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I'm an atheist because I can't understand how God would've created the world. Furthermore, science is just 'one' idea (the Big Bang) whereas different religions have many apparent causes for the start of life.

I went to a Catholic school and many believed that God created the Earth. Okay, but what about all of the other God's in other people's religions. Are they real? Or are those Catholics right whereas other religions are wrong. Or, are ALL God's real?!

For me, it's just too hard to understand. There's more reason to believe science in my opinion, and if the one God is real, he/she/it isn't good when innocent people die etc. That's another reason I can't believe in God.

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There are roughly 4,200 or more religions known as of now.

Who knows which or if any are the "right" or "correct" one.
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There are a lot of different theories as to how the Universe began, the Big Bang theory is just the one that the majority of scientists agree with.

You should probably watch this though:


and, where you say;
if the one God is real, he/she/it isn't good when innocent people die etc.

That's essentially the Epicurean Dilemma, or the Problem of Evil.
You say the 'one God' so I'm assuming you're referring to the God of classical theism which would be the Christian/Jewish/Muslim God.
For Hindus, for example, there is no 'problem of evil' because they have an evil God.
There's actually a God called Kali in Hinduism who is the embodiment of evil.
There was a group of Hindu followers of Kali called the 'Thuggee' who would strange people to death as a sacrifice to her.

Anyway, for Christians/Jews/Muslims the Epicurean Dilemma isn't a hard thing to explain, but many atheists don't like the explanation.

I'm going to assume you know the story of the Garden of Eden, but what many people seem to miss is that they didn't just eat from the tree of Knowledge, they ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Now you can just say, "Well then God shouldn't have put the tree there" but the whole point in God creating life was so that he could see if people could be good and resist the temptation to be evil.
The reason that we exist on Earth is to either be good, and go to Heaven, Paradise, Nirvana, whatever you want to call it, or be bad and go to Hell.
If there was no bad in the world then there would essentially be no point.
Everyone would just get to Heaven because everyone would be good.

The Gnostic viewpoint, although it's rejected by much of the Christian faith today, explains it incredibly simply.
According to Gnostic belief, there is actually 2 gods.
The one who made the Earth, a lesser, imperfect God, and the one that humans have a personal relationship with, the all powerful, perfect God.
The lesser God is said to have made the Earth from pre-existent matter which was flawed, and because it was made by a flawed God, the world itself therefore must be flawed, which is why there is Evil.

Personally, I'm agnostic, and occasionally deist.
I don't yet understand how existence can exist without reliance on something, but I don't believe that an evolved species of primate on a small planet somewhere can have a personal relationship with a God.
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I actually believe that whatever god you believe in is your god, like people that worship Buddha and a of that stuff. If that is what they believe to be there god then tht should be there god. However, if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, and your an atheist you may go somewhere you don't want too. Also I am a Christian and I believe in god, if I'm wrong where do I stand? I don't go to heaven or hell. You might as well do yourself a favor and guarantee that you might possibly go to this great world when you die. I don't know, just my opinion.
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X12_Beaches wrote I actually believe that whatever god you believe in is your god, like people that worship Buddha and a of that stuff. If that is what they believe to be there god then tht should be there god. However, if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, and your an atheist you may go somewhere you don't want too. Also I am a Christian and I believe in god, if I'm wrong where do I stand? I don't go to heaven or hell. You might as well do yourself a favor and guarantee that you might possibly go to this great world when you die. I don't know, just my opinion.


A Christian philosopher called Blaise Pascal came up with what you said.
"If God exists the atheist loses everything, if God doesn't exist the Christian loses nothing, so you might as well believe."
It's called 'Pascal's Wager,' and is a logical fallacy.
An omniscient God, like the one described in classical theism, would know that you are only saying you believe to save yourself from possible Hell-fire, and not because you truly believe in him.

I don't think that anything short of a religious experience can make an atheist believe in God.
I've tried.
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Well Religion was found through Science so they just try cover it up with things such as "The Big Bang"
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StephenHawking wrote I'm an atheist because I can't understand how God would've created the world. Furthermore, science is just 'one' idea (the Big Bang) whereas different religions have many apparent causes for the start of life.

I went to a Catholic school and many believed that God created the Earth. Okay, but what about all of the other God's in other people's religions. Are they real? Or are those Catholics right whereas other religions are wrong. Or, are ALL God's real?!

For me, it's just too hard to understand. There's more reason to believe science in my opinion, and if the one God is real, he/she/it isn't good when innocent people die etc. That's another reason I can't believe in God.


I am Catholic so I was raised to believe in Jesus Christ the Son of God. I do believe in science too. What I believe is that all the Gods from all religions are the same. They have just been interpreted differently by each religion. I personally believe that God is something greater then what we know now. He somehow part of our whole universe. He is too great to be completely explained in a book. I kind of feel sometimes that God is a mixture of science and religion. I mean that he is more complex then we know and the Bibles from different religions are just that religions interpretation of him.
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Lecter wrote
X12_Beaches wrote I actually believe that whatever god you believe in is your god, like people that worship Buddha and a of that stuff. If that is what they believe to be there god then tht should be there god. However, if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, and your an atheist you may go somewhere you don't want too. Also I am a Christian and I believe in god, if I'm wrong where do I stand? I don't go to heaven or hell. You might as well do yourself a favor and guarantee that you might possibly go to this great world when you die. I don't know, just my opinion.


A Christian philosopher called Blaise Pascal came up with what you said.
"If God exists the atheist loses everything, if God doesn't exist the Christian loses nothing, so you might as well believe."
It's called 'Pascal's Wager,' and is a logical fallacy.
An omniscient God, like the one described in classical theism, would know that you are only saying you believe to save yourself from possible Hell-fire, and not because you truly believe in him.

I don't think that anything short of a religious experience can make an atheist believe in God.
I've tried.

there isn't a 'hell fire", scripture clearly tells all souls that didn't accept christ are laying, waiting to be resurrected on judgment day. believe god or not, unbelievers will be judged on that day and many will perish in the lake of fire
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LeBrick wrote
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X12_Beaches wrote I actually believe that whatever god you believe in is your god, like people that worship Buddha and a of that stuff. If that is what they believe to be there god then tht should be there god. However, if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, and your an atheist you may go somewhere you don't want too. Also I am a Christian and I believe in god, if I'm wrong where do I stand? I don't go to heaven or hell. You might as well do yourself a favor and guarantee that you might possibly go to this great world when you die. I don't know, just my opinion.


A Christian philosopher called Blaise Pascal came up with what you said.
"If God exists the atheist loses everything, if God doesn't exist the Christian loses nothing, so you might as well believe."
It's called 'Pascal's Wager,' and is a logical fallacy.
An omniscient God, like the one described in classical theism, would know that you are only saying you believe to save yourself from possible Hell-fire, and not because you truly believe in him.

I don't think that anything short of a religious experience can make an atheist believe in God.
I've tried.

there isn't a 'hell fire", scripture clearly tells all souls that didn't accept christ are laying, waiting to be resurrected on judgment day. believe god or not, unbelievers will be judged on that day and many will perish in the lake of fire


Right, so those people once they die 'again' after judgement day, they go to Hell, and burn in Hell fire, otherwise known as the lake of fire, like you've just said.

What's your point? You're agreeing with me.
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I have always been kind of iffy about this. I don't get how a god could form this land and all it's people. Like if you guys have ever heard of the Adam and Eve story and how they started the life for everyone, then how did we get the different colored people and all. It truly is inconclusive to what really happened to us and what put us all here.
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