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Cxmmins wrote Its his right. But it is still disrespectful for all this country has done for him.


He's not standing during a song. Big whoop. We're not North Korea or Nazi Germany.
Trying to hinder someone's freedom of expression is when you're actually shitting on the soldiers who have fought and died for this country.
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I agree with you I don't even understand how this has turned into a big problem. People will always over exaggerate things like this and make assumptions, to begin with not standing up for the national anthem isn't even doing anything to either side of the argument. He's not gaining anything out of it and we're not losing anything from it how is this such a big deal? lol
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Veizo wrote I agree with you I don't even understand how this has turned into a big problem. People will always over exaggerate things like this and make assumptions, to begin with not standing up for the national anthem isn't even doing anything to either side of the argument. He's not gaining anything out of it and we're not losing anything from it how is this such a big deal? lol


Actually its kind of a positive for Colin because after his sit out his jersey sales have skyrocketed... Ive seen videos of people burning his jersey but in reality doing that does shit all and if anything he is GAINING more money from sales lol.

I never understood burning things out of spite.
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UgIy wrote
Veizo wrote I agree with you I don't even understand how this has turned into a big problem. People will always over exaggerate things like this and make assumptions, to begin with not standing up for the national anthem isn't even doing anything to either side of the argument. He's not gaining anything out of it and we're not losing anything from it how is this such a big deal? lol


Actually its kind of a positive for Colin because after his sit out his jersey sales have skyrocketed... Ive seen videos of people burning his jersey but in reality doing that does shit all and if anything he is GAINING more money from sales lol.

I never understood burning things out of spite.

False. He makes no money off of jersey sales, the NFL does. Most of the people burning his jerseys already owned them. Many store are actually selling his stuff at a discount.

The reason that this whole thing is a big deal is because he his being disrespectful to a country that provided him with an opportunity to make the money he makes.

This has nothing to do with free speech, it's a form of protest. He can protest all he wants, but at the end of the day protesting can still make you look like an asshole. Sure, people fight for our country so that you have the right to either stand or not stand during the national anthem, but you are making a bad example for those that look up to him.

His views on the nation's issues do not matter when he is wearing his football uniform. At that point he is representing the NFL. He needs to be respectful of what the NFL expects of their players when he is representing them. That is the main issue. By acting disrespectful he makes the NFL and his team look bad.

I find it ironic that someone, who is black, is protesting about the US oppressing black people while he is making millions of dollars playing a sport.
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Not gonna lie I didn't go the pledge much in school and sometimes try to dip out whenever "To the Color" is played but never did it in the form of a protest. I didn't care about him not standing, like okay, got it. But to think he was being oppressed was ridiculous.
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UgIy wrote
Veizo wrote I agree with you I don't even understand how this has turned into a big problem. People will always over exaggerate things like this and make assumptions, to begin with not standing up for the national anthem isn't even doing anything to either side of the argument. He's not gaining anything out of it and we're not losing anything from it how is this such a big deal? lol


Actually its kind of a positive for Colin because after his sit out his jersey sales have skyrocketed... Ive seen videos of people burning his jersey but in reality doing that does shit all and if anything he is GAINING more money from sales lol.

I never understood burning things out of spite.

False. He makes no money off of jersey sales, the NFL does. Most of the people burning his jerseys already owned them. Many store are actually selling his stuff at a discount.

The reason that this whole thing is a big deal is because he his being disrespectful to a country that provided him with an opportunity to make the money he makes.

This has nothing to do with free speech, it's a form of protest. He can protest all he wants, but at the end of the day protesting can still make you look like an asshole. Sure, people fight for our country so that you have the right to either stand or not stand during the national anthem, but you are making a bad example for those that look up to him.

His views on the nation's issues do not matter when he is wearing his football uniform. At that point he is representing the NFL. He needs to be respectful of what the NFL expects of their players when he is representing them. That is the main issue. By acting disrespectful he makes the NFL and his team look bad.

I find it ironic that someone, who is black, is protesting about the US oppressing black people while he is making millions of dollars playing a sport.


"The 49ers issued a statement about Kaepernick's decision: "The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem."

Doesnt seem like the 49ers have an issue with his decision. In what ways in sitting during a song disrespectful to his country? Weather or not you agree with what he said about the flag and his reasoning behind not standing, it doesnt seem disrespectful to me, AT MOST it would make him seem ignorant since he is only seeing what looks to be a small portion of the greater picture.

Being closed minded is not disrespectful, I know it may seem like I like Colin in this thread but I think hes a complete idiot. However I feel he is in the right to do as he wishes, thats a basic American right and you cant take that away from him.
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ProJimmyRustler wrote This has nothing to do with free speech, it's a form of protest.


That's an oxymoron. The freedom of expression and ability to protest something is basically the entire premise behind the first amendment.
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He states he sat because "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

If he feels that way then he should use the millions upon millions he makes to help solve that problem outside of the work place. The work place is not the place you should be protesting about something like this. If you feel as though American oppresses black people then take the money you make and do do something about it instead of siting during the national anthem.
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I see nothing wrong with what he did. This is America, he is entitles to his rights and he used his first amendment right.

What I hate is that we as Americans are more worried about a sports player not "respecting" the national anthem, meanwhile the Pentagon has "misplaced" 6.5 TRILLION dollars and no one says a word.
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The only problem with this entire situation is that fact most Americans think you have to stand during the pledge or National Anthem.

No where in our constitution does it say that you have to stand and remove any head wear i.e hats during the pledge or National Anthem. But, all of a sudden, one person doesn't stand and it's the end of the country as we know it.

We have the freedom of speech, but when we use it, we're questioned.

It's not a crime, it will more than likely never be a crime to not stand during the pledge or anthem. Everybody needs to get over it. The only reason it got to this point is because news stations are money hungry and will show anything that a majority of the country doesn't agree with, even if it is something as small as kneeling on the ground while a song is played.
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