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Alright guys, lets get started. I am an atheist, for those of you who don't know, atheism is the theory or belief that God does not exist. However I will try to give people an argument that is as unbiased as I can make it..

Bible:
Right, so lets start with the Bible. The Bible is a story that has been passed down for several hundred years, and has basically been one big game of Chinese Whispers on a massive scale!
When the Bible was originally written, it was written in ancient Greek. And then over time was translated into Latin. Very few people spoke either of these languages. And so, at that time, the only things the majority of people new about the bible was what people of higher intelligence told them. And it is very highly thought that these people who could speak Latin used this to get what they wanted from those who did not, they distorted what the bible said for their own personal gain, by telling people that that is what the Bible said.
However, now it has been translated, there are several parts of the Bible that may well have been translated wrong, let alone not been true to start with. For example, when Moses parted the Red Sea, this could also have been translated into the Reed Sea, which is in fact only a few feet deep, and in the same region, which would have been easy to pass, and for another example, "Virgin" Mary may also be translated into meaning young woman, instead of our popular use of the word virgin. Rendering that part of the Bible untrue.
However, this is not completely relevant into answering the question of whether we believe God is real, as the Bible is basically, in my opinion, just a fictitious story.


Space:
Now, lets get onto the subject I know most about. If God were to have created the Universe, then he would have had an extremely HUGE challenge on his hands.
I am not particularly familiar with the 7 days of creation, however I do know that God was supposed to have created everything in the Universe in those 7 days.
It was estimated in 1999 by Hubble that there are over 125 billion galaxies in the universe, that is 125,000,000,000 galaxies. In our Milky Way galaxy, there are around 400 billion stars, that is 400,000,000,000 stars in our galaxy alone. And it is thought there can be as many as 100 trillion stars in some galaxies, or 100,000,000,000,000 stars. That means, that in theory, if we take how many stars there are in our Galaxy as an average, then there is around 5x1022 stars in the universe. That is 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars in our universe. And EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS DIFFERENT. There is also estimated to be more than one planet orbiting most stars in the Universe. For example, our star has 7 planets orbiting it. However it is EXTREMELY hard to detect other planets orbiting other stars, and so we cannot be sure.
But even so, you are telling me, that God could think of 125 billion different shapes of galaxies, as every single Galaxy is extremely different.

Here are some examples of different Galaxies:
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As you can see, these are just a select few galaxies, and they are all EXTREMELY different. Are you telling me God could think of 125 billion different shapes and sizes for Galaxies? Let alone all the different stars in the Universe.


Paley's Watch Theory:
Enough of numbers, we're now moving on to Paley's Watch Theory! For those of you who do not know what that is, I will quickly describe this theory.

Basically, this theory says that everything is SO complex, that it indicates there must have been a designer behind it all. That "design implies a designer." This theory uses a watch as an analogy, it compares natural phenomena to a watch, as the Universe and how everything works is so complicated that it's just like a watch, which indicates that there was a designer to the Universe. And some use the analogy that, the Universe is so complex, that it is the same as just finding a fully working watch on a beach, that was created completely by chance, by natural phenomena.

However, this theory has been criticized a lot. The first main criticism is that complex artifacts do not, in fact, require a designer, but can and do arise from "mindless" natural processes. However, the biggest criticism, in my opinion, is simply that if the Universe was not as perfect as it is, then we would not be here discussing this topic. If everything had not gone as perfectly as it had done from the second the Universe came into creation, then we would simply not be here. If there had not been a slight in-balance in the spread of atoms across the universe, then nothing would have ever happened to start with. And it continues, if the chain of events that did happen, did not happen in the exact way they did, we would not be here.

And here's were physics comes into it again. As some physicists believe in the "Multiverse" which is the idea that this is not the only Universe, and there are thousands of others, each with their own fates. And in the majority of these Universes, not everything would go exactly right, as it did here, and so that Universe would grow old and die without anything happening. But because everything went right in our Universe, because everything was perfect, Planet Earth was created, and the Human race was created.


Adam and Eve:
Once again, I am not the most familiar person in the world with the stories of the Bible. However, I do know how the story of Adam and Eve worked. I know Eve was created out of one of Adam's ribs, and I know that Adam and Eve both ate from the forbidden tree of knowledge of good and evil. Which is what caused them to be rejected from the Garden of Eden. This indicates many things, firstly, that Darwinian Evolution Theory is completely wrong. And secondly that we are all descended from the same two people. Now, I'm not going to run round shouting INCEST, because I'm not 12. However science has proved both of these two inferences wrong. First of all Darwinian Evolution Theory is now world renowned fact in the science community, as the evidence for the fact that we have evolved from monkeys is un-negotiable. There is no way you can look at a Chimpanzee, and tell me we are in no way related. And secondly science has proved that it is not physically possible for us all to have been descended from the same two people, do not ask me how they worked that out, I have absolutely no idea! Now for all of those "die-hard" religious people who believe every single world the Bible says, I feel sorry for you for having to believe such a load of rubbish. For once on this post I will be blunt about religion, and that is that there is NO WAY that the story of Adam and Eve is true, and there is no doubt there.


Believers:
Don't get me wrong guys, I am not trying to change your opinion on whether to believe in God or not. If you believe in God I completely respect you for that, as every human being is entitled to the right to have religion, or not as the case may be. I am simply putting across my points for reasons I am atheist, if enough people request, I will put in sections backing up the belief in God, to make this a much more fair post. But its all your choice. I would just hope that you respect me in my opinions as I respect people who are religious for their opinions.
(Except scientologists. Scientology is the biggest load of rubbish ever)


Credits:
Thank you for visiting my post, I hope I gave you an insight into why I personally do not believe God does not exist, or if I reinforced your belief in God, I'm glad about that too! Please, if you see any mistakes in my post, inform me and I will make adjustments. I will update this post with new sections when I can.

Any additional information you would like me to add would be greatly appreciated, and your name will be added to the post as thanks!

Please thank the topic, vote on the poll and post what you think about God's existence to keep the topic alive!



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Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think the primary purpose of your life, of my life and the entirety of the human race's is just to blindly consume to support a failing economy and a faulty system, forever and ever until we run out of every resource and have to resort to blowing each other up to ensure our own survival. I don't think we're supposed to sit by idle while we continue to use a long outdated system that produces war, poverty, collusion, corruption, ruins our environment and threatens every aspect of our health and does nothing but divide and segregate us. I don't think how much military equipment we are selling to other countries, how many hydrocarbons we're burning, how much money is being printed and exchanged, is a good measure of how healthy our society is but I do think I can speak for everyone when I say, we're sick of this shit.




Now taking suggestions of what to add to this post, if you want me to back up God's side, then tell me. If you have other things you want me to give my opinion on, regarding religion, post below. All help is appreciated!


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You cant so no or yes because no one will now.
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Timer wrote You cant so no or yes because no one will now.


yea i agree you cant tell
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a magical wizard in the sky created everything and judjes people based on the actions they make and if he likes them he sends them to a magical place in the sky and if doesnt like them then he sends them to hell with demons and shit.............ya seems legit
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You can however say whether you believe he is real or not, I'm not trying to say he is not real or he is real. I am giving my basis on why I don't BELIEVE he is real. Not how I know he isn't real.
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And Adam and eve is a load of crap also lol
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iWorkForXbox wrote And Adam and eve is a load of crap also lol


could write a section on adam and eve actually
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Lol lmfao i think i dont believe in god anymore because of this. But then explain ghost and the dead?
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Stop trying to be so nice.
God does not exist - fact.
No more realistic than a third grader thinking a lkadjflksajdjfahdlkfhsdkjf exists..

whatever that would be, it is unrealistic, and is non - existent, Period
same EXACT thing with religion
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Did anyone in your family die? Do you want to be with them again?
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