Treyarch on Tweaks for Black Ops and “Next” Call of Duty

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Call of Duty: Black Ops Developer, David Vonderhaar, has been rather active on the official Black Ops forums lately searching for feedback on various gameplay and balance matters.

One question we are asking is if this feedback is to be used to improve Black Ops, or will it be factored into their next title, be it Black Ops 2 or something completely different. So far, we’ve already seen some major changes to Black Ops gameplay fairly late into it’s life, including weapon balancing, playlists, and perks like Last Stand. It would not be crazy to assume more changes are on their way, but meanwhile, we can begin to get a general idea of the direction Treyarch might be headed in with their next project. For now, you should check out the Unofficial Feedback Thread and Unofficial Knife Feedback Thread that Vonderhaar has set up to gather feedback.

Vonderhaar has stressed that he’s reading all comments on these threads, so it would be a great place to have your voice heard.

Many fans have been showing appreciation for Treyarch’s willingness to learn and implement new improvements/ideas into Black Ops. Vonderhaar mentions that “You have to challenge assumptions. I don’t want to change just because we could. Finding the right things is important.” Treyarch recently implemented the option to turn aim assist for consoles in the multiplayer and was asked if there were any plans to create playlists that enforce this feature. Vonderhaar states, “yes. It could be enforced at a playlist level. Not sure how popular it would be, but am thinking of a way to deal with that.” One of the more controversial ideas that Vonderhaar has been looking for feedback on is the ability to unlock weapons permanently through prestiging. “We have these ‘traditions’ of doing things a certain way. Prestige relocking gameplay content being one.” Perhaps it’s time to break these traditions in order for Call of Duty to really move forward. In response to one fan stating that all of these changes could have been tested earlier in a Beta, had they implemented one, Vonderhaar noted that “it would be ridiculously beneficial to be able to test out this stuff now in black ops so its perfect for the ‘next game.’”

It seems we live in a day and age when it’s more and more acceptable for games with a strong multiplayer community like Call of Duty to be tweaked and changed, days, months, or years after release. Do you agree with this dynamic way of updating games, or should they be “perfect” from the get-go. Also, what would you like to see in the “next” Call of Duty?

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Source: http://mp1st.com/2011/12/02/treyarch-on-tweaks-for-black-ops-and-next-call-of-duty/

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LaidPosted:

DeadlyDasher
-Konviict- I personally like Infinity Ward (and now Sledgehammer Games) better than Treyarch, but Black Ops introduced a lot of new material to the franchise, and MW3 got rid of a lot of this stuff. I like ranking up weapons more than having to buy upgrades for your gun, but wager matches, the playercard, colored clan tag, and customizing your emblem should've been brought back to MW3. And also, it took Black Ops 11 or 12 title updates to fix most of the glitches/hacks, and MW2 only took 7 title updates, meaning Black Ops had more glitches/hacks in it, or they couldn't patch as much glitches in their title updates like MW2 did. All in all, MW3 and Black Ops are about equal to me


Black Ops had more title updates because they tweaked some weapons that they felt were to strong. And I didn't see people hacking prestiges in Black Ops.

IW trys to appeal to everyone and make everyone happy.

Treyarch balances their game and they don't care if people don't like it. They took out quick scoping and people cried, they didn't cave in and put it back in. Not only did IW but quick scoping bacn in MW3, they also made it easier.

Treyarch > IW IMO


IW didn't put it back in cause they didn't take it out in the first place.
The feel of IW's games are better in my opinion.
I liked black ops for a while, until I started noticing the scrwed up things in it.

Everyone can argue all you want, but that wont change peoples opinions.

burntt0adPosted:

Throw Really, No One Is Going To But This. BlackOps Is Bad.
Yes they will everyon says "I'm not buying the next CoD". But they buy it anyway.

austion2716Posted:

TTG_Fruity I'll buy any cod game as long as it isnt along the lines of Black Ops. Worst game of the series..

VampiricPosted:

annefrankww2
-Konviict- I personally like Infinity Ward (and now Sledgehammer Games) better than Treyarch, but Black Ops introduced a lot of new material to the franchise, and MW3 got rid of a lot of this stuff. I like ranking up weapons more than having to buy upgrades for your gun, but wager matches, the playercard, colored clan tag, and customizing your emblem should've been brought back to MW3. And also, it took Black Ops 11 or 12 title updates to fix most of the glitches/hacks, and MW2 only took 7 title updates, meaning Black Ops had more glitches/hacks in it, or they couldn't patch as much glitches in their title updates like MW2 did. All in all, MW3 and Black Ops are about equal to me

ur funny blackops had more hacks than mw2 haha

It really didn't. Lmao. Wow.

jakd77Posted:

bulletxtoothx
epraider
bulletxtoothx no matter what kind of call of duty u make nxt am not buying ut anymore mw3 is just like a dlc for mw2
*No matter what kind of Call of Duty you make next, I am not buying Call of Duty games anymore, Modern Warfare 3 is just like a DLC for Modern Warfare 2*
Was it really that hard to type correctly?
havnt u got anythink better to do u fat gimp

Haven't you got anything better to do you fat gimp?
Maybe you should consider a tutor. I know it is the internet and all but you could at least use the correct words (anything not anythink) Derp.

TTG_FruityPosted:

I'll buy any cod game as long as it isnt along the lines of Black Ops. Worst game of the series..

bulletxtoothxPosted:

epraider
bulletxtoothx no matter what kind of call of duty u make nxt am not buying ut anymore mw3 is just like a dlc for mw2
*No matter what kind of Call of Duty you make next, I am not buying Call of Duty games anymore, Modern Warfare 3 is just like a DLC for Modern Warfare 2*
Was it really that hard to type correctly?
havnt u got anythink better to do u fat gimp

annefrankww2Posted:

-Konviict- I personally like Infinity Ward (and now Sledgehammer Games) better than Treyarch, but Black Ops introduced a lot of new material to the franchise, and MW3 got rid of a lot of this stuff. I like ranking up weapons more than having to buy upgrades for your gun, but wager matches, the playercard, colored clan tag, and customizing your emblem should've been brought back to MW3. And also, it took Black Ops 11 or 12 title updates to fix most of the glitches/hacks, and MW2 only took 7 title updates, meaning Black Ops had more glitches/hacks in it, or they couldn't patch as much glitches in their title updates like MW2 did. All in all, MW3 and Black Ops are about equal to me

ur funny blackops had more hacks than mw2 haha

aimiami12Posted:

eh. i might not buy this. Black ops was my least favorite cod and one of my least favorite games ive played. They did do a good job on zombies but thats the only thing i was a fan of.
ill end up getting it but probably not right away

DeadlyDasherPosted:

TheBlackCops
DeadlyDasher
-Konviict- I personally like Infinity Ward (and now Sledgehammer Games) better than Treyarch, but Black Ops introduced a lot of new material to the franchise, and MW3 got rid of a lot of this stuff. I like ranking up weapons more than having to buy upgrades for your gun, but wager matches, the playercard, colored clan tag, and customizing your emblem should've been brought back to MW3. And also, it took Black Ops 11 or 12 title updates to fix most of the glitches/hacks, and MW2 only took 7 title updates, meaning Black Ops had more glitches/hacks in it, or they couldn't patch as much glitches in their title updates like MW2 did. All in all, MW3 and Black Ops are about equal to me


Black Ops had more title updates because they tweaked some weapons that they felt were to strong. And I didn't see people hacking prestiges in Black Ops.

IW trys to appeal to everyone and make everyone happy.

Treyarch balances their game and they don't care if people don't like it. They took out quick scoping and people cried, they didn't cave in and put it back in. Not only did IW but quick scoping bacn in MW3, they also made it easier.

Treyarch > IW IMO

I'm pretty sure I had 15th prestige with a USB..
I like iW, but I really did not like black ops' game play.
It'll be interesting to see if they do anything with cod elite for zombies...


I'm pretty sure you didn't go online with that 15th prestige. Black Ops > MW2 MW3