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He deserved that at the least.
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Serj wrote I don't know too much about Chad Littlefield so I can't judge him, but Chris Kyle lived violence.
Does this make his death any less tragic? No. But people who are calling for the death penalty are forgetting that Chris Kyle himself killed, according to him, 225 people.

Now I'm not saying you're stupid if you believe that every single one of those kills was justified, but you are definitely gullible and are blinded by patriotic nonsense.

Chris Kyle lied multiple times about a variety of different things, he said he enjoyed his time on tours, and that he wishes they were allowed to 'Kill anyone with a Quran.'
Believing that he killed no innocent people, after knowing that he said things like this, is , to me, ludicrous.

Also, I've seen the argument made that even if he did kill innocent people he was just doing his job and made split second decisions. If this is the case, and it's all right because it's all part of war, why has he never admitted that possibility? Any time he has been asked if he killed any innocent people in interviews, he never once gave a straight answer, always deflecting to another subject.

As far as I'm concerned he used death, war, and misery to become a celebrity.
There's nothing heroic about it. A sniper should do his duty, come home, and get back to living his life. Not gloat about how many people he's killed and lie about shooting looters or car thieves, and lie about having a fight with Jesse Ventura.

A real hero doesn't seek recognition for their deeds.

So, I'm not going to break down crying and calling for the death penalty for his killer.
It's a silly revenge based and hypocritical desire born out of emotion and the patriotic propaganda pushed through America that Chris Kyle was a hero.

You're pathetic, and apparently must be a blast at parties. I'm not saying our wars in the middle east were justified, they weren't. We were there and still are there for selfish reasons. It wasn't about freedoms or anything. But of course in his time that he developed a hatred towards the Arabic/Muslim people. In his head it was probably a justification for killing them. It probably made his job easier for him, both physically and mentally, and probably helped him with coping with murder.
And as for claiming recognition, please, everyone wants to be the best in the world at something, even if it is sniping. His life was the Marines, he was a loser before, its the only good he accomplished in life other than his family. Of course he would claim recognition for it.
He undoubtedly killed innocent people, but his evading the questions could've just been a mental defense mechanism to not think about them. No matter how tough of a man he was, there were some people he wished he didn't kill, even though he never admitted it.
I'm not saying he's the great Star Spangled hero his movie makes him out to be, but he served in the United States Marines, worked to protect other soldiers, and fought for our country, not for the reason we were really there. Try to understand how hard it would be on anyone, even someone as tough as him.
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Serj wrote
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Woodkid wrote I don't know too much about Chad Littlefield so I can't judge him, but Chris Kyle lived violence.
Does this make his death any less tragic? No. But people who are calling for the death penalty are forgetting that Chris Kyle himself killed, according to him, 225 people.

Now I'm not saying you're stupid if you believe that every single one of those kills was justified, but you are definitely gullible and are blinded by patriotic nonsense.

Chris Kyle lied multiple times about a variety of different things, he said he enjoyed his time on tours, and that he wishes they were allowed to 'Kill anyone with a Quran.'
Believing that he killed no innocent people, after knowing that he said things like this, is , to me, ludicrous.

So, I'm not going to break down crying and calling for the death penalty for his killer.

I have other reasons for being against the death penalty as well, but this is a major one in this case.


So if someone killed your mother, father, etc. you wouldn't want the death penalty given to them?


I would be emotionally involved in that situation so any rational conclusion which I would normally have reached, like the death penalty should be illegal, wouldn't be compromised.

My emotions would be compromised, and they would cloud my judgement.

Although I'm not sure that I would, I don't think anyone can say what they would or wouldn't want in that situation.

My reasons for opposing the death penalty are that innocent people have been executed in the past.
It costs less to imprison a person for life than it does to execute them.
It doesn't work as a preventative for other murders.
It's hypocritical.

How on Earth do you think it costs less to imprison for life than it does to execute? A rifle bullet is an average of $2 nowadays. Good luck trying to imprison someone for $2 for life. I do agree with your statement that sometimes innocent people are killed, and as sad as it is, most cases of this were many years ago. Bottom line is in the United States are prisons are beginning to be overcrowded, and too much money goes to the Penal system. Maybe reinstating the death penalty would be a positive, after all, many offenders for serious capital crimes usually are repeat offenders.
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Serj wrote I don't know too much about Chad Littlefield so I can't judge him, but Chris Kyle lived violence.
Does this make his death any less tragic? No. But people who are calling for the death penalty are forgetting that Chris Kyle himself killed, according to him, 225 people.

Now I'm not saying you're stupid if you believe that every single one of those kills was justified, but you are definitely gullible and are blinded by patriotic nonsense.

Chris Kyle lied multiple times about a variety of different things, he said he enjoyed his time on tours, and that he wishes they were allowed to 'Kill anyone with a Quran.'
Believing that he killed no innocent people, after knowing that he said things like this, is , to me, ludicrous.

Also, I've seen the argument made that even if he did kill innocent people he was just doing his job and made split second decisions. If this is the case, and it's all right because it's all part of war, why has he never admitted that possibility? Any time he has been asked if he killed any innocent people in interviews, he never once gave a straight answer, always deflecting to another subject.

As far as I'm concerned he used death, war, and misery to become a celebrity.
There's nothing heroic about it. A sniper should do his duty, come home, and get back to living his life. Not gloat about how many people he's killed and lie about shooting looters or car thieves, and lie about having a fight with Jesse Ventura.

A real hero doesn't seek recognition for their deeds.

So, I'm not going to break down crying and calling for the death penalty for his killer.
It's a silly revenge based and hypocritical desire born out of emotion and the patriotic propaganda pushed through America that Chris Kyle was a hero.

You're pathetic, and apparently must be a blast at parties. I'm not saying our wars in the middle east were justified, they weren't. We were there and still are there for selfish reasons. It wasn't about freedoms or anything. But of course in his time that he developed a hatred towards the Arabic/Muslim people. In his head it was probably a justification for killing them. It probably made his job easier for him, both physically and mentally, and probably helped him with coping with murder.
And as for claiming recognition, please, everyone wants to be the best in the world at something, even if it is sniping. His life was the Marines, he was a loser before, its the only good he accomplished in life other than his family. Of course he would claim recognition for it.
He undoubtedly killed innocent people, but his evading the questions could've just been a mental defense mechanism to not think about them. No matter how tough of a man he was, there were some people he wished he didn't kill, even though he never admitted it.
I'm not saying he's the great Star Spangled hero his movie makes him out to be, but he served in the United States Marines, worked to protect other soldiers, and fought for our country, not for the reason we were really there. Try to understand how hard it would be on anyone, even someone as tough as him.


He killed innocent people. Just think about what you're actually saying there.
It's easy to say that and turn a cold shoulder to it, but at the very least he should have been ridiculed, and at the most he should have been charged with war crimes.

Plenty of people can join the army, do their tours, and come back not hating every Muslim. That's a silly excuse for his silly beliefs, and those silly beliefs led him to kill innocent people.

We as a society have celebrated the deaths of innocent people at this man's hands, and it's despicable.
He should have shown some shame and been humble in what he did, accepted that he might have killed some innocent people, instead of acting like the great American hero who did no wrong which everyone treated him, and still treats him, as.

How on Earth do you think it costs less to imprison for life than it does to execute? A rifle bullet is an average of $2 nowadays. Good luck trying to imprison someone for $2 for life. I do agree with your statement that sometimes innocent people are killed, and as sad as it is, most cases of this were many years ago. Bottom line is in the United States are prisons are beginning to be overcrowded, and too much money goes to the Penal system. Maybe reinstating the death penalty would be a positive, after all, many offenders for serious capital crimes usually are repeat offenders.


How on Earth you just simplified the cost of legalizing the death penalty down to the cost of a rifle bullet I have no idea.
If you hadn't noticed, the US doesn't use a firing squad to execute people. They use lethal injection.
Lethal injection costs a lot of money, not to mention the appeals processes through the courts, and the cost for medical and psychological exams of the inmate.

You've just done it again. I tell you that innocent people have died and you just brush it off like it doesn't matter.
Innocent people were being executed after they introduced DNA and fingerprint evidence, and the court systems haven't changed that much, we know there are innocent people in prisons today, you introduce the death penalty and some of those innocent people are going to die.

Instead of executing prisoners and making room for the next wave, maybe the US could start improving education and put more into public spending rather than spending more on defence than the next 8 countries combined?
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FoxNews wrote
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Woodkid wrote My reasons for opposing the death penalty are that innocent people have been executed in the past.
It costs less to imprison a person for life than it does to execute them.
It doesn't work as a preventative for other murders.
It's hypocritical.


1. He isn't innocent.
2. That's true.
3. How do you figure that? If he isn't alive to kill anyone else, I'd say it has prevented him from killing again.
4. Is taking a kidnapper away from his family and locking him in a cage for the rest of his life hypocritical too?


My point about innocence was that if you have the death penalty legal then you are bound to kill some innocent people.
My point about it not working as a preventative is the death penalty being legal doesn't make people commit less murders, it's not a good deterrent.
The kidnapper thing is a good point, but because there aren't any alternative punishments, while it is hypocritical, I don't mind it personally.


Does this mean you are against any type of war? Because war involves killing innocent people, also, innocent people get convicted of something they did not do everyday. Its our justice system. No matter how much we improve it, it will never be perfect. Nothing in this world is perfect.


War is different. You're working to prevent further deaths of innocent people. You already have the person in custody here, no more innocent people are going to die.
There's a big difference between being in prison and being able to constantly appeal what you've been charged with to being executed before any new evidence can come up.
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So annoyed of the death of chris kyle. If i was anyone had had power over this i would give him a death penalty
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Thanks for this news man. Glad he's in the slammer.
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