John_US wrote

Afrochubman wrote Hey John, just wondering if you were going to put up the achievements.
Nice thread other wise. :thumbsup:

I actually put them in up a small amount of time before you just posted that, but they're up

Oh alright sorry didn't refresh the page.

Heres my theory on the cycles

Afrochubman wrote

This is how I'm thinking the map will go.

You start off with a cut scene of the four mobsters, and in it they die, whether it being from the zombies, or they fly the plane over to the bridge, and then once there they use the electrical chair.

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Then they are in Afterlife/Purgatory mode, and then have a limited time to do things, like give power to perk machines, or traps, or do other things. Then you can go back to your body or it automatically brings you back there after the allotted time has run out. How the mobsters bodies got back from the chairs on the bridge, I have no idea.

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So after that the four continue to fight off zombies, and they probably have forgotten about that they just died, but they know they had a plan to build a plane and escape. So they find the parts, build it, and away they go to the Golden Gate bridge, where they must fend for their lives or take their lives. So eventually they find the electric chairs and take their own lives, and then come back to Alcatraz in Afterlife/Purgatory mode, thus creating this "cycle" that has been stated in the achievements.

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But one of the achievements in breaking the cycle, which means you could either fly away somewhere else, or maybe I was thinking you rewire the electrical chairs into some kind of a teleporter from someone else's help.

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It seems legit!

From what I understand, Benn posted what he posted two days before the trailer was released, and when it was released it showed that he was -wrong- about a lot of stuff. The same stuff thats still in your main posting.

So you're right so say that it isn't speculations, its just bad info ripped from a bad source.

And you're right about another thing, I can't make the call whether or not something should be sticky'd, I just think that when a thread is filled with bad info it shouldn't be on top of the forums for everyone to read. Thats all.

Also, you saying the plane will take you to the bridge -IS- speculation, you said it yourself when you replied to me last time.

Question, when we fly over to the GG Bridge to get to the PaP machine, are the electric chairs the only way to get off the bridge? Seems kind of a waste if you just PaPed a weapon then you need to kill yourself to get back to the prison, unless you take guns with you into Purgatory, which it doesn't seem like it does.

Scatters wrote From what I understand, Benn posted what he posted two days before the trailer was released, and when it was released it showed that he was -wrong- about a lot of stuff. The same stuff thats still in your main posting.

So you're right so say that it isn't speculations, its just bad info ripped from a bad source.

And you're right about another thing, I can't make the call whether or not something should be sticky'd, I just think that when a thread is filled with bad info it shouldn't be on top of the forums for everyone to read. Thats all.

Also, you saying the plane will take you to the bridge -IS- speculation, you said it yourself when you replied to me last time.

I would love to go to Alcatraz, it would be so sick man!

Scatters wrote From what I understand, Benn posted what he posted two days before the trailer was released, and when it was released it showed that he was -wrong- about a lot of stuff. The same stuff thats still in your main posting.

So you're right so say that it isn't speculations, its just bad info ripped from a bad source.

And you're right about another thing, I can't make the call whether or not something should be sticky'd, I just think that when a thread is filled with bad info it shouldn't be on top of the forums for everyone to read. Thats all.

Also, you saying the plane will take you to the bridge -IS- speculation, you said it yourself when you replied to me last time.

Well then you understand wrong. Benn told us the following in his video (Which I watched multiple times)
-There would be a way off the island to a different area (Obviously the GG Bridge) = Confirmed
-There would be an afterlife mode = Confirmed
-The new perk would behave as a protection from reloading = Confirmed
-The new wonderweapon would behave as a powerful shotgun, and when transformed shoot acid = Confirmed
-The map would take place during the prohibition era (A video which NGTzombies then stole from PTG) = Confirmed
-The Tommy Gun would make an appearance = Confirmed
-There would be a system of different ziplines which could be used to transport (Now confirmed as Gondolas) = Confirmed.

Along with all of that, the video was taken down for Copyright against Activision. So out of that, Benn was 100% correct, and if you're still too simple minded to understand that, read my ENTIRE thread. I don't consider someone who gets direct information from Treyarch themselves to be "bad source". And you keep saying this thread is all bad info. Why? You fail to realize that 80% of this thread is all confirmed information from trailers, and gameplay. The rest of it will be confirmed once the game comes out. Why? Because Benn has never been wrong about any of this information. The other 20% of this thread are my, and the users, theories and speculations, which will not be removed from the thread because one person who can't even provide a valid argument thinks it shouldn't be stickied. That section is for theories and speculations which I and the users feel are going to be in the map. That's why they are labeled under the THEORIES/SPECULATIONS section, not the factual information section. You're just using 20% of my thread to make an argument, which is just dumb.

Why do you keep trying to prove that theory wrong about the plane? It's right, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I don't see what's so hard to understand that it will take you to the bridge. If you actually watched the trailers and gameplays, you'd figure that out easily. That theory about the plane taking you to the bridge was configured by Benn days before it came out; and if you're just going to disreguard a theory because Benn created it, and you're not going to realize this plane takes you to the bridge, you might wanna do some more research pal.
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Wow packed with information, awesome.

John_US wrote

Scatters wrote From what I understand, Benn posted what he posted two days before the trailer was released, and when it was released it showed that he was -wrong- about a lot of stuff. The same stuff thats still in your main posting.

So you're right so say that it isn't speculations, its just bad info ripped from a bad source.

And you're right about another thing, I can't make the call whether or not something should be sticky'd, I just think that when a thread is filled with bad info it shouldn't be on top of the forums for everyone to read. Thats all.

Also, you saying the plane will take you to the bridge -IS- speculation, you said it yourself when you replied to me last time.

Well then you understand wrong. Benn told us the following in his video (Which I watched multiple times)
-There would be a way off the island to a different area (Obviously the GG Bridge) = Confirmed
-There would be an afterlife mode = Confirmed
-The new perk would behave as a protection from reloading = Confirmed
-The new wonderweapon would behave as a powerful shotgun, and when transformed shoot acid = Confirmed
-The map would take place during the prohibition era (A video which NGTzombies then stole from PTG) = Confirmed
-The Tommy Gun would make an appearance = Confirmed
-There would be a system of different ziplines which could be used to transport (Now confirmed as Gondolas) = Confirmed.

Along with all of that, the video was taken down for Copyright against Activision. So out of that, Benn was 100% correct, and if you're still too simple minded to understand that, read my ENTIRE thread. I don't consider someone who gets direct information from Treyarch themselves to be "bad source". And you keep saying this thread is all bad info. Why? You fail to realize that 80% of this thread is all confirmed information from trailers, and gameplay. The rest of it will be confirmed once the game comes out. Why? Because Benn has never been wrong about any of this information. The other 20% of this thread are my, and the users, theories and speculations, which will not be removed from the thread because one person who can't even provide a valid argument thinks it shouldn't be stickied. That section is for theories and speculations which I and the users feel are going to be in the map. That's why they are labeled under the THEORIES/SPECULATIONS section, not the factual information section. You're just using 20% of my thread to make an argument, which is just dumb.

Why do you keep trying to prove that theory wrong about the plane? It's right, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out. I don't see what's so hard to understand that it will take you to the bridge. If you actually watched the trailers and gameplays, you'd figure that out easily. That theory about the plane taking you to the bridge was configured by Benn days before it came out; and if you're just going to disreguard a theory because Benn created it, and you're not going to realize this plane takes you to the bridge, you might wanna do some more research pal.
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Dude, relax. All I'm saying is that a bunch of your stuff (almost all of it) is from Benn WHO DID GET A BUNCH OF STUFF WRONG, which some of it has made its way into your thread. The plane taking you to the bridge has been confirmed after my first post (the trophies making its way online on the PS3.)

Any who, I hope once the map comes out you actually fill the thread with confirmed info, amd hopefully the easter egg steps relatively quick. If I've got anything to add after the map is released, be sure I'll post it.

John_US wrote

I'm not trying to be a troll or flame so please don't take it that way.
I was just wondering where you are getting this confirmed info from? Like purgatory mode...you say that we can access it whenever we want. What evidence shows that? Besides the timer.
Another one that I seen was the warden. I have seen and heard different speculations to this. I've heard that the boss zombie is the warden, which we know its not cuz his badge says guard, and I've seen your theory of the warden. It seems plausible but the badge on his coat looks more like a guard badge and also his clothes are guard clothing. It may just be me but I don't see how you can confirm this. I've seen several videos that differ from this info. That's why I'm asking.
Like to add a theory that I have about the big flaming hellhound. I believe that the dog is either the way to get guns or upgrade items. As you stated there is the orange-red light in the sky. If I remember correctly I didn't see a box light anywhere in the video. Perhaps this dog is the box from hell or the PaP machine from hell. Either way its cool as hell.
Again, I'm not trying to start a flame war or troll. Thanks for taking the time to read and hopefully respond.

Purgatory mode came from PTG, the most reliable source out there, WEEKS before the trailer even came out. The added feature was implemented into the game, when PTG said it would. Also, they confirmed the Warden, they confirmed the Plane, they confirmed the Electric Chairs, they confirmed basically everything they said would be in the map; and it IS in the map. The Symbol for Afterlife/Purgatory mode is shown in the trailer multiple times, in the Up D-Pad slot. When you have claymores in your right D-Pad slot, do you have to wait a certain time to place a claymore? Yes you're right, you probably can't call in Afterlife mode at ANY time you want, but the feature is accessed through the D-Pad mode, which means it can most likely be accessed at any time (Once again, this isn't confirmed, but once the DLC actually releases I'm going to update it to match everything), also the Theories/Speculation section of this thread is ALL prior to the gameplay, the exclusive trailer, and all of that, it was simply speculation on things that were rumored to leak about the map. If you see the first section about the warden (About 1/4 down the post) You'll see I fix things up on that. Also, the box light is shown various times in the trailer, not sure how you missed it, it's shown at the beginning of the exclusive trailer as well. Also, if you see various videos saying different info, you have to understand that the map hasn't even come out yet, and the ONLY sources I use are listed at the bottom of the page (Play the game which has leaked CORRECT information since Ascension). I wouldn't rely on NGTZombies, I personally have nothing against them, I just feel they feed their subscribers information about the story that isn't even there; for example their NDU video. There isn't even a storyline in NDU, which is one of the reasons I never use them as a source.

Thank you for taking the time to explain yourself in depth. I understand more of what you was saying now. As you said the map isn't even out yet but you have done an outstanding job at providing info in depth this much.
As far as NGTzombies, I like their videos and info and not all is correct but I feel it's the best I've found thus far. I also just enjoy following their updates etc.
I will be checking back in as the map is released to get more accurate info as it is released as well. I hope you can update this as quickly as possible cuz I have a feeling this map is going to hold ALOT more than they have released. Thanks again.
Question also. Do you believe that there will be a "end" to this map? Perhaps the plane will give you the option to either go to the GG bridge or leave the island completely to end the game. Of course 3arch has never made a map such like that but there is a first for everything. Just a theory.