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Hi guys. I have an exploited console, that has some burned games, that I'd really like to play on LIVE. I've heard of these sawyer files, where people could get online without xosc spoofing, and it was all from files on their computer. So I downloaded these files, and saw XeLiveHive's plugin. And a HV (Assuming its 16747 or whatever last one it was). If that is just a clean HV, would it work if we replaced that HV with the 16756?
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im sure it would but i doubt you will get a clean updated hv
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gamer7112 wrote im sure it would but i doubt you will get a clean updated hv

True, but if there is a way to clean an HV. And it seems like it's easier to use offline files than set up your own server. So I would make this my little learning project. If I get it to work, It'll be worth my while.
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gamer7112 wrote im sure it would but i doubt you will get a clean updated hv

True, but if there is a way to clean an HV. And it seems like it's easier to use offline files than set up your own server. So I would make this my little learning project. If I get it to work, It'll be worth my while.
No, you need a clean Challenge response, which is the hardest. The HV is the easiest, I was able to clean it within minutes of starting. However, the response takes awhile. The second hash changed and there are alot of functions to reverse alot of PPC and int64 address which are very long 0x0000.0000.0000 I think if I remember right. But if you can clean an HV and challenge response you can compile you're own sawyer files, it's really not that hard XOSC spoofing can be added to it but very little research is available on it. if you want to clean your own HV look into sub_2210, and start reversing from there you will notice when it starts the hash and ends it. For cleaning the response you will need to dump the response and get the challenege data from it. You need the challenge data to get the second hash. Also, don't forgot to remove the HV payload by replacing it with 0's in HxD workshop.
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gamer7112 wrote im sure it would but i doubt you will get a clean updated hv

True, but if there is a way to clean an HV. And it seems like it's easier to use offline files than set up your own server. So I would make this my little learning project. If I get it to work, It'll be worth my while.
No, you need a clean Challenge response, which is the hardest. The HV is the easiest, I was able to clean it within minutes of starting. However, the response takes awhile. The second hash changed and there are alot of functions to reverse alot of PPC and int64 address which are very long 0x0000.0000.0000 I think if I remember right. But if you can clean an HV and challenge response you can compile you're own sawyer files, it's really not that hard XOSC spoofing can be added to it but very little research is available on it. if you want to clean your own HV look into sub_2210, and start reversing from there you will notice when it starts the hash and ends it. For cleaning the response you will need to dump the response and get the challenege data from it. You need the challenge data to get the second hash. Also, don't forgot to remove the HV payload by replacing it with 0's in HxD workshop.

Although most of that didn't make sense to me, I'm going to no life the crap out of this and will not stop till I've made some progress. Time to research
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If you're doing this just for the goal of getting online to host lobbies, then it's not worth it, but if you're doing it for the learning experience, go for it.


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T-G-K wrote The 0x100F0 hash in the HV didn't change, so it's easy to clean an HV for this dash. If you're doing this just for the goal of getting online to host lobbies, then it's not worth it, but if you're doing it for the learning experience, go for it.

I don't plan on hosting lobbies anymore. I would absolutely love to learn about all of this. I love my RGH and just doing things with it. I mean, of course if I were to ever be successful with this I'd get on live and play some games I don't have on disk. But yes, this is mostly just for learning (And a bit of fun because I enjoy it)
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T-G-K wrote The 0x100F0 hash in the HV didn't change, so it's easy to clean an HV for this dash. If you're doing this just for the goal of getting online to host lobbies, then it's not worth it, but if you're doing it for the learning experience, go for it.

I don't plan on hosting lobbies anymore. I would absolutely love to learn about all of this. I love my RGH and just doing things with it. I mean, of course if I were to ever be successful with this I'd get on live and play some games I don't have on disk. But yes, this is mostly just for learning (And a bit of fun because I enjoy it)

The hash did change, sorry. I was mislead by what my friend told me. The addresses and lengths for the hashes in the challenge and HV are the same, not the data at those addresses.
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If someone could deff. get sawyer to work. I could hook you up with a KV for the files. But if not please say and I don't mean to make a full trade or anything.
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These are the new Sawyer Files there already have XOSC on them.
Place all the files on your HDD, and place the plugins or it WILL NOT WORK.
My KV lasted 2weeks using it.

This is for 16756 Latest dash
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