkill. Plus, with the 2x16GB kit I recommended, you still have the potential to add another 32GB kit alongside it in the future for 64GB total anyway.

9quote="Repsak"]I think I have one more question before I get all the parts. Would you know if the Kraken x62 going to block any of my ram ports? [/quote]
It might, depending on how you position it. It won't be an issue though.
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