The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS. And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun. A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time.

The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS.

And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant

And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun.

A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time

Motivational wrote

Excuse me? Guns don't server a purpose? Tell me again how I am supposed to put food on the table for my family when I can't afford it.

Sorry, let me rephrase that sentence.

Excuse me? Drugs don't serve a purpose? Tell me again how I am supposed to put food on the table for my family when I can't afford it. Them drugs let me make money.

Your lack of education is no excuse for having to use a weapon to provide an income. That's like a thief or drug dealer saying that what he does is good because he has no other option and that's his only way to provide for himself. There's nothing good about having to shoot innocent animals because it's your only method of income.

That gun is a tool used to help the women that is about to get raped defend herself.

That gun is also used by rapists to help rape woman? I can guarentee you that a woman does not have time to reach into her handbag, take out a weapon, remove the safety, point it at the attacker and fire multiple shots. The majority of rapes are commited by people who are extremely close to the victim. Nobody is going to shoot someone that they love, even if their life is in danger.

Only around 10% of rapes are committed by 'strangers'. Around 90% of rapes are committed by known men, and often by someone who the survivor has previously trusted or even loved. People are raped in their homes, their workplaces and other settings where they have previously felt safe. Rapists can be friends, colleagues, clients, neighbours, family members, partners or exes.

If you want to defend yourself from rape, it's called pepper spray and self defence classes. There's no need for a woman to be carrying a loaded gun in their handbags.

A 9mm would have no problem taking out a guy with a fully automatic weapon. However, that gun was NOT a fully automatic rifle. It was semi automatic. Please, look into the facts before you speak on them.

It's extremely easy to convert a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic one, so I assumed that the gunman had done that. Especially considering the crazy amount of people that he injured and killed and how educated and experienced he was with weapons.

No. There's no way in hell that you could pull a 9mm from a holster and proceed to fire when you're extremely intoxicated and the gunman is pointing a rifle in your direction. You're forgetting to add things such as the fact the people out were drunk, they would be in shock and they're panicking. I can guarantee you that one of the clubs had a weapon under the table or even using a melee weapon like a knife or bottle. People were scared and ran for their lives though.

This man was a trained security guard, he knew what he was doing and didn't panic and wasn't inexperienced . He graduated with a degree in criminal-justice technology from Indian River Community College in 2006, he was not a stupid person. The police had trouble taking him down for god's sake. This is real life and not COD.

Do you know why the UK doesn't have many school shootings? Guns have been illegal there to the average citizen for a very long time. If you think that illegalizing guns in America would have the same effect, you're an idiot. There are a ton of guns already here, most people are not going to give them up. Just like drugs, making them illegal won't do much.

So what? It can't be any worse than it is already. There's a ridiculous amount of shooting happening that shouldn't be and for no reason whatsoever. Very few of the people who commit these mass shootings actually get the guns illegally, because there's no bloody need to! They just ask the government if they can have one and they get it.

As far as school / population goes, you can say that, however you're just applying numbers and saying everything is going to be 100% across the board like that. It won't be. Let's flip the tables on you here. In the US, roughly 1500 people die from getting stabbed yearly, compared for 14k people fell victim to people using knives. Huh, does that mean that the UK should ban knives? After all that number should a fraction of what it is beings that only 1500 people died in the US each year from knives, and the US is 5x bigger.

It won't be. Let's flip the tables on you here. In the US, roughly 1500 people die from getting stabbed yearly, compared for 14k people fell victim to people using knives. Huh, does that mean that the UK should ban knives?

You must be getting pretty desperate if you brought that up.

Firstly, a knife is not a killing machine. It has a purpose other than destroying things, such as preparing food, gathering resources and so on. There's literally thousands of uses for a knife, I could name plenty more. A gun has one purpose, to kill or damage objects.

A knife cannot kill large amounts of people. It can kill at most, one or two. It's not even hard to disarm someone with a knife, I did five years of self-defence classes and I'd rather someone had a knife than a baseball bat any day of the week.

If someone gets stabbed in the UK, it's normally either to do with a drug-related crime or a robbery. Nobody has ever killed a school of children in the UK with a knife.

Lots of people are generally evil. There's very little access to guns in the UK, therefore people who wanted to hurt an individual person result to using a knife. I'm not saying that we're all saints but I'd rather take my chances in an almost fair fight against a knife than be hunted by a rifle.

I watched a documentary once about a man who got hacked into with a samurai sword, beaten with a baseball bat and stabbed about ten times and he lived. If you want to survive bad enough, you can. It's not the same with a gun.

After all that number should a fraction of what it is beings that only 1500 people died in the US each year from knives, and the US is 5x bigger

Why the hell would you use an knife when you can get legally purchase and own a semi-automatic rifle instead?

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The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS. And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun. A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time.

The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS.

What's your point? Whether he's a homophobic or a terrorist is completely irrelevant. He shot over one hundred people, his motives are completely unrelated to the actual crime.

And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant

What? He was a respected member of society and good person until he went on a shooting spree, he committed one crime. One terrible crime but that doesn't mean that he has been a terrible person throughout his whole life.

And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun.

I actually have no words.

What the hell do you need protection from? Other guns maybe?

If someone wants to take your life, they will take it. Period. You can't "protect yourself" against someone who wants to specifically kill you, they would have shot you or stabbed you before you even know about it.

A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time

What? I own about ten airsoft guns and I've fired real guns before. In terms of actual target practice, I'd take an airsoft weapon anyday. They're cheaper, quieter, less expensive to maintain, you can't kill someone, they're not illegal, would you like me to give you another hundred reasons?

And I have a bolt action airsoft rifle and it's almost identical to a real one except obviously it isn't as loud and doesn't fire real bullets. You still have to bolt it back, load the magazine and so on.

And if you're going to talk about ignorance, when you're talking about yourself you should capitalise it. I learn that when I was ten.

iGiveDZNadvice wrote

Motivational wrote

Excuse me? Guns don't server a purpose? Tell me again how I am supposed to put food on the table for my family when I can't afford it.

Sorry, let me rephrase that sentence.

Excuse me? Drugs don't serve a purpose? Tell me again how I am supposed to put food on the table for my family when I can't afford it. Them drugs let me make money.

Your lack of education is no excuse for having to use a weapon to provide an income. That's like a thief or drug dealer saying that what he does is good because he has no other option and that's his only way to provide for himself. There's nothing good about having to shoot innocent animals because it's your only method of income.

That gun is a tool used to help the women that is about to get raped defend herself.

That gun is also used by rapists to help rape woman? I can guarentee you that a woman does not have time to reach into her handbag, take out a weapon, remove the safety, point it at the attacker and fire multiple shots. The majority of rapes are commited by people who are extremely close to the victim. Nobody is going to shoot someone that they love, even if their life is in danger.

Only around 10% of rapes are committed by 'strangers'. Around 90% of rapes are committed by known men, and often by someone who the survivor has previously trusted or even loved. People are raped in their homes, their workplaces and other settings where they have previously felt safe. Rapists can be friends, colleagues, clients, neighbours, family members, partners or exes.

If you want to defend yourself from rape, it's called pepper spray and self defence classes. There's no need for a woman to be carrying a loaded gun in their handbags.

A 9mm would have no problem taking out a guy with a fully automatic weapon. However, that gun was NOT a fully automatic rifle. It was semi automatic. Please, look into the facts before you speak on them.

It's extremely easy to convert a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic one, so I assumed that the gunman had done that. Especially considering the crazy amount of people that he injured and killed and how educated and experienced he was with weapons.

No. There's no way in hell that you could pull a 9mm from a holster and proceed to fire when you're extremely intoxicated and the gunman is pointing a rifle in your direction. You're forgetting to add things such as the fact the people out were drunk, they would be in shock and they're panicking. I can guarantee you that one of the clubs had a weapon under the table or even using a melee weapon like a knife or bottle. People were scared and ran for their lives though.

This man was a trained security guard, he knew what he was doing and didn't panic and wasn't inexperienced . He graduated with a degree in criminal-justice technology from Indian River Community College in 2006, he was not a stupid person. The police had trouble taking him down for god's sake. This is real life and not COD.

Do you know why the UK doesn't have many school shootings? Guns have been illegal there to the average citizen for a very long time. If you think that illegalizing guns in America would have the same effect, you're an idiot. There are a ton of guns already here, most people are not going to give them up. Just like drugs, making them illegal won't do much.

So what? It can't be any worse than it is already. There's a ridiculous amount of shooting happening that shouldn't be and for no reason whatsoever. Very few of the people who commit these mass shootings actually get the guns illegally, because there's no bloody need to! They just ask the government if they can have one and they get it.

As far as school / population goes, you can say that, however you're just applying numbers and saying everything is going to be 100% across the board like that. It won't be. Let's flip the tables on you here. In the US, roughly 1500 people die from getting stabbed yearly, compared for 14k people fell victim to people using knives. Huh, does that mean that the UK should ban knives? After all that number should a fraction of what it is beings that only 1500 people died in the US each year from knives, and the US is 5x bigger.

It won't be. Let's flip the tables on you here. In the US, roughly 1500 people die from getting stabbed yearly, compared for 14k people fell victim to people using knives. Huh, does that mean that the UK should ban knives?

You must be getting pretty desperate if you brought that up.

Firstly, a knife is not a killing machine. It has a purpose other than destroying things, such as preparing food, gathering resources and so on. There's literally thousands of uses for a knife, I could name plenty more. A gun has one purpose, to kill or damage objects.

A knife cannot kill large amounts of people. It can kill at most, one or two. It's not even hard to disarm someone with a knife, I did five years of self-defence classes and I'd rather someone had a knife than a baseball bat any day of the week.

If someone gets stabbed in the UK, it's normally either to do with a drug-related crime or a robbery. Nobody has ever killed a school of children in the UK with a knife.

Lots of people are generally evil. There's very little access to guns in the UK, therefore people who wanted to hurt an individual person result to using a knife. I'm not saying that we're all saints but I'd rather take my chances in an almost fair fight against a knife than be hunted by a rifle.

I watched a documentary once about a man who got hacked into with a samurai sword, beaten with a baseball bat and stabbed about ten times and he lived. If you want to survive bad enough, you can. It's not the same with a gun.

After all that number should a fraction of what it is beings that only 1500 people died in the US each year from knives, and the US is 5x bigger

Why the hell would you use an knife when you can get legally purchase and own a semi-automatic rifle instead?

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@Continueous

The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS. And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun. A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time.

The shooter at the gay nightclub was a terrorist, he pledged his Allegiance to ISIS.

What's your point? Whether he's a homophobic or a terrorist is completely irrelevant. He shot over one hundred people, his motives are completely unrelated to the actual crime.

And should i mention that he is a criminal, criminals don't care about the law, so they do what ever they want to do. And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant

What? He was a respected member of society and good person until he went on a shooting spree, he committed one crime. One terrible crime but that doesn't mean that he has been a terrible person throughout his whole life.

And for you to say that guns do not serve a purpose is just being ignorant. I have stated that they could be used for protection, but they're many other reasons that some one might want a gun.

I actually have no words.

What the hell do you need protection from? Other guns maybe?

If someone wants to take your life, they will take it. Period. You can't "protect yourself" against someone who wants to specifically kill you, they would have shot you or stabbed you before you even know about it.

A air-soft rifle does not behave like a actual gun. You are being close minded and are not even trying to see both sides of the argument. I'm clearly not going to talk any sense into you people, so i will just stop wasting my time

What? I own about ten airsoft guns and I've fired real guns before. In terms of actual target practice, I'd take an airsoft weapon anyday. They're cheaper, quieter, less expensive to maintain, you can't kill someone, they're not illegal, would you like me to give you another hundred reasons?

And I have a bolt action airsoft rifle and it's almost identical to a real one except obviously it isn't as loud and doesn't fire real bullets. You still have to bolt it back, load the magazine and so on.

And if you're going to talk about ignorance, when you're talking about yourself you should capitalise it. I learn that when I was ten.