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So after months of research and planning I think I am ready to start purchasing some of the parts for my first build, but before I do I just wanted to make sure that it is a good configuration. This i what I've got so far:

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I know this is very different to my last post but I think it is probably a lot better that that one. If you notice any problems or improvements to this build please let me know because I want to start ordering ASAP. Also I should mention that this build does have an SSD in it but it is not on the list as I have already purchased it. My budget is flexible but not too much, tops maybe £1460.

Thanks in advance.
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I definitely would not be buying a 9600k. Zen2 has been announced, will launch on July 7th. Single thread performance should now be at least somewhat in line with Intel, so a 6C/12T R5 3600 will cream a 6C/6T 9600k, and cost you less. Plus with an AM4 motherboard, you have the option to swap in up to a 16C/32T SKU when they launch, so definitely a better upgrade path.

It is also worth noting that Navi GPU's should be launching soon also, maybe July 7th with Zen2. We will be seeing more about Navi at E3 though, which is only 2 weeks away. AMD has said they'll announce pricing at E3 and we will likely see some performance estimates, which will obviously have to be taken with a grain of salt since it'll be from AMD themselves. Otherwise, RTX 2060/RTX 2070 will be fine. It just might suck a little if you buy an RTX 2070 and then AMD release an RTX 2070 equivalent for RTX 2060 pricing.


PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime X470-Pro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£144.78 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£72.79 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.99 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card (£329.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterBox NR600 (w/ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case (£69.99 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ AWD-IT)
Monitor: Samsung - LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor (£288.59 @ Senetic)
Keyboard: Corsair - STRAFE RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard (£99.98 @ Scan.co.uk)
Total: £1304.08

The Samsung JG52 is 30 quid cheaper on Amazon, same monitor as the JG50 in the PCPP list;
amazon.co.uk/Samsung-LC27JG52QQUX...amp;sr=1-1
1440p instead of 1080p, I would not be looking at 1080p monitors at all with your budget.

The R5 3600 will probably release at closer to £200 though, so the overall price on PCPP is probably about accurate.

Get an R5 3600+X570 motherboard instead of the 2600x+X470. Up the RTX 2060 to a 2070 if you want, or like I said, consider Navi maybe. You'll still be under £1450 with the R5 3600 and an RTX 2070 if you do decide to do that.

You can swap the Cooler Master NR600 for the NZXT H500 if you want. NZXT have announced the H510 at Computex though, an improved revision of the H500. A lot of other cases at Computex that look decent, so might be worth keeping an eye out for some of those. Phanteks P400A is another good example. Stuff like the H510 and P400A might actually be available to buy soon since they're just a new revision of an existing case, so not a lot of work needing to be done to get them out.
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Wow that's a lot of information to digest, but thanks very much for letting me know about this! I had no idea about Navi and Zen2, I will definitely look more into that. With this I am heavily inclined to just wait for Navi and Zen2 to see if they would be worth getting instead.

Do you know if the monitor has G-Sync or not because I cant seem to find anything on the amazon page, or is that not important?

Also I was under the impression that the 2060 was slightly under powered for 1440p, would the 2070 or an equivalent not be more suited for that?
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At this point, I would for sure just wait for Zen2. I absolutely would not be comfortable investing in Intel and if I had to build a system before July 7th, I'd just grab a cheap Ryzen CPU for now with a decent AM4 motherboard, and then swap in an R5 3600 when they launch.

As for Navi, I'm not too confident in it tbh, but it's only 2 weeks until we get more information, and if you're waiting a month for Zen2 anyway, why not wait and see what Navi brings. Like I said though, keep the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070 in mind, as they could still be your best option.

The RTX 2060 will handle 1440p high refresh rate at optimised settings very well. You won't be hitting 144FPS in more demanding games unless you really drop some settings, but you'll definitely be in the 100FPS range with optimised settings. The RTX 2070 isn't a significant performance increase over the RTX 2060 tbh, the biggest selling point of the 2070 over the 2060 IMO, is the extra 2GB VRAM which could become more useful at 1440p to be fair. I wouldn't personally pay the extra for the RTX 2070, don't think it's worth it, but really it's up to you whether you'd rather save ™150 or squeeze out as much performance as possible with the budget you have.

The Samsung JG50/JG52 does not have any adaptive sync, no. I wouldn't be concerned about getting a G-Sync monitor since NVidia GPU's support Freesync now anyway, so just get a Freesync monitor if anything. Adaptive sync is definitely nice to have, but it's not really a must have IMO. If you do want a monitor with adaptive sync, then there's this;
morecomputers.com/a?pid=CQ32G1%3E...rer=PCPart
70 quid more than the Samsung monitor. You're not gonna be able to squeeze the RTX 2070 in there with your budget if you decide to go for this monitor though. Personally, I'd be more inclined to get the 'better' monitor with Freesync, rather than the RTX 2070 to be fair.
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Thanks 21, you've been a great help! I think I will definitely wait for Zen 2 processors to come out but I will just wait to see what other info about Navi there is before I make any final decisions on that.
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Personally, when it comes to building a new PC I don't think of future proofing at all. I think of being able to give myself a very fair edge and expect to upgrade within 2-4 years. Mind you, this is coming from someone who has a custom water loop, delidded an 8700k and has a 2080 ti included to that water loop of 2 360 radiators. Grains of salt.

PC Part Picker List
CPU:AMD Ryzen 3 1200
Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 2x8GB (16gb total @ 2400MHz)
Storage: ADATA SU800 128GB SSD
ADATA SU800 1TB SSD
Graphics Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 8GB
Case: Thermaltake Core G21
Power Supply Unit: EVGA 850 G+ (850 Watts / 80+ Gold)


Projected Cost: $610.51

There's a lot you can change here and reduce the cost drastically. You can scap either one or both of the SSDs, you can also go for a cheaper case or even power supply and reduce the price by about 200.00. Change out the memory(RAM) and even go single slot stick of 8GB and reduce the cost by another 70.00 or so.

The reason I recommend this though is for giving yourself the ability to actually get some future upgrades and being able to start out playing game very respectively. Hence why I suggest two SSDs, or just either one. Granted if you take the 128GB version you'll be lacking a lot of ability to playing games as you wait to uninstall and reinstall a new one in the case for larger sized games. Reason why I would recommend the 1TB version. This way you can avoid that as well if you wanted to record your games you could very easily and have a good amount of space for it, as well host all that recording software, as well as windows and other things you might want like adobe, Microsoft office applications and so on all on the 128GB and be fine. One major thing I can say though is to never skimp out on your Power Supply Unit (PSU) and that being due to upgrades you may want and for longevity. With the PSU you have listed if you wanted to upgrade to a 2080 Ti and a better Ryzen CPU, like the 2700X you definitely could do that and have the horsepower to back it. The reason also for the 16GB of RAM(Memory) is purely so you also have the ability to run google chrome, discord, and any games you want without thinking of ever having to close something down. The RAM is slow though which does prove for some problems with Ryzen in general as something to note, but 3200MHz and better does come with a cost and not for that much more performance gain even with the more speed eating Ryzen chips. Motherboard offers plenty of future changes, and the case is simple and easy to work with. Could easily go for something cheaper, but you'll very likely end up looking at something gawdy and something a preteen would gush over.

As 21 put it though, I don't think even I could make a system better than that though. I'm looking at your future and trying to put you in a good spot, but sadly that comes at a cost. You might not be able to save for this build for whatever reason, life happens. But his definitely is very good.

Finally put, check out BitWit, JayzTwoCentz, TechSyndicate, TechTomorrow, LinusTechTips, there's plenty of good videos these guys post, especially with LinusTechTips and JayzTwoCentz for brand new never even new what RAM was called PC builders.
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