ThriII wrote

MrWednesday wrote

Glock- wrote

LieutenantGaz wrote This burden should be placed on the men that send them to fight their wars, but instead we are left to take care of their baggage. Highest GDP, lackluster social nets. 'Murica.

This is NOT the place for a political discussion.

Simply put,

Take your shit somewhere else.

Of course this is the place for a political discussion, it's a political topic. You might not think it is because donating money to homeless veterans seems so obviously great to you, but it doesn't to all people. What makes homeless veterans more important than homeless people in general? And if you don't like the idea of people not respecting the military, then what about all of the homeless ex-police officers? All of the homeless ex-doctors?
What if by donating to these specific foundations other homeless people who don't happen to be veterans are missing out? You could at least include a couple of links to charities which don't discriminate between who they try to help.

Why ignore what LieutenantGaz said when he is absolutely right. You could include in your main topic a section about writing to your local representative and appealing to them to expand social safety nets for homeless veterans and homeless people in general.
Sure it's not the same as donating money but if it gets things done in the long term then it helps all the same.

But no, he should just take his shit elsewhere because you don't like what he has to say?

Vets gave up everything when they joined the service. Many have disabilities and no help from our government. The "other" homeless people I see are fine just dirty and begging everyday. Most got themselves into that position and don't want to get themselves out. Now we are talking about the ones that our government should be taking care of that served years and actually did something with their lives which put them in this place.

This is a genuine question so don't think I'm trying to catch you out, I think I can predict your answer but I'm not certain.

Imagine someone joins the military when they are 19, they get out after one tour.
They then go into work in an office building, customer services, stacking shelves in a shop, or some other mundane job.
This person is good at this job to start with and stays in that job for 10 years or so, but then their quality of work begins to decline, they have problems with co-workers, etc.
There is nothing wrong with them mentally or physically, they just can't really be bothered to work hard any more.
They get fired and are just too lazy to try to find a new job, so they end up homeless.

Does this person fit into the category of former military worthy of help over other homeless people, or just another bum?

90% got where they are because of alcohol or drugs.

Scenario 2, he's not lazy, he just became an alcoholic and that was the reason he got fired.

What about now?

ThriII wrote

BJP wrote

ThriII wrote

MrWednesday wrote

Glock- wrote

LieutenantGaz wrote This burden should be placed on the men that send them to fight their wars, but instead we are left to take care of their baggage. Highest GDP, lackluster social nets. 'Murica.

This is NOT the place for a political discussion.

Simply put,

Take your shit somewhere else.

Of course this is the place for a political discussion, it's a political topic. You might not think it is because donating money to homeless veterans seems so obviously great to you, but it doesn't to all people. What makes homeless veterans more important than homeless people in general? And if you don't like the idea of people not respecting the military, then what about all of the homeless ex-police officers? All of the homeless ex-doctors?
What if by donating to these specific foundations other homeless people who don't happen to be veterans are missing out? You could at least include a couple of links to charities which don't discriminate between who they try to help.

Why ignore what LieutenantGaz said when he is absolutely right. You could include in your main topic a section about writing to your local representative and appealing to them to expand social safety nets for homeless veterans and homeless people in general.
Sure it's not the same as donating money but if it gets things done in the long term then it helps all the same.

But no, he should just take his shit elsewhere because you don't like what he has to say?

Vets gave up everything when they joined the service. Many have disabilities and no help from our government. The "other" homeless people I see are fine just dirty and begging everyday. Most got themselves into that position and don't want to get themselves out. Now we are talking about the ones that our government should be taking care of that served years and actually did something with their lives which put them in this place.

- They gave up everything
They joined a job which gives you so many opportunities compared to any other career. You get food, housing, job security, pension and more.

-The "other" homeless people I see are fine just dirty and begging everyday
So from your 2 second glance you can confirm they are fine, aye thanks doctor. Epilepsy, CPS, CRMO, PTSD, DID just to list a few conditions which alone can be debilitating yet wont be see able from a quick glance walking past them.

- actually did something with their lives
Yet again you dont know whether the people you class as "Other" are former doctors, aid workers, firemen or biochemists.

BJP

90% got where they are because of alcohol or drugs. You're hilarious.

Do you have a source for that 90% or is it just another thing you've pulled out of your arse and decided to post.

Over 26.5% / 312,000 people who used food banks in the UK had to do so not because they where homeless due to drugs but because of low income jobs.

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BJP

BJP wrote

ThriII wrote

BJP wrote

ThriII wrote

MrWednesday wrote

Glock- wrote

LieutenantGaz wrote This burden should be placed on the men that send them to fight their wars, but instead we are left to take care of their baggage. Highest GDP, lackluster social nets. 'Murica.

This is NOT the place for a political discussion.

Simply put,

Take your shit somewhere else.

Of course this is the place for a political discussion, it's a political topic. You might not think it is because donating money to homeless veterans seems so obviously great to you, but it doesn't to all people. What makes homeless veterans more important than homeless people in general? And if you don't like the idea of people not respecting the military, then what about all of the homeless ex-police officers? All of the homeless ex-doctors?
What if by donating to these specific foundations other homeless people who don't happen to be veterans are missing out? You could at least include a couple of links to charities which don't discriminate between who they try to help.

Why ignore what LieutenantGaz said when he is absolutely right. You could include in your main topic a section about writing to your local representative and appealing to them to expand social safety nets for homeless veterans and homeless people in general.
Sure it's not the same as donating money but if it gets things done in the long term then it helps all the same.

But no, he should just take his shit elsewhere because you don't like what he has to say?

Vets gave up everything when they joined the service. Many have disabilities and no help from our government. The "other" homeless people I see are fine just dirty and begging everyday. Most got themselves into that position and don't want to get themselves out. Now we are talking about the ones that our government should be taking care of that served years and actually did something with their lives which put them in this place.

- They gave up everything
They joined a job which gives you so many opportunities compared to any other career. You get food, housing, job security, pension and more.

-The "other" homeless people I see are fine just dirty and begging everyday
So from your 2 second glance you can confirm they are fine, aye thanks doctor. Epilepsy, CPS, CRMO, PTSD, DID just to list a few conditions which alone can be debilitating yet wont be see able from a quick glance walking past them.

- actually did something with their lives
Yet again you dont know whether the people you class as "Other" are former doctors, aid workers, firemen or biochemists.

BJP

90% got where they are because of alcohol or drugs. You're hilarious.

Do you have a source for that 90% or is it just another thing you've pulled out of your arse and decided to post.

Over 26.5% / 312,000 people who used food banks in the UK had to do so not because they where homeless due to drugs but because of low income jobs.

Source: [ Register or Signin to view external links. ]

BJP

I can't speak for the UK, but in the US there are tons of unfilled higher paying jobs. There is a HUGE shortage of truckers, so short there are companies willing to train you for free (about $5k in their expense) and hire you. When I was in the carpenters union there was a huge shortage of carpenters. Starting wage was $24.55/hr. They train you for free and put your name on a list if you're un employed so other companies can hire you and you don't have to do the leg work. Why do we have so many people working min wage jobs when opportunities like this are everywhere?