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The Winter Classic is now canceled, I am predicting no hockey this season.
A quick video that has brought a tear to my eye.
Lockout news:
48 game season
Season will start on the 18th
Lockout= No season being played either due to financial reasons or disagreement between owners,players and owner of the NHL.
As we all know, most of the team owners are wanting to lockout (not play) next season. The reason for this is; due to the inability of the league owners and its players union, the
NHLPA, to agree on a new collective bargaining agreement.
The league also called for the elimination of salary arbitration, contract limits of five years (with equal money paid each year, essentially eliminating signing bonuses) and 10 years of service before unrestricted free agency kicks in.
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Notable source to look at other lockouts in the past 93-94 season & 04-05 season
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_lockout
Summary of 04-05 lockout
CBA negotiations had begun in October 2003, but by the following August, the two sides had met only four times. Among the issues were higher player fines, the schedule, playoff bonuses, free agency, salary arbitration, and revenue sharing. The owners were demanding a $35 million salary cap and "cost certainty" that gave players a 50 percent share of league revenue. In February, the NHL had unveiled a controversial report by former U.S. Securities and Exchange Commissioner Arthur Levitt, who'd been hired by the league. Called a "super-audit" it declared that players were receiving 76 percent of the league's $1.9 billion revenue while owners had lost $273 million during the 2002-03 season. (NHL revenue wasn't as well tabulated as it is today, but it was probably still over a $1 billion. Meanwhile, the average salary of $730,000 in 1994-95, the year of the previous lockout, had risen to $1.8 million by 2003-04.)
NHLPA boss Bob Goodenow disputed Levitt's findings, issuing a report of his own that claimed $100 million of unreported hockey revenue had been uncovered by the NHLPA's examination of the books kept by four teams. The players offered a five-percent rollback in salaries, a return to 1995 entry-level contracts, and a luxury tax on payrolls topping $50 million to be shared among all teams. Bettman vowed the owners would wait as long as necessary to get what they wanted. Goodenow, who had been warning players to prepare for a lockout that could last as long as two full seasons, said they would not agree to a hard or soft cap. "Bottom line, if they want a hard cap, we'll sit out the rest of our lives," Maple Leafs union rep Bryan McCabe told The Toronto Star.
THEN vs. NOW: Fehr has offered to keep playing beyond the CBA's expiration date, but Bettman insists a lockout will begin that day if no agreement is reached. Though friction, frustration and disappointment seem to be increasing as talks progress, the harsh rhetoric of eight years ago has largely been absent as both sides express a desire to reach a deal. Most meetings have been characterized as cordial and businesslike -- though that could change. Abruptly cancelled bargaining talks after a meeting between Fehr and Bettman on Aug. 22 followed by a mere 90-minute session on the 23rd was cause for concern, especially when Bettman kept citing the "wide gap" between the two sides.
SEPT. '04: LET THE MISERY BEGIN
Closed for business: Detroit's Joe Louis Arena sits empty in October 2004.
Paul Sancya/AP
On Sept. 15, one day after Canada won the World Cup of Hockey, Bettman formally announced a lockout -- the second of his tenure that began in 1993. The NHL's financial model was "broken," he said. The stalemate began in earnest as the calendar turned to October. Philadelphia Flyers owner Ed Snider summed up his colleagues' animosity toward Goodenow by saying, "I might jump over the table and choke him to death. That would not be good. That's why they keep me out of the negotiations."
THEN vs. NOW: While tensions may rise between Fehr and Bettman, it seems doubtful they'll ever come close to the mutual loathing between the league and Goodenow. Also, methods for the accounting of hockey-related revenue are, while not without some controversy, now more transparent and agreeable to both sides.
DECEMBER '04: HERE COME THE GIVEBACKS
It seems hard to believe, but there were no formal negotiations through October and November. By December, players were starting to grumble to Goodenow that he should at least try to get things moving. So the NHLPA made its first formal offer to the league since the summer: a dramatic 24 percent rollback in existing salaries, a 20 percent tax on team payrolls that exceed $45 million, and some concessions on rookie contracts and arbitration. In a press conference, Goodenow called them "significant, significant changes" and optimism ran high among players that a deal would get done in time to salvage part of the season. But after five days of studying the proposal, which Bettman had called "a big time move", the verdict came back: no deal. Without a hard cap of some kind, he said, a CBA couldn't be consummated although he was willing to give players a 54 percent cut of revenue. Goodenow told his ranks that once a hard cap was in place, it would never come off and the dollars would always go down from there.
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From today's standpoint, if the league shuts down for the 2012-2013 season, blame should be on anyone but the players. The players are the proactive ones in this process. They have showed more flexibility to get a deal done and to avoid a lockout.
Collective bargaining :
Collective bargaining is a process of negotiations between employers and a group of employees aimed at reaching agreements that regulate working conditions. The interests of the employees are commonly presented by representatives of a trade union to which the employees belong. The collective agreements reached by these negotiations usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms, and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs.
Soruce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_bargaining
News on the lockout:
The lockout will more then likely be in affect by Gary Bettmen on September 16.
The current CBA {Collective bargaining contract} is set to expire on the 15 of September.
Sept 2nd:
August 23;
meeting between owners, players and bettmen only lasted around 2 hours in Toronto
August 22;
The NHL CBA Talks cancelled.
August 16th:
Some hockey fans are starting to experience that familiar, grave feeling they felt in 2004-2005 when they and the entire NHL endured the lockout.]
Today enforced some of those feelings.
The NHL decided to dismiss the NHL Players Associations initial proposal today, then the NHLPA boss, Donald Fehr, set off to Chicago for pre-scheduled meetings with players.
Fehr will not return to Toronto in attempts to resolve a future CBA until Aug. 22. Fehr did indicated that he and Bettman will be talking by phone during his trip. It still only gives the two sides 24 days to reach a new agreement, find common ground, and avoid another lockout.
To most, that's a grim outlook to the future of the NHL, the current CBA expires on Sept. 15.
When two sides have such different views, less than a month doesn't seem like even close to the amount of time needed to reach an agreement.
However, just on Tuesday the players were responsible to offering fans a more optimistic outlook on possibly getting a deal done.
That's what the players have been responsible for doing throughout this entire process. If anyone has shown they want a deal done, it's the players. Their initial proposal they presented to Gary Bettman and the NHL was not a one sided deal. If anything, it tailored more to the owners than it did to the players.
But, the League shot that down immediately less than 24 hours later.
Sound familiar? The players did that in the 2004-2005 lockout. They gave in to the owners, just to make sure there was a season in 2005-2006. The owners won now, will they again?
All fans can do is wait. Wait nervously to see if their lives will be the same again.
Gary Bettmen's input:
What the issues are and how they get solved and how deep the issues go is something we're not yet on the same page.
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman said a "wide gap" remains in labor talks between the league and the NHL Players' Association
"Our hope is we can take care of business in the next month,"
David Moss
the players are prepared and have discussed all eventualities.
The league are the ones saying that if we don't come to a decision. ... The players are still very optimistic and hopeful that things will get done on time, and we're working in that fashion."
David Fehr:
Players not surprised by NHL lockout threat
the players' offer as one that could stabilize the industry.
"It was interested. It was focused. It was sobered,"[Describing the metting between players and owners and bettmen]
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"I don't think we're going to be playing anytime soon," said the agent. "My best case is Christmas. It looks grim right now. (Commissioner Gary) Bettman is overreaching. He had a chance to get the players believing he wanted a partnership. Instead he wants a return to feudalism."
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I wish all sports leagues would establish a rule where this can't happen. Players get payed too much already to whine and complain about not enough money. It's not always about them, the fans might want to watch them play as well. -__-
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Mazur wrote I wish all sports leagues would establish a rule where this can't happen. Players get payed too much already to whine and complain about not enough money. It's not always about them, the fans might want to watch them play as well. -__-
I see where you're coming from, but in this case it is Bettmen and the owners wanting a lockout. The players have offered a deal to the CBA that was found fair, but was not accepted.
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I really hope there's no lockout. I remember the last lockout that was like 04-05 and I almost killed myself lol.
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Mazur wrote I wish all sports leagues would establish a rule where this can't happen. Players get payed too much already to whine and complain about not enough money. It's not always about them, the fans might want to watch them play as well. -__-
No no no. The players are anything but selfish. in 04' they gave up a hell of a lot just so they'd be able to reach an agreement, now they're being asked to give up even MORE. Hockey players aren't selfish - they could give a rats ass how much they make.
Just gonna put this out there. Gary Bettman is set to make $8m next season regardless of a lockout. NHLPA's Don Fehr is set to make $0 if a lockout occurs.
Bettman could care less about the fans and the players, it's all about the money to wipe his ass with.
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Bettman is a **** face. Honestly. i Came to this section to post about this and already saw this topic. Honestly, I Can't LIVE without hockey... This would blow... i've been following the lockout details for about a month... and no CBA Meetings are scheduled from now til the 15th... the deadline date... it looks like the possibility of a lockout is looming around and looking more realistic
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i hope they dont. that will suck if they do lockout
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Oh lawdy.
Let's just hope the season goes on.
I can't go a full year without watching hockey!
Let's go Red Wings!
Let's just hope the season goes on.
I can't go a full year without watching hockey!
Let's go Red Wings!
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Dang if there isnt a season im going to be pissed
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