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No, if you are paying attention to what i said. SOME of the AK-47's recovered by us and other military forces in Afghanistan had Soviet Union markings on it. Russia is known to support most of our enemies or other countries with weapons. The chemical weapons used in Syria a few months ago were provided by Russia. There was a huge debate over it and we almost invaded
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First of all, the plane was not shot down by Russia, it was shot down by Pro-Russians. There is a difference, and a big one. How do I know this? I don't, I am going by the fact that if Russia shot it down it'd be a much bigger ordeal. Putin is not going to fire a missile on a plane full of civilians, its pointless to do so.

Now your point is Russia has supplied weapons to Pro-Russians? Well why wouldn't they. During the war on terror I am pretty damn sure there were Iraqi's working for the US, who wanted to end the War on Terror as well, correct? They are pro-US, and US supplied them with weapons. Of course Russia is going to supply its allies with weapons, it makes sense to do so.

Next point, you're hating on Russia in general for supplying weapons. Yet you have no room to stand on with that because the US has supplied money and weapons on numerous occasions as has every other military force. (Eg, IranContra affair).

The way you are making this out is that Russia goes around pumping money and weapons into every country in the world trying to start a world war when they are not. Even with the Russia / Ukraine thing going on right now they have no need to shoot that plane down.

You can not blame Russia for something Pro-Russians did REGARDLESS of if they supplied them the weapons or not, that is like giving your child a car and him running someone over in it and you getting the blame, it doesn't work like that.

Russia has no control over the actions of its affiliates (and I use that term loosely) the same way US has no control over the numerous Iraqi and Afganistan people it has to aid in the military. This topic was completely off focus from the start. Stop pointing the finger up in Putins face.
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Boar wrote First of all, the plane was not shot down by Russia, it was shot down by Pro-Russians. There is a difference, and a big one. How do I know this? I don't, I am going by the fact that if Russia shot it down it'd be a much bigger ordeal. Putin is not going to fire a missile on a plane full of civilians, its pointless to do so.

Now your point is Russia has supplied weapons to Pro-Russians? Well why wouldn't they. During the war on terror I am pretty damn sure there were Iraqi's working for the US, who wanted to end the War on Terror as well, correct? They are pro-US, and US supplied them with weapons. Of course Russia is going to supply its allies with weapons, it makes sense to do so.

Next point, you're hating on Russia in general for supplying weapons. Yet you have no room to stand on with that because the US has supplied money and weapons on numerous occasions as has every other military force. (Eg, IranContra affair).

The way you are making this out is that Russia goes around pumping money and weapons into every country in the world trying to start a world war when they are not. Even with the Russia / Ukraine thing going on right now they have no need to shoot that plane down.

You can not blame Russia for something Pro-Russians did REGARDLESS of if they supplied them the weapons or not, that is like giving your child a car and him running someone over in it and you getting the blame, it doesn't work like that.

Russia has no control over the actions of its affiliates (and I use that term loosely) the same way US has no control over the numerous Iraqi and Afganistan people it has to aid in the military. This topic was completely off focus from the start. Stop pointing the finger up in Putins face.

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Miss wrote
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Vancouver_Canucks wrote Was shot down by Pro-Russians, aka Ukrainians in favour of Russia pretty much taking over Ukraine aka rebels.
THANK YOU! And guess who supported them with the weapons? RUSSIA


So you're saying everyone that has gotten killed by an AK-47 should be blamed on Russia? That's basically what you're saying.

And their has been nothing CONFIRMED yet to how the plane went down.

Surprisingly i have to agree with miss. If it was russia they would of claimed it by now. They shot down a korean air flight in the 80s and claimed the take down almost immediately. But this whole situation is because putin wants to "rebuild"
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