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Vegans avoid meat,eggs but proteins are very good for body. They also avoid fish which is rich in calcium and again good for healthy living.

They live on vegetables only

Vegans are stupid or clever if you think this over?

Also what are your thoughts on producs made with extra calc/protiens?

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Okay it depends on the vegan. Lmao because I hate vegan people who shame people for eating meat or shit like that's not going to make me want to change. The only thing I disagree with is all that tofu and fake protein they're making for them haven't been studied or around in along time so for all they know it's loaded in cancer or worse for the body. Also there's mad preservatives in them. I think people can live their life how they want and eat what they want but they gotta chill with monitoring people. Lol I do have to say at restaurants I have tried a couple of vegan stuff because of one my friends and it was bomb but I think if you aren't making up for that missing fuel your starving your body. My biggest thing is if you want to be healthy and eat clean, eat WHOLE food such as veggies, fruits and etc. especially going to farmer markets, farm stands or growing your own stuff is a better alternative but that's just me!
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I'm not vegan by any means but they can still meet their protein goals even without eating meat/fish.

Beans, tofu, lentils, chickpeas, peanut butter, vegan protein powders etc. Though limited options, it can still be done. Same as with getting their vitamins and minerals.

So no they do not live off of just vegetables lol.


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As somebody whose dietary preferences could be described as quasi-vegan (I am not a vegan, but I make some choices a vegan would), I believe the answer to this question applies to any large group consisting of humans. Yes, and no. You cannot simply label an entire subset of people as either stupid of clever. The group consists of a myriad of people with different attitudes, thoughts and degrees of intelligence. Are we questioning 1) the ideology as a whole, or 2) certain attitudes within this subset of people? I'll try to cover both in my answer.

1) The ideology comes with it's issues. The main issue being that the diet works for some people, and not for others. 'Going vegan' generally comes with the necessity for one to become more aware of what they consume in order to get a proper balance of nutrients. There are many ways to acquire protein beyond meat and dairy products (enough of which are listed above by Sus-). If one's protein levels are above standard and they feel healthy most of the time, they have found a good balance in their diet which allows them to consume their food in a way that mostly satisfies their body and settles their moral compass. If this situation were to change, one should experiment with eating other foods and if necessary, meat from reputable, local sources and consume it in moderation. 2) For others, there body does not seem to be able to function as usual without some source of animal protein. In that case, they should find a balance that works for them. I believe the key is to use the ideology as a model and adapt it to your own body and lifestyle. I think this is the biggest problem with veganism. It sets strict rules and boundaries that one must conform to to hold the label of vegan. But these rules are extreme and the blind adherence to them can cause problems to the follower. So to answer your precise question, I think one who puts on blinkers and chases the label could be considered stupid, if the diet doesn't work for their bodies, but this does not apply to the entire group of people.

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Jen wrote The only thing I disagree with is all that tofu and fake protein they're making for them haven't been studied or around in along time so for all they know it's loaded in cancer or worse for the body. Also there's mad preservatives in them.

My biggest thing is if you want to be healthy and eat clean, eat WHOLE food such as veggies, fruits and etc. especially going to farmer markets, farm stands or growing your own stuff is a better alternative but that's just me!


This is a good answer. By the way, tofu is naturally occurring and basically just curled soy bean juice. It's been consumed in Asia for over 2,000 years. But yes, many of these new 'alternatives' are LOADED with preservatives and E numbers. However, some are produced from natural produce. Again, it comes down to ones dietary consciousness and is the same psychological choice that that meat eaters have (in the realm of health). Does one value the food, pay a little bit more and consider it as a luxury, or eat the cheap, unhealthy stuff as a dietary staple? In this sense, these alternatives are ironic. The idea behind veganism is choosing to eat consciously, so if one frequently eats these things, they're actually missing the main point behind the movement.


Why am I writing all of this on a gaming and technology forum?
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isn't being a vegan not health
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Antiglio wrote isn't being a vegan not health


I mean as long as you aren't depriving your body of essential macro/micronutrients it doesn't really matter.
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Vegan is a life style choice

Granted every vegan I've come across makes being vegan apart of their personality. I can get down with it

There's some really good vegan cheese out there and jack fruit is top 3 for catfish fruits but so gud
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Ate Vegan for 2 years with a family member who preferred the diet on their stomach when going through chemo,

If you eat primarily whole foods i.e legumes, whole grains, veggies, fruits, tofu, nuts, you shouldn't have any issue with any sort of nutritional concerns. You can also supplement also anything you may be missing out on, it's not super hard.

No longer vegan as I just prefer to eat more stuff, however coming from eating a pretty normal american diet beforehand I will say that the change of pace and variety was very nice. Jackfruit, Seitan, and Tofu kick ass. Tofu is a great all around option as it's just a blank canvas for whatever you're hungry for. Thai, Korean, Mexican, Italian, it takes almost all seasonings well. I think when most people think of tofu they may imagine a bland soybean mush, which is fair, but also the wrong way to try tofu.

Cons - I hate dairy milk alternatives, I'm lactose intolerant so I tried soy/almond/etc long before ever eating vegan, I never liked them. Especially the vanilla flavored ones, chocolate I can kind of get down with but I rarely drink milk. Never really found many vegan cheeses that I enjoyed either. You're also going to be paying more if you like to regularly eat the meat copies (Beyond burgers and such), but unless you're feeding a family of 4, it's not that bad.

Speaking on the direct copies like beyond burgers, they're not too bad. However I'm maybe of a contrary opinion that "Meatless Ribeye", and so on, stuff is a poor way to approach the diet. If you taste some of this stuff and go looking for 1:1 copies of the flavor profile of the meat it's trying to replace, you'll probably just be disappointed. But as it's own separate thing, they're pretty good. No idea what the lab grown meat I always see in the news but never actually in stores tastes like.

Overall 7.1/10 experience, veggies and substitutes are cool, ignore online dorks. Make sure you season your food. If you boil veggies, you deserve a firing squad. Would recommend just trying it for a few weeks if you just want a change of pace in your diet after having taco tuesday and spaghetti night for 20 years of your life.
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