AR15 wrote

Kendosaur wrote

AR15 wrote

This would not have happened if I was the one in power in that area. Every single person that was caught destroying or defacing these monuments would be severely beaten and then arrested. People fought and died to protect assholes like this. **** all of them for defacing and destroying those monuments.

Having an opinion and wanting to show it in the form of peaceful protests is fine. But, that shit isn't.

All right, calm down you, Hitler.

People did not fight in wars to protect anyone, they were sent to fight by a corrupt government that starts wars over oil.

Obviously you have a very flawed outlook on our soldiers and what they do for us. To say that the military is not protecting people and going there solely for oil is idiotic. If you had to live a week in their boots and see the shit that they go through on a day to day basis and then to come home to people like you who think they know better and treat them like shit. The government doesn't have as much to do with our military as everyone likes to say. Sure, they direct them, but what goes on when there is generally left up to the top brass in the military itself. Also, I am not Hitler. I did genocide Jews for political reasons. Just because I have a love for my country and the soldiers that defend it doesn't even remotely compare me to Hitler.

Wars have been fought over petty shit in the past, but to say that our soldiers don't fight to preserve our life's is literally irritating. People like you who are super anti military don't deserve to live in this country. War and men who stand tall in hell built this country, and if you aren't willing to fight for it in my opinion you have no reason to be here.

Erudite wrote

Kendosaur wrote

AR15 wrote

This would not have happened if I was the one in power in that area. Every single person that was caught destroying or defacing these monuments would be severely beaten and then arrested. People fought and died to protect assholes like this. **** all of them for defacing and destroying those monuments.

Having an opinion and wanting to show it in the form of peaceful protests is fine. But, that shit isn't.

All right, calm down you, Hitler.

People did not fight in wars to protect anyone, they were sent to fight by a corrupt government that starts wars over oil.

The war memorial is for the World Wars.
You know, the second one with that guy with the moustache who killed millions of people?

I am very well aware of who Hitler is and what era he is from. You don't need to belittle.

I was replying to Kendosaur.
He said that the Government starts wars over oil so we shouldn't care about the war memorials when they were for world war 2 fighters which makes no sense.

Mickers wrote

1989 wrote You can't just say its Labour supporters as the people who did this are just idiots who probably have no idea what Labour or Conservatives are. I found this very upsetting aswell and also where have there been riots, I haven't heard of anything like that?

You haven't heard anything because they are choosing not to report about it!

The British media is good with choosing subjects to report on. They are excellent at it!

#NotEvenCorrupt

Kendosaur wrote How can you claim that the country is run better with Conservatives?

Possibly one of the worst parties in the UK bar UKIP. If you think that Conservative are the best party to run the country, please tell me why the UK would be better off without Europe?

Also, tell me why it is fair that Conservatives are in with a majority without even having over 40% of the overall vote. How is that a democracy when 60& of the country did not vote for them.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all voted for different parties yet, as England voted Conservatives we got them. Absolute joke.

Once Scotland is out then all the better.

Because the other 60% didn't vote for one party. They did get the majority vote. I don't know how people don't understand the voting system.

See people complaining about green party getting 1.1m votes or whatever and getting 1 seat, whereas 50+ for SNP with 1.3m votes. Comes down to votes per constituency. It's all very simple.

The party in power are the party that haven't ruined the country in the last 5 years, the country is running, people are working. I support Liberal Democrats and I couldn't bare a Labour government.

Senate wrote

Kendosaur wrote How can you claim that the country is run better with Conservatives?

Possibly one of the worst parties in the UK bar UKIP. If you think that Conservative are the best party to run the country, please tell me why the UK would be better off without Europe?

Also, tell me why it is fair that Conservatives are in with a majority without even having over 40% of the overall vote. How is that a democracy when 60& of the country did not vote for them.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all voted for different parties yet, as England voted Conservatives we got them. Absolute joke.

Once Scotland is out then all the better.

Because the other 60% didn't vote for one party. They did get the majority vote. I don't know how people don't understand the voting system.

See people complaining about green party getting 1.1m votes or whatever and getting 1 seat, whereas 50+ for SNP with 1.3m votes. Comes down to votes per constituency. It's all very simple.

The party in power are the party that haven't ruined the country in the last 5 years, the country is running, people are working. I support Liberal Democrats and I couldn't bare a Labour government.

I understand the voting system, I just don't understand how it is fair in the slightest. How can 40% of the country decide who runs the country? This is extremely unfair.

Look at the Scottish referendum. The fairest way to vote in that was to go by percentage of votes, not first past the post. While first past the post is in system, countries like Scotland can not be represented in government due to the small amount of seats we have.

For Scotland to have elected 1 Tory MP but then get them in Government is absolutely shocking. To remind, I do understand the voting system. What I don't understand is the point in such a stupid idea of voting.

In reply to your 'claim' that the country is 'running'. The country is not running, are you blind. The fact that such right wing parties like UKIP can get votes shows something is wrong. Throughout history, when a country is not running efficiently, the people look to find someone to blame. Due to this, parties like UKIP and BNP gain voters. If you look at the amount of votes UKIP got in the election, that itself tells you the country is not 'running'.

Secondly, yes, people may be working. However, they are working for a wage that barely allows them to survive. People are working due to the sanctions put on those who do not work and are forced into jobs that do not pay enough to help them live a normal life. I think it is extremely ironic that there is such thing as 'the living wage' which doesn't even equal the National Minimum Wage.

0 hour contracts... don't get me started.

Kendosaur wrote

Senate wrote

Kendosaur wrote How can you claim that the country is run better with Conservatives?

Possibly one of the worst parties in the UK bar UKIP. If you think that Conservative are the best party to run the country, please tell me why the UK would be better off without Europe?

Also, tell me why it is fair that Conservatives are in with a majority without even having over 40% of the overall vote. How is that a democracy when 60& of the country did not vote for them.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all voted for different parties yet, as England voted Conservatives we got them. Absolute joke.

Once Scotland is out then all the better.

Because the other 60% didn't vote for one party. They did get the majority vote. I don't know how people don't understand the voting system.

See people complaining about green party getting 1.1m votes or whatever and getting 1 seat, whereas 50+ for SNP with 1.3m votes. Comes down to votes per constituency. It's all very simple.

The party in power are the party that haven't ruined the country in the last 5 years, the country is running, people are working. I support Liberal Democrats and I couldn't bare a Labour government.

I understand the voting system, I just don't understand how it is fair in the slightest. How can 40% of the country decide who runs the country? This is extremely unfair.

Look at the Scottish referendum. The fairest way to vote in that was to go by percentage of votes, not first past the post. While first past the post is in system, countries like Scotland can not be represented in government due to the small amount of seats we have.

For Scotland to have elected 1 Tory MP but then get them in Government is absolutely shocking. To remind, I do understand the voting system. What I don't understand is the point in such a stupid idea of voting.

In reply to your 'claim' that the country is 'running'. The country is not running, are you blind. The fact that such right wing parties like UKIP can get votes shows something is wrong. Throughout history, when a country is not running efficiently, the people look to find someone to blame. Due to this, parties like UKIP and BNP gain voters. If you look at the amount of votes UKIP got in the election, that itself tells you the country is not 'running'.

Secondly, yes, people may be working. However, they are working for a wage that barely allows them to survive. People are working due to the sanctions put on those who do not work and are forced into jobs that do not pay enough to help them live a normal life. I think it is extremely ironic that there is such thing as 'the living wage' which doesn't even equal the National Minimum Wage.

0 hour contracts... don't get me started.

The people voting Ukip are your closet racists and people who choose not to work, not people who can't. I can't take people who vote UKIP seriously since I'm wagering over 75% of the people only know one thing about UKIP, that Farage is the leader. Put it this way, say 7% want Green, 7% UKIP, 8% Lib Dem, 30% Labour, 4% Others and 42% want Conservative, Conservative are the majority Government. If we were to accommodate all parties for a fair representation, the country would come to a grinding halt. All the different ideologies, different opinions, different backing.

People stay on benefits since they get more on benefits than they would if not. I'm sorry, I'm an apprentice and I've moved out. I live on my own, I pay my bills, pay rent, and I earn less than 20k per year. You can live on 10k per year easily, people just want a cushy lifestyle. People expect a 40k per annum job with minimal effort. Problem is, you can't get that. Shock horror. So, in the grand scheme of things, when I get paid, I go to the shop, I get served by someone working. I go to a restaurant, I get served by someone working. I get on the bus, someone driving me is working. I get in a taxi, again, working. In a nightclub, barstaff, working. We have jobs for everyone, people are just far to lazy to work. The country is fine.

Plus, I was waiting for someone to bring up NHS privatisation. Thing is, It's gone from 4% to 6% in the last 5 years, which is at a much slower rate than under the good ole Labour gov.

It's getting to the point where people will riot over anything now.

Senate wrote

Kendosaur wrote

Senate wrote

Kendosaur wrote How can you claim that the country is run better with Conservatives?

Possibly one of the worst parties in the UK bar UKIP. If you think that Conservative are the best party to run the country, please tell me why the UK would be better off without Europe?

Also, tell me why it is fair that Conservatives are in with a majority without even having over 40% of the overall vote. How is that a democracy when 60& of the country did not vote for them.

Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales all voted for different parties yet, as England voted Conservatives we got them. Absolute joke.

Once Scotland is out then all the better.

Because the other 60% didn't vote for one party. They did get the majority vote. I don't know how people don't understand the voting system.

See people complaining about green party getting 1.1m votes or whatever and getting 1 seat, whereas 50+ for SNP with 1.3m votes. Comes down to votes per constituency. It's all very simple.

The party in power are the party that haven't ruined the country in the last 5 years, the country is running, people are working. I support Liberal Democrats and I couldn't bare a Labour government.

I understand the voting system, I just don't understand how it is fair in the slightest. How can 40% of the country decide who runs the country? This is extremely unfair.

Look at the Scottish referendum. The fairest way to vote in that was to go by percentage of votes, not first past the post. While first past the post is in system, countries like Scotland can not be represented in government due to the small amount of seats we have.

For Scotland to have elected 1 Tory MP but then get them in Government is absolutely shocking. To remind, I do understand the voting system. What I don't understand is the point in such a stupid idea of voting.

In reply to your 'claim' that the country is 'running'. The country is not running, are you blind. The fact that such right wing parties like UKIP can get votes shows something is wrong. Throughout history, when a country is not running efficiently, the people look to find someone to blame. Due to this, parties like UKIP and BNP gain voters. If you look at the amount of votes UKIP got in the election, that itself tells you the country is not 'running'.

Secondly, yes, people may be working. However, they are working for a wage that barely allows them to survive. People are working due to the sanctions put on those who do not work and are forced into jobs that do not pay enough to help them live a normal life. I think it is extremely ironic that there is such thing as 'the living wage' which doesn't even equal the National Minimum Wage.

0 hour contracts... don't get me started.

The people voting Ukip are your closet racists and people who choose not to work, not people who can't. I can't take people who vote UKIP seriously since I'm wagering over 75% of the people only know one thing about UKIP, that Farage is the leader. Put it this way, say 7% want Green, 7% UKIP, 8% Lib Dem, 30% Labour, 4% Others and 42% want Conservative, Conservative are the majority Government. If we were to accommodate all parties for a fair representation, the country would come to a grinding halt. All the different ideologies, different opinions, different backing.

People stay on benefits since they get more on benefits than they would if not. I'm sorry, I'm an apprentice and I've moved out. I live on my own, I pay my bills, pay rent, and I earn less than 20k per year. You can live on 10k per year easily, people just want a cushy lifestyle. People expect a 40k per annum job with minimal effort. Problem is, you can't get that. Shock horror. So, in the grand scheme of things, when I get paid, I go to the shop, I get served by someone working. I go to a restaurant, I get served by someone working. I get on the bus, someone driving me is working. I get in a taxi, again, working. In a nightclub, barstaff, working. We have jobs for everyone, people are just far to lazy to work. The country is fine.

Plus, I was waiting for someone to bring up NHS privatisation. Thing is, It's gone from 4% to 6% in the last 5 years, which is at a much slower rate than under the good ole Labour gov.

But you are not getting the point. UKIP didn't get this much votes in the last election. The reason for the sudden rise is due to the people looking for change, thus, looking to right wing parties like UKIP. I understand what you're saying, however, it is still unfair that Scotland can not elect one Conservative MP (I know they elected one, I'm just saying) and get a Conservative government.

EXACTLY. You have just answered the problem with our society. People can achieve more on benefits. For example, a single mom, no qualifications, 2 children and rent to pay. Why would she get a job which means she will be worse off when she can not work, look after her children and be better off? Now do not tell me that this is her fault. A lot of people have this idiotic idea that this is the mother's fault, but it is not. Why would anyone go out and work 40 hours but then have less money? The minimum wage is too small. This is proven by the fact that people in certain circumstances are better off on benefits.

To me it is stupid that the minimum wage isn't higher. If the minimum wage was higher, more people would chose to work as it would actually benefit them, thus meaning more tax paid and less people on benefits. If big businesses don't want to pay that then they shouldn't operate in our country. No one should work for nothing.

Things aren't as simple as to just say 'work in a shop' 'work more hours' 'work two jobs', these are people's lives. Everyone has a different reason for not working but most people who are unemployed are so as they are better off not working and that is the sad reality.

In a society that work doesn't pay we really need to ask ourselves if the country is 'running' as mentioned before.

Lyttle_Jr wrote It's getting to the point where people will riot over anything now.

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AS17 wrote I hope Cameron dies.

That's a bit harsh for only not agreeing with his ideologies.

AS17 wrote

Lavish wrote

AS17 wrote I hope Cameron dies.

That's a bit harsh for only not agreeing with his ideologies.

It's not harsh at all mate. I guess you aren't British?

It is a bit mate lol. As an extreme anti-tory, even I wouldn't go that far.